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  • jacoujacou

    Haha yes I screwed up the title. Maybe intentional who knows..

    Well I’m surprised about the result so far. In other threads you can get the impression that the majority was in support for the subscription plan. But in reality - as it is so often - the loudest voices quiet down the rest.

    To me the poll is a strong sign against the subscription plan as the suggested upfront price of 200€/$/£ is way steep compared to other iPad music making apps. Plus people don’t really know Logic for iPad and it’s quality yet.
    But still the majority of people would rather pay these 200 instead of the very cheap subscription plan.

    Quite a strong signal against the sub plan.

  • GavinskiGavinski
    edited May 2023

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @NeuM said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @dendy said:
    47 votes is not much representative sample of wider user base but still i am pretty suprised it's just slightly more for "pay upfront" - expected it will be much more .. like 80% for upfront payment ..

    maybe it was not that bad choice from apple at all, in long term (few years) they will definitely earn much more from subscriptions than from direct payment, so even if subscription users base will be slightly smaller than would be base of upfront payers, it is still worth for them ..

    I actually went for subscription in the end based on 3 facts - we don't know enough about it, I'm unsure whether I will be bothered to learn it, or whether even if I do I'll really like the workflow enough to switch from aum.

    I'll put it like this mate. From what I gathered, if you like Garageband, you'll love Logic Pro. According to @NeuM it's an easy transition. I'm finally getting along with Garageband after all these years. My first test...

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/d3dx1xhkumiusjm/garageband first attempt.m4a?dl=0

    If Garageband is even a fraction of what Logic Pro is like, and the fact that Apple said we can seamlessly open iOS Garageband files in Logic Pro on iPad, I think I finally found the DAW that's perfect for me. Ymmv.

    Garageband's advantage is I can begin an idea in it on my iPhone, it automatically syncs to iCloud, and I can open on iPad to further the idea, and then open again on iPhone to further the idea...you get the idea. 😂🤣

    That said, nothing tops AUM for live jamming, especially of the experimental nature as I'm inclined to do. So Logic Pro will NOT replace AUM for live Ambient jams.

    You're right. Neither GarageBand, nor Logic Pro are meant to replace AUM, which is a real "live" musician's tool. And as of today, Apple has no announcements regarding MainStage coming to iOS. So I think AUM has a safe niche for now. ;)

    Well even if MainStage did come to iOS, I think I will stick with AUM as my main live performance environment. It's insanely wonderful and flexible for what it does. :) (Strange off-topic question, but where has @iOSTRAKON been these days? I hope he's well. He's one of the reasons that after I began producing live Ambient in Koala a year ago, I then switched over to AUM when I remembered his awesome Youtube videos.)

    @iOSTRAKON has been completely awol for a good half year at least. Worrying.

  • SimonSimon
    edited May 2023

    @Gavinski said:

    => @iOSTRAKON has been completely awol for a good half year at least. Worrying.

    Also, what about @white and all of his "app announcements". He was always first to post about a new, just-released app.

  • studs1966studs1966

    Even if they asked 199 buckaroos for iOS, same as there Mac's ?.. They could make it a rent to buy option?.. Like some software companies are doing now?.. So it could be like a mini subscription of sorts?... If you get a bit short in money, you could stop it until your back on your feet, then continue the rent to buy?.. So when you paid over the time 199?.. its yours for keeps?. Maybe do what Steinberg does with there Cubase?.. maintenance updates are free, but a major updates, you could pay for with a small charge?.. or pay for add-ons?..

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    @studs1966 said:
    Even if they asked 199 buckaroos for iOS, same as there Mac's ?.. They could make it a rent to buy option?.. Like some software companies are doing now?.. So it could be like a mini subscription of sorts?... If you get a bit short in money, you could stop it until your back on your feet, then continue the rent to buy?.. So when you paid over the time 199?.. its yours for keeps?. Maybe do what Steinberg does with there Cubase?.. maintenance updates are free, but a major updates, you could pay for with a small charge?.. or pay for add-ons?..

    The usual pro Daw pro model is that you pay for major upgrade, you got usually a Pro version , a Suite or Producer one and you pay also to go from basic package to the highend package ( and if you want to buy a VST done by the same company. ) it is only Buy and not really IAP .

    For LP did only a low price for a complete Daw comparable to the most expensive software pack of competitors and you don’t paid upgrade. Very good deal.

    Steinberg for ios play on a mix between major upgrade and IAP for Cubasis but it is very cheap even IAP are cheap are they are Pro ones including the waves bundle for Cubasis only at 10 usd.

  • wimwim
    edited May 2023

    @studs1966 said:
    Even if they asked 199 buckaroos for iOS, same as there Mac's ?.. They could make it a rent to buy option?.. Like some software companies are doing now?.. So it could be like a mini subscription of sorts?... If you get a bit short in money, you could stop it until your back on your feet, then continue the rent to buy?.. So when you paid over the time 199?.. its yours for keeps?. Maybe do what Steinberg does with there Cubase?.. maintenance updates are free, but a major updates, you could pay for with a small charge?.. or pay for add-ons?..

    They'd have to overhaul the App Store to do a rent to buy scheme since there's no mechanism to do that. It would be bad optics for them to make such a change so close to release since it would be obvious that they were doing it to serve themselves. They have a developer community they need to keep happy, and are pushing it as it is by effectively going into direct competition with many of them with this move. They can't appear to be changing the playing field just to give themselves an advantage.

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    @wim said:

    @studs1966 said:
    Even if they asked 199 buckaroos for iOS, same as there Mac's ?.. They could make it a rent to buy option?.. Like some software companies are doing now?.. So it could be like a mini subscription of sorts?... If you get a bit short in money, you could stop it until your back on your feet, then continue the rent to buy?.. So when you paid over the time 199?.. its yours for keeps?. Maybe do what Steinberg does with there Cubase?.. maintenance updates are free, but a major updates, you could pay for with a small charge?.. or pay for add-ons?..

    They'd have to overhaul the App Store to do a rent to buy scheme since there's no mechanism to do that. It would be bad optics for them to make such a change so close to release since it would be obvious that they were doing it to serve themselves. They have a developer community they need to keep happy, and are pushing it as it is by effectively going into direct competition with many of them with this move. They can't appear to be changing the playing field just to give themselves an advantage.

    They can use the normal Apple Store where you buy software, harware and you can subscribe to Apple TV….

  • jacoujacou

    @wim said:

    @studs1966 said:
    Even if they asked 199 buckaroos for iOS, same as there Mac's ?.. They could make it a rent to buy option?.. Like some software companies are doing now?.. So it could be like a mini subscription of sorts?... If you get a bit short in money, you could stop it until your back on your feet, then continue the rent to buy?.. So when you paid over the time 199?.. its yours for keeps?. Maybe do what Steinberg does with there Cubase?.. maintenance updates are free, but a major updates, you could pay for with a small charge?.. or pay for add-ons?..

    They'd have to overhaul the App Store to do a rent to buy scheme since there's no mechanism to do that. It would be bad optics for them to make such a change so close to release since it would be obvious that they were doing it to serve themselves. They have a developer community they need to keep happy, and are pushing it as it is by effectively going into direct competition with many of them with this move. They can't appear to be changing the playing field just to give themselves an advantage.

    I can only echo @jakoB_haQ and suggest the Loopy Pro payment method. Probably the best way to get around the App Store restrictions.

  • wimwim
    edited May 2023

    @BerlinFx said:

    @wim said:

    @studs1966 said:
    Even if they asked 199 buckaroos for iOS, same as there Mac's ?.. They could make it a rent to buy option?.. Like some software companies are doing now?.. So it could be like a mini subscription of sorts?... If you get a bit short in money, you could stop it until your back on your feet, then continue the rent to buy?.. So when you paid over the time 199?.. its yours for keeps?. Maybe do what Steinberg does with there Cubase?.. maintenance updates are free, but a major updates, you could pay for with a small charge?.. or pay for add-ons?..

    They'd have to overhaul the App Store to do a rent to buy scheme since there's no mechanism to do that. It would be bad optics for them to make such a change so close to release since it would be obvious that they were doing it to serve themselves. They have a developer community they need to keep happy, and are pushing it as it is by effectively going into direct competition with many of them with this move. They can't appear to be changing the playing field just to give themselves an advantage.

    They can use the normal Apple Store where you buy software, harware and you can subscribe to Apple TV….

    Not currently. The only way to load anything on to an iOS device is through a purchase directly on the App Store on iOS.

    [edit] there is one recent entry that seems to have bypassed this restriction on payment methods. If it doesn't get shut down then maybe there's an exception.

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  • day_empireday_empire
    edited May 2023

    I will stick with my desktop version thank you very much. I am not a fan of iPad DAWs. Touch instruments, yes. AUM yes. Reading posts here, it seems a lot of folks like AUM over the DAWs

  • HotStrangeHotStrange

    For me, I don’t LIKE the subscription options but I see why it’s the case and it gives a lot of people more access to it right away plus a free month to try if they like it. I’d rather the Loopy Pro model but I’m settling for this. Maybe that’s why the answers are skewed. Most people don’t like it but are accepting it.

  • Telstar5Telstar5

    Too glad to pay the $5 if it means we’ll get more updates , instruments and developments . I see this as life changing for some of us, especially those of us who don’t own a PC or Mac .

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]
    edited May 2023

    Dudes I did told NeuM “Apple should take note of Michaels Loopy pro subscription model” like a week ago in the main thread. I also suggested a try to buy, which was also overlooked , so no, whoever Jacob is , he got it after me…ask NeuM who told me apple knows what their doing, which 6+ out of 10 prefer buying it

    Funny thing though, at this point; I don’t care even if it’s sub , I just want to try it. If it’s better than CB3+ BM3 then I’m sold; if it’s just an easier and simpler workflow then ehh enjoy l’chaim

    I just hope they don’t screw with desktop logic 10.7 and they allow backward compatibility between the two environments (like iPad Logic Pro “11” can be sent to logic Pro desktop 10.7)

  • NeuMNeuM

    @fearandloathing said:
    Dudes I did told NeuM “Apple should take note of Michaels Loopy pro subscription model” like a week ago in the main thread. I also suggested a try to buy, which was also overlooked , so no, whoever Jacob is , he got it after me…ask NeuM who told me apple knows what their doing, which 6+ out of 10 prefer buying it

    Funny thing though, at this point; I don’t care even if it’s sub , I just want to try it. If it’s better than CB3+ BM3 then I’m sold; if it’s just an easier and simpler workflow then ehh enjoy l’chaim

    I just hope they don’t screw with desktop logic 10.7 and they allow backward compatibility between the two environments (like iPad Logic Pro “11” can be sent to iPad Pro desktop 10.7)

    Considering Logic Pro on iOS hasn't even been released yet, it's still way too early to make any definitive statements about what it is or isn't. It's getting closer to release day, so let's continue to make our guesses, but try to keep an open mind about this thing.

  • AileromAilerom

    Is it possible that anyone would actually take the time to visit this forum to see what musicians think? I can't see it happening really.

  • HotStrangeHotStrange

    @Telstar5 said:
    Too glad to pay the $5 if it means we’ll get more updates , instruments and developments . I see this as life changing for some of us, especially those of us who don’t own a PC or Mac .

    🙋🏻‍♂️ that’s me, and I don’t plan on getting one so I’m stoked for this.

  • SamuSamu

    Somhow my gut is telling me I'll be preferring the iPad version of Logic over the Mac version simply because I just love to touch things :sunglasses:

    During the trial I'll be doing the same thing in parallel on both devices, I can't use the pen on the monitor and drawing automation with a mouse is a bit like wtf as I mostly just set points and adjust the curve between the points.

    On top of the my M1 iPad Pro beats the living crap out of my Intel Mac mini when it comes to pure performance.

    I will treat both as 'individual devices' with the option to maybe transfer projects between them.

    8 days to go...

  • ErrkaPettiErrkaPetti

    @day_empire said:
    I will stick with my desktop version thank you very much. I am not a fan of iPad DAWs. Touch instruments, yes. AUM yes. Reading posts here, it seems a lot of folks like AUM over the DAWs

    AUM is fantastic and really awesome piece of software, but, it ain’t a DAW, it doesn’t replace a real DAW…

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    @ErrkaPetti said:

    @day_empire said:
    I will stick with my desktop version thank you very much. I am not a fan of iPad DAWs. Touch instruments, yes. AUM yes. Reading posts here, it seems a lot of folks like AUM over the DAWs

    AUM is fantastic and really awesome piece of software, but, it ain’t a DAW, it doesn’t replace a real DAW…

    Totally agree many guys here call as Daws AUM and Drambo but they are not Daws at all , it is important to use the right words.

  • jacoujacou

    @Samu said:
    Somhow my gut is telling me I'll be preferring the iPad version of Logic over the Mac version simply because I just love to touch things :sunglasses:

    During the trial I'll be doing the same thing in parallel on both devices, I can't use the pen on the monitor and drawing automation with a mouse is a bit like wtf as I mostly just set points and adjust the curve between the points.

    On top of the my M1 iPad Pro beats the living crap out of my Intel Mac mini when it comes to pure performance.

    I will treat both as 'individual devices' with the option to maybe transfer projects between them.

    8 days to go...

    Yes I also know already that I’ll be fascinated by Logic for iPad 🤤 no matter how limiyed it is compared to Logic on Mac. It is already clear that it’s 100 times better than Garageband.

    I’m very excited :)

  • R_2R_2
    edited May 2023

    @Samu said:
    Somhow my gut is telling me I'll be preferring the iPad version of Logic over the Mac version simply because I just love to touch things :sunglasses:

    Definitely, with the recent additions (Beat Breaker, etc) being designed with (multi) touch interface in mind. It should be a great/better experience on iPad. I really hope they’ve done it right 🤞

  • GeoTonyGeoTony

    I know I’m going to get shot down on this and I’m happy to accept I’m wrong but I’ve just googled about 10 definitions of a DAW and AUM seems to me to fit the high level definition of a DAW which is something like…

    ‘A digital audio workstation (DAW) is an electronic device or application software used for recording, editing and producing audio files. DAWs come in a wide variety of configurations from a single software program on a laptop, to an integrated stand-alone unit, all the way to a highly complex configuration of numerous components controlled by a central computer. Regardless of configuration, modern DAWs have a central interface that allows the user to alter and mix multiple recordings and tracks into a final produced piece.’

    All of my work, approaching 300 tracks has been done, start to finish, using AUM on an iPad.

    I accept it may lack some features such as a time line and full automation but these are aspects of a specific subset of DAWs rather than the superset. 😊

  • GavinskiGavinski

    @GeoTony said:
    I know I’m going to get shot down on this and I’m happy to accept I’m wrong but I’ve just googled about 10 definitions of a DAW and AUM seems to me to fit the high level definition of a DAW which is something like…

    ‘A digital audio workstation (DAW) is an electronic device or application software used for recording, editing and producing audio files. DAWs come in a wide variety of configurations from a single software program on a laptop, to an integrated stand-alone unit, all the way to a highly complex configuration of numerous components controlled by a central computer. Regardless of configuration, modern DAWs have a central interface that allows the user to alter and mix multiple recordings and tracks into a final produced piece.’

    All of my work, approaching 300 tracks has been done, start to finish, using AUM on an iPad.

    I accept it may lack some features such as a time line and full automation but these are aspects of a specific subset of DAWs rather than the superset. 😊

    Ha - funny that we both wrote basically the same thing completely independently in different threads at almost exactly the same time. Yes - fully agree!

  • GeoTonyGeoTony

    Great minds etc etc @Gavinski 👍

  • jwmmakerofmusicjwmmakerofmusic

    @HotStrange said:

    @Telstar5 said:
    Too glad to pay the $5 if it means we’ll get more updates , instruments and developments . I see this as life changing for some of us, especially those of us who don’t own a PC or Mac .

    🙋🏻‍♂️ that’s me, and I don’t plan on getting one so I’m stoked for this.

    I'm the same way. I don't plan to ever own another laptop (or desktop for that matter) again. So for folks likes us, at least trying the 1-month free trial is a no-brainer. If you think it's not right for you, be sure to cancel before June 22nd. Easy peasy.

  • SamuSamu

    Oh all the rants about subscription here and there...
    ...they all seem to forget that the low entry price is important to get new 'iPad Only' users on board the Logic train!

    When they later on get a desktop they have the app already and can choose wether to pay the full price and end the subscription or keep the subscription running...

    We still have no official word on how Apple will handle existing Logic Pro users.

    I will be laughing REALLY loud if it turns out to be free for existing Logic Pro users...
    ...we'll see that when the 10.7.8.update drops :sunglasses:

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]
    edited May 2023

    @Samu said:
    Oh all the rants about subscription here and there...
    ...they all seem to forget that the low entry price is important to get new 'iPad Only' users on board the Logic train!

    When they later on get a desktop they have the app already and can choose wether to pay the full price and end the subscription or keep the subscription running...

    We still have no official word on how Apple will handle existing Logic Pro users.

    I will be laughing REALLY loud if it turns out to be free for existing Logic Pro users...
    ...we'll see that when the 10.7.8.update drops :sunglasses:

    Even we don’t know when 10.7.8 will drop so we are blind guys too as destop Logic users. Hopefully I am just a hobby man but seems than for pro it is more and more stressful and we can understand that. LP Apple forum is like some pro guys going to wake up.

  • SamuSamu

    @BerlinFx said:

    Even we don’t know when 10.7.8 will drop so we are blind guys too as destop Logic users.

    It more or less has to be released before or at the same time as Logic for iPad as it is needed for the compatibility.
    Both iPadOS16.5 and macOS Ventura 13.4 will also be released this week, could be today or tomorrow...

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]
    edited May 2023

    @BerlinFx said:

    @Samu said:
    Oh all the rants about subscription here and there...
    ...they all seem to forget that the low entry price is important to get new 'iPad Only' users on board the Logic train!

    When they later on get a desktop they have the app already and can choose wether to pay the full price and end the subscription or keep the subscription running...

    We still have no official word on how Apple will handle existing Logic Pro users.

    I will be laughing REALLY loud if it turns out to be free for existing Logic Pro users...
    ...we'll see that when the 10.7.8.update drops :sunglasses:

    Even we don’t know when 10.7.8 will drop so we are blind guys too as destop Logic users.

    @Samu said:

    @BerlinFx said:

    Even we don’t know when 10.7.8 will drop so we are blind guys too as destop Logic users.

    It more or less has to be released before or at the same time as Logic for iPad as it is needed for the compatibility.
    Both iPadOS16.5 and macOS Ventura 13.4 will also be released this week, could be today or tomorrow...

    I don’t want to go to Ventura as I read so many LP users have problems since upgrade to Ventura I would like to stay at latest upgrade of Monterey what do you think about and is it possible? Same to stay fiest to iOS 16 not going straight away to ios17 ?

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