Loopy Pro: Create music, your way.
What is Loopy Pro? — Loopy Pro is a powerful, flexible, and intuitive live looper, sampler, clip launcher and DAW for iPhone and iPad. At its core, it allows you to record and layer sounds in real-time to create complex musical arrangements. But it doesn’t stop there—Loopy Pro offers advanced tools to customize your workflow, build dynamic performance setups, and create a seamless connection between instruments, effects, and external gear.
Use it for live looping, sequencing, arranging, mixing, and much more. Whether you're a live performer, a producer, or just experimenting with sound, Loopy Pro helps you take control of your creative process.
Download on the App StoreLoopy Pro is your all-in-one musical toolkit. Try it for free today.
Comments
“Desktop Johnnies” - love it!!!
Big Tobey is what we used to call him back in the day. BT.
Desktop Johnnies 😂 so good.
If it's the same as Logic on macOS then it'll be pretty badly gimped. Two things that will be causing me pain are the fact you can't have more than two input busses into an AU (main audio in and sidechain), and that you can't use the MIDI output from an AU.
The first makes reimplementing one of my AU's a real pain and the result will be very complex to use, and the second completely kills another AU.
This brings up a good point though. Maybe Logic Pro on iOS will expose Apple to the mess that other host developers face supporting AUv3 plugins. Being a free app, one could excuse GarageBand's lackluster AUv3 support, sort of.
With Logic Pro as subscription based, maybe Apple will be motivated to make Logic Pro the reference implementation GarageBand should have been in the first place. Maybe they'll begin to give better support to developers trying to navigate the current vague specs and crappy documentation.
Apple is never going to resort to the many workarounds some host developers have had to include to support sub-optimal AUv3 implementations. So now maybe they'll provide clearer guidance for plugin developers and/or improve their libraries, specifications, and standards.
I'm afraid that it all turns against plugin devs, they will be blamed for plugin problems, especially by desktop users coming on iOS - those users will refuse to accept it may be Logic fault and fault of Apple's own sloppy AUv3 standard ... hope i am wrong here but ... i feel like just more problems is comming for plugins devs to tune their plugins and make workarounds to work properly in another host app ...
again - hope i am wrong.. but after years i become very skeptic when it comes to anything Apple related, especially Tim Cook's Apple - company which has zero in common with Steve Job's Apple. Can't help myself.
Don't have too much hope... I see better AUv2 implementation in other hosts
I've generally had fairly good luck with AUv3 plugins with GarageBand iOS. I imagine developers have not had it so easy though.
I'm going to assume with the redesign of Logic Pro for iPadOS the desktop version will soon adopt many elements of the new UI design language. IMO, it should lead to improvements.
I think she will be one of them.
Nearly all of her observations seem right on. I think if Logic Pro on iPad will see some of the same limitations at launch as Final Cut Pro, no external drive support for the app will be available. But that's just speculation.
You know when I started using an iPad again I had been using a desktop recording environment for 30 years give or take. I really expected nothing to be available. It was the opposite. I thought it would be more of a toy, a second rate option, a curiosity with some interesting musical gadgets and a minority of bread and butter style tools. I'm glad to say I was pleasantly surprised.
I really can't imagine going from a desktop environment to a tablet and expecting to have all your desktop tools.
yes this is one of those i ran into which led me to create this thread .. i replied to her video with long reply where i tried to educate her and explain her what is whole situation - i hope she read it , do a bit of ownnreserch and make another video to explain reality to their followers
edit: lol she deleted my long elaborate post where i explained some details and differences on ios platform in terms of plugins and ecosystem of audio apps 🤣
That’s what I’ve been thinking. I think this could be a turning point, or at least a strong uptick in iOS music. Whether you buy LP or not it will affect the entire market, adjacent markets, and in mostly all positive ways. A ripple effect that benefits iOS music both directly (the actual app) and indirectly. Indirectly more people taking it more seriously, more ports from desktop, more developers, more users, more respect, more coverage, better quality applications, better devices, more external gear, heck iOS musicians might even carry more weight when apple makes device decisions (86 the audio Jack=mistake)
Earlier I said in mostly positive because of eventual price increase, but even that could be argued as a positive, since it creates a more sustainable financial plan for developers.
Ultimately I think it’s really going to help the growth of iOS music, the market, and user experience it’s a major step in the right direction.
When you purchase plugins outside of the AppStore you often get access to several different plugin formats often on Windows and Mac, sometimes even Linux, having to deliver the installation of AUv3s through the AppStore makes this format of delivery problematic.
I went a bit to Toby last night. Feeling sketchy this morning.
How dare you educate this music "professional".
Well, that has happened to me in the past on her channel as well so...
...I no longer subscribe to any 'influencer sell outs' who do paid promos for total crap like unison audio which equals ZERO credibility in my book
People like that are bound to miss the point. They have an established workflow and they simply can't imagine why anyone would be doing something different. She is not going to see the point of Logic for iPad because it doesn't fit with the way she works, so she is bound to be critical, even though she is missing the obvious point of what works for her might not work for others.
I also guarantee that there will be a whiff of elitism in some of the inevitable criticisms that are made once Logic is out. Like, "why would a professional use an iPad?" type questions. People will claim it's a toy etc...
Over time though, as more people dive into the ecosystem, attitudes will soften as users see the benefits of working on the touchscreen, but expect some initial resistance.
Yup definitely...
Also noticed one interesting thing - some people often complain about limitations of iPad apps and how they need to stay on desktop but then you listen their music made on desktop or you see their projects in videos they share and it's literally few tracks, few plugins, some audio cut here and there, few FX plugins here and there and that's it - nothing advanced or complicated like Hans Zimmerish sountrack to holywood blockbuster - usually super simple often repetitive suff which can be easily done on iPad for years even with all it's limitations
))
Im very curious how this unfolds in next year or so .. what will be benefits, drawdonws and what stay neutral.. i would say that
In general - no explosion of new music from existing iOS users and NO significant improvement in sales of iOS plugins because of inflow of new users from desktop.
I may be also completely wrong, and it starts revolution ... I will revisit this post year or two from now to see if my prediction was good or completely out of reality.
Again. Reason why i write this is not hate agains Loginc (i really love Logic on desktop, my most favourite desktop DAW of all time), but simply i enjoy making predictions and trying to guess where future of tech will go.
Hahaha, jesus 😂
@dendy I wouldn't expect a revolution, but I do think the iOS market will grow as a result of this. More users will come over, more developers will port their plugins, IMO that's just inevitable. The iPad won't replace desktop, but it will be seen as a credible alternative.
Ha! This thread is conjuring up images of hipsters grabbing their iPads and downloading Logic ... then standing there flipping it over and over thinking, "Wait, where do I plug my headphones in?" Then a lightbulb going on over their head, only to be replaced a few moments later by big red question marks and exclamation points as they try to figure out how to get around the latency of their AirPods.
I'm already coaching myself not to let my smugness show when they show up here.
Urghh, does she do that? Nasty! > @Poppadocrock said:
I hope so!
One thing that I have mixed feelings about - I will not be at all surprised if Apple tries to get people to buy M1 or M2 pros now, but then a year or two from now reintroduce the headphone jack and tempts people to buy again via that! Would be such a cynical move. They've already been planning and working on this Logic release since before the M1 and M2 Pros came out.
Hopefully people like Ben Jordan, Hainbach and Venus Theory who all know something at least about ios music making will make vids showing them using some cool ios only apps within logic on an ipad and educate their followers about alternative apps like aum. Not sure if VT uses or knows about aum but the other two do. I somehow doubt that Andrew Huang will be educating the masses about auv3 unless Flip miraculously gets the auv3 treatment.
Stay tuned for Airpods MAX-est ZL
As a user I don’t need any external validation from any substantial growth of the iPad ecosystem. If I were to be the only one in the world subscribing to Logic on iPad (highly unlikely)…so be it.
Fabfilter, Pianoteq and Eventide Blackhole are already available and they would solve 99.9 percent of any 3rd party plugin desires that I could imagine really wanting.
So framing success based on some watershed moment for iPad …meh
I would like to see ios devs able to sell more plugins and make more money. Whether this actually happens or not only time will tell
Also stand by for the pros all cursing the fact there's no way to install the necessary drivers to get the best performance from / access all the features of high level audio interfaces.
Logic on the iPad will be OK if you do everything "in the box" and don't use huge sample libraries, but that's about all.
They will sell less plugins for sure to LP iOS users. Except Bram and AudioThing who should sell more as they bring something else than just effects or another synth. After Hilda no more synth for me get all I need.
Will stay the guy that have a psychological syndrom call GAS.
For Influencers too a big change : @Gavinski you will have a more critical view of plugins only perhaps 10 will stay useful, people will want tutorials beginners and indeed more tutorials about LP iOS it will be your future the same for Patrick on Garage Band Guide , he will to go à Logic Band Guide now. @Gavinski is it realistic what I say ?
That would require a massive marketing effort of existing apps and considering it's near impossible to do a good search on the AppStore to find new and interesting apps it's a tricky situation.
I do have my personal favorites which I tend to recommend when asked for, they are not necessarily the 'best' or 'newest' toys out there but stuff I really enjoy using on an almost a daily basis. (OB-Xd is one I reach for very often for 'dry' synth sounds).
Even though I have Logic on the desktop I will tackle the iPad version of Logic as a separate product and considering I really love to 'touch things' I would not be surprised at all if I end up preferring the iPad version over the Mac version for my use-cases...
Having everything needed to make good music is a situation that many of us experienced years ago. If Logic were everything one needed, and that was the only consideration, then those of us who've been Logic users since emagic days would never have bought 3rd-party software.
There're other reasons to look further afield than Logic's own arsenal, with workflow preference being high up on the list. For me, and many others, channel-strips are often a preference. Not only do they take up less screen real-estate, but a one-window workflow when dealing with many tracks allows for much easier identification and organisation, taking up less mental energy to keep on top of (It helps that Logic's plugin-management updates the plugin with settings that correspond to each newly selected track. It's a real one-window, console-type experience). On top of that, a focused set of tools can allow users to mix quickly, avoiding getting stuck in the weeds of tons of settings and having to juggle multiple windows.
Also, despite Logic's great instruments and FX, there're always going to be 3rd-party apps that either do something that doesn't exist in logic, or do it differently. Just because LP's 'Tape Delay' is a cracking delay (And it really is), it doesn't do what ODC, T3, Sandman Pro, EC300, Permut8 or Backmask can do.
The only current unknown is how LP will deal with disparity between plugins between desktop and mobile. While it will of course be possible to freeze/bounce-in-place, this could (depending on amount of tracks) not only be a bit of a workflow slog, but also add significantly to project size. This might be the biggest determinant of how closely users (Specifically those who own LP on desktop also) will stick to stock plugins.