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I know but there are plenty of discussions about this stating that you don’t gain in modeling quality. Just the sample rate is changed. I have no idea personally and maybe I am wrong.
The best is to activate it and see if the CPU is loaded 4 times more than with the 44,1kHz frequency (which should be logical on one hand… and unwanted on the other hand because you would lose polyphony).
If you can forgive the rustiness and the midi from the Jammy combined with the missed notes, I love the sound.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1DjKeThSuZ8Q_GWzscd4rK5pV7d7h5WTS/view?usp=drivesdk
yep, you are wrong. its quite simple. the pro version can run at 192khz internal sample rate as stated by the company. It does depends on your audio device specs also.
Got you!
At least for me, the tweaking parameters are exposed in AUM, so yes you could automate these. Maybe you could also tweak them and save them as an AUM internal preset that would override the limitations of only having Stage. Haven’t tried yet and also not sure whether these exposed parameters would not be there if you’re only on Stage. Doubt it.
Also - great that they did the right thing and organized the exposed parameters into submenus. Nothing more annoying than an exposed parameter list with hundreds of parameters that aren’t grouped logically - though less of an issue than it used to be, in AUM at least, with the ability to tap onscreen to choose a parameter to automate.
I was super excited until I saw that that it's not really iOS pricing. Looks like a case of a desktop company trying to stretch the fabric of the iOS historical structure into a desktop-ish model. I'd just as soon buy the desktop version.
Yeah - I guess desktop owners are very glad they went this way, but it certainly will stop some iOS only users buying.
You're right, it's not really iOS pricing. But look a little closer: if you buy desktop version you get iOS included with it. And vice versa.
I would be surprised if you have AUv3 access to parameters other than those of the version you're running (or demoing).
Nobody really complained about this as I remember, tho there were some gasps. If you’re a Hammond lover it’s a bargain.
I have sympathy for folks with no money. I’ve spent yrs that way. It requires acceptance and workarounds. I doubt everyone will Jack up their prices. We, who slaver over the possibility of a better piano, are happy to see PianoTeq finally on iOS. For me, the velocity layers are critical… if it works.
The 15k Novus 10s I’m getting has velocity limitations with its Shigeru SK sample. But ikm after the real grand action it has. Pianoteq might give me that ability to play ppp in style.
As to rich people buying stuff they can’t or don't know how to use… that’s what rich people do… as in Porsche or Ferrari.
I wouldn’t be surprised, tbh - with the SWAM packs, all the ‘locked’ features’ parameters are exposed, despite the fact that they are still locked in the app and the promised IAPs to unlock them in the app have so far never materialized and probably never will.
Oh, that's nice!
Yes, that IK Hammond came to mind immediately. Probably one of the earliest examples of trying to introduce desktop pricing on iOS.
But through bundles/sales/group buys/whatever, I was able to get the desktop IK Hammond and much more for the same kind of money. Either way, it is definitely one of the best sounding Hammond emulations ever.
So what’s with the $29 upgrade (from Pianoteq Lite) and seems like nothing has changed… Everything is still in demo…..
🎹 I've had Pianoteq on my desktop since version 6. So it's great now to have it on the iPad without having to pay anything extra. I was also glad to see that it updated to my Standard version and easily downloaded the models I had bought as well as the historical instruments. With the Standard you can morph instruments and also there is the random dice which can create some very unusual…keyboards?…mallets?…hard to classify some sounds. And now with parameters exposed in AUM, that should be interesting! 🎹
Sorry if I gave the impression to deny what Modartt themself is stating. You are right saying (as Modartt does) that the Pro version can run at 192kHz internal sample rate. That's a fact. End of the story and apologizes.
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My concern was about to know if the mathematical equations are applied at a 4x times resolution with the Pro version.
It appears to be the case and one can expect to have a significant CPU increase at this rate (so I guess you noticed it
That said, I think 192kHz is really for pro users who want to master an entire project at 192kHz. So not for live playing but for rendering and keep a native 192 kHz resolution in all tracks. If this is the reason to buy the pro version, then it's perfectly fine. But if people are mainly expecting to have a better sonic experience at 192kHz while playing live, I think they should totally reconsider the question to buy the pro version for that (appart from the many other per-note settings you can tweak). Piano sound is mostly limited to 15kHz and processing at 192kHz will not generate any additional overtones.
I think this is fine to have a company keep the same price structure on iOS. There will always be less expensive options for consumption. It will be good to get more adoption for pro Audio on iPad. I just did a test and posted a song that was completely done in Demo mode (only had to adjust one chord Ab(2) G#(2) and play Ab(1) alone otherwise everything played fine. I think the Demo mode is quite generous. With most of the stuff i do, i would record the piano anyway. This makes the software highly usable if you don't wish to buy it. I get it $899 for a complete package is up there but, there is alot to be said for working with what you have and Demo mode ain't bad folks.
Also, I did see that Modartt tends to have a 20% off sale in August (summer) so that may help a little too. Check out their Forum!
Really enjoying this Piano...it is delivering what I have been missing all these years...wish I had known about it sooner on Desktop:
Smooth relaxing and really awesome!
So, like most here, I think Pianoteq sounds amazing and agree that the demo mode actually allows a lot of use in the real world for those of us for whom a license is way out of our price range. Apologies if this is a stupid question, but am I right in thinking though that legally we’re not allowed to use the demo version sounds in our music? I’ve looked on the Modartt website but can’t find any clarification other than it says the trial versions are for evaluation (which, admittedly, presumably means just that: it’s not allowed).
Fair enough sir 😊. Yep, it eats up more CPU. I run at 96khz through my set up. Never tried 192khz.
As to if it's worth the upgrade is a more subjective decision and if you can personally hear any difference. I assume most people will not hear any difference and many can argue on the physics of how the ear cannot hear such differences.
I can’t get over the responsiveness, the feel of how I’m playing comes out exactly how I expect it compared to sampled stuff where a lot of times it does something I don’t want it to do. That clavinet is the absolute funk, I love it.
So, I couldn’t Resist to buy Pianoteq 8!
Pricey, yeah, worth the money? YES YES YES!
Went for Stage and Steinway Model D and Petrof…
And, yes, Pianoteq 8 have set a new level of sound quality on iPad - it’s a real joy to use!
The clavinet is really cool. I love the clavichord more though! I'm uploading a little vid of tweaking its parameters as we speak. That thing is golden! A gorgeous instrument, similar to a harpsichord, but with velocity, but so quiet that it was almost never used for performance back in the day. Now though, we can crank the physically modeled version as loud as we like!
I’m hoping for the same. If you can tweak them all it would make it infinitely more appealing to me.
YES 🙌🏻 super exciting. Definitely gonna be saving up for this one now. Thanks Gav!
So to clarify, upgrading to standard gives you access to all physical modeling parameters for all instruments?
Wait so you can automate parameters in the demo mode without the license using AUM?
So many different answers is getting me confused 😂
Demo sounds wonderful. The last Pianoteq version I heard was 4 or 5 on a very slow laptop and I wasn’t that impressed to be honest. But this one sounds SO MUCH better. If I could afford a license I’d get this in a New York minute. I can’t wait to hear what @LinearLineman’s golden hands can do with this, if he gets it.