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It all depends on how many 3rd party plug-ins you have for Logic.
I've had ZERO issues with Logic under Ventura as I mostly use stock plug-ins and a few freeware synths and fx plug-ins.
iPadOS16 updates have been a smooth sail with all those apps I've got installed, including a bunch of really old IAAs.
Trust me when stuff doesn't work I get pretty vocal here on the forums (and other places) and so far I've not had to do that.
iPadOS17 will most likely bring some nice audio related features which will benefit Logic on the iPad.
I would not be surprised if the Logic updates that ship after iPadOS17 is released will require iPadOS17.
But hey, everyone is allowed to do as they please but all AUv3 related fixes will only come to the most recent iPadOS versions so staying behind the updates could eventually become a bag of hurt...
It might encourage you to know that I’m using a 2013 iMac quad 3,5ghz i7 but with 32gb ram running the latest macOS (with a little help of open core legacy patcher) and latest Logic without any issues. All smooth
so if you have a newer machine I wouldn’t be too worried.
Thanks @Samu @jacou Macbook AIR M1 and Logic X without any thirs party plugins or VST only stock plugin.
Then there's really no worry to update. macOS Ventura looks a bit different (more like the iPad & iPhone) in the settings etc.
On my i5 MacMini the graphics drivers alone shipping with Ventura made a BIG difference in overall display performance.
If you're in no rush wait for macOS Ventura 13.4 to drop which will save you from updating again after a few days
Many thanks for your advice , I am not in a hurry so I will wait for Ventura 13.4
Definitely not a fan of subscriptions, especially for Daws, but if it means I won’t spend half my time troubleshooting and ill be able to focus more on making music I’ll pay a subscription. At this point I have sooooo many Daws and pretty much every single one falls short of desktop Daws. I was an early user of IPad Daws and apps, I’ve been a member of this forum since 2013, I really believed the IPad was the future of audio production but now I pretty much use my MacBook Pro for production. My IPad still plays a role but it more of a supporting role and I’ve pretty much given up on IPad Daws at least for now. Hopefully Logic Pro for IPad will restore my faith in IPad Production. I love all the synths, effects and other things but I’m kinda over the Daws, they really kills my inspiration most of the time
That would be pretty funny. I plan on paying for the desktop version after I finish my evaluation either way.
I’m pretty sure that both Logic Pro on iPad/Mac will be version 11.0 (and subscription for both platforms)…
Yep. And if someone ain’t planning on ever going back, this - and Final Cut Pro - is kind of huge. I was jamming in AUM last night, and I know I’ll never leave that workflow behind, but having a comprehensive DAW for timeline working or to dump AUM stems into to chop up will be amazing.
On laptop I’m planning on getting is a gaming laptop and it’ll be off limits for music.
I do love live performing Ambient in AUM.
Neither Logic Pro nor Mainstage will ever replace AUM for me when it comes to the live stuff. (Thank you @j_liljedahl for your wonderful amazing apps!)
But when it comes to the regular production, such as Lofi and EDM and non-live Ambient, I have a gut feeling that Logic Pro will become my number one go-to app. Since it has Flex Pitch (and indeed, @Samu showed me a screenshot in my thread basically confirming that), I won't need any other tuning app, and Cubasis may very well bite the dust from my M1 iPad Pro and iPhone. (I know that Auxy Pro will bite the dust since I'm cancelling the subscription to that.)
Sounds like a good plan to me mate. What games are you looking forward to playing? (You can private message me so as to not derail this thread too far, lol.)
Me too. Wondering if both versions will be included one subscription.
That would be neat…
Apple has removed the 10.7.8 compatibility requirement from the iPad Logic pages…
What people seem to forget is that we are heading towards a great recession and instability in the Western world, and it is to be seen if subscription based software (or anything subscription based) is going to be a priority for people when they have to struggle to pay the bills. Everyone who is following the financial situation behind the scenes knows that the whole sh*ithouse is about to go up in flames sooner than later. Subscription based software is not a certainty, you just loan it, not own it. Everything you have bought is yours to use for as long as you want, and that is a certainty. When you start needing your cash to buy food and pay rent all these little things start to matter. I own Cubasis, synths, fx, hosts. I own it, and it will not suck money from my wallet every month, and all these little investments I (we) have made become more valuable when the worldwide situation starts to flip, as we can still make great music with what we own. For as long as we want.
Your opinion is right but what I experience actually is that many people prefer to eat less than reduce their leisure budget fit their Holliday, hobby. Even poor people in this forum continue to buy apps as some people prefer to drink Coca-Cola rather than water or cheaper brands witch are not Coca Cola. That a reality.
Guys will pay 5 usd per month for their hobby and will don’t go everyday to Starbucks and make their coffee at home.
I can’t say to my wife no Holliday this year so it cost me 2000 usd.
You are talking about the present situation, I am talking about the upcoming situation.
Ok fine I’m so “scared” of the $5 subscription now. The end of the world is nigh.
What people seem to forget is that GarageBand for iOS when it initially launched it was a paid app ($6.99) and over time has included at least one paid $4.99 IAP (RED Loops). I bought GB and the IAP way back in time...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GarageBand#GarageBand_for_iOS
So while GarageBand is now 'Free' and included with every single iDevice shipping from Apple it has not always been the case.
7 days to go until I can get my fingers in iPad Logic
Nobody is talking about the end of the world. All I am saying is, think twice before building a complete creative workflow around a subscription based model. Once you stop paying you are back at square one.
Interesting, what could that imply?
I just wanna do a Rumplestiltkin and sleep for the next week. I just can’t take it anymore ..
When is this recession due? Next 12 months? 3 years away? Less than 12 months?
Maybe Logic 11 is around the corner?
(This could mean that Apple drops Intel support for Logic).
On another note I'll be keeping an eye on WWDC'23 to see if my Intel MacMini will survive another...
The date is yet to determine, all we know it will be on a Tuesday afternoon.
When are we seeing financial woes? How condescendingly bourgeois and ignorant.What financially protected bubble do you mostly seem to live in. @Slush hit the nail on the head. That’s the most important, accurate and relevant post regarding the subscriptions and customers lives.
Real talk: best post that came out of this nonsense thread after thread.
That’s why BM3 will most likely Remain my DAW, despite Logic doing everything it can and slightly more stable or “better”
If a tool works perfectly well, even if there is a newer, better version, you aren’t really losing out either way you go
I’m not worried about Logic Pro, I’ll take it if it’s awesome and I can afford it, but $50/ year or $6 a month, that’s actually food and life expenses that are higher now more than ever , but I have a family and kids (Single, young producers wouldn’t understand or care lol) so I am rooting for intua!
surely that they are not ready yet to release the 10.7.8 before the launch of iOS Logic. On Logic forum pro make the pressure on Apple to have 10.7.8 in order that it is not buggy , pro they don’t care first about iOS Logic they want their Logic ready to work as they make a living with it.
Calm down sunshine. He said we are heading towards a great recession - what is wrong with asking when "everyone who is following the financial situation behind the scenes" think this great recession will be?
As for me being bourgeois and in a financially protected bubble - well that's where you are being ignorant. You know nothing about me. I wish I was in a financially proteced bubble. I'll have some of that. Please.
But you can resell your license and get a large chunk of your money back. I bought mine second-hand.
I perfectly understand that it is not an easy time , Apple sell less priced IPhone and sales for IPad have dropped they are not out of the reality I am not sure at all but going to a 5 usd monthly pricing model could be influenced also by that fact too. Many bought new IPad in 2020 and 2021 before the crisis. Apple itself fired many employees for the first time since 15 years ?
No problem, just go back to the 987 different apps we already have purchased on Appstore…
If you took it that way, it spoke to you and you get it. If you aren’t part of that hyperbolic example I just came up with why reply? I don’t know you and your point fell short, but good dramatic effects and tone buddy
didn’t mean to hit home if it did, I was referring to APPLE considering the economy, not people who have no problem affording it (like you I assume at this point? Or would that be ignorant too? Lol)
Pretending there is no “recession” or economic problems is again, your either rich and don’t care (bourgeoisie) or you are truly ignorant to the goings on in life
So baby cakes I hope that clears it up . Slush is still right, and your “counterpunch” lacked any effect.