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[Logic Pro] My review - what's in and what's missing

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  • JanosaxJanosax

    …> @Samu said:

    @Janosax said:
    …> @Samu said:

    @Janosax said:

    @Samu said:

    @Janosax said:

    I don’t see how to have no tracks selected to set quantize default options?

    Maybe try scrolling down a bit...

    Nothing

    Select 'Region Defaults' in the menu that says 'Piste' (Don't know what Region Defaults is in French).

    All I have here is midi motif and drummer

    Up here...

    Pfff thanks :D

  • JanosaxJanosax

    Is it possible to record iFretless bass midi notes directly to the track by playing its UI? It works perfectly in Garageband but not here. I struggle with that too.

  • HotStrangeHotStrange

    @Gavinski said:
    It doesn't make drag and drop easier really... But drag and drop is generally superior to loading from within an app itself. Why? Because the files app does not remember your last location. So if you open files from within an app and scroll to, say, a samples folder somewhere in audioshare, and load a file from it, then if you want to load another file, you will have to navigate to the relevant folder all over again. It's ludicrously stupid. So by using drag and drop you can just keep that folder open in slideover, knock it offscreen when not using swipe to bring it back in, and it will still be at the last location you left it at, the last folder or whatever. Much better. And if you keep the slideover app on the left of the screen, you won't accidentally trigger 'delete' when trying to drag, as often happens when trying to drag from the right side

    @HotStrange said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @BerlinFx said:
    Since I have since 2 days Sample Crate that change a lot better my experience with sample management not only in Logic but with many music apps. Only 3 $ and it worth it .

    It is also a great way to organize all your sample as stock samples or to do a music project. Thanks to some here that advise to use it

    It’s definitely on my to buy list. Do you have to manually move your samples or does it sync to the files app automatically?

    It is basically just like the files app but it allows you to preview midi and audio files with one touch, without opening a separate window.

    That alone is super useful. What’s the other benefit? It makes drag n drop easier?

    Ugh yes having to navigate back all over again is such a PITA. I’m glad the files app was made but it needs some serious work to be more intuitive. Think I’ll pick it up.

  • HotStrangeHotStrange

    @alecsbuga said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @BerlinFx said:
    Since I have since 2 days Sample Crate that change a lot better my experience with sample management not only in Logic but with many music apps. Only 3 $ and it worth it .

    It is also a great way to organize all your sample as stock samples or to do a music project. Thanks to some here that advise to use it

    It’s definitely on my to buy list. Do you have to manually move your samples or does it sync to the files app automatically?

    It is basically just like the files app but it allows you to preview midi and audio files with one touch, without opening a separate window.

    That alone is super useful. What’s the other benefit? It makes drag n drop easier?

    You can create kits in it with samples you have in folders and play them via pads, you can concatenate samples and create sample chains, you can batch rename, you can do quite a few tricks.

    Oh wow so it basically makes files what be what apple shoulda done 😂 thanks for this! It sounds great.

  • zzrwoodzzrwood

    @Gavinski said:
    It doesn't make drag and drop easier really... But drag and drop is generally superior to loading from within an app itself. Why? Because the files app does not remember your last location. So if you open files from within an app and scroll to, say, a samples folder somewhere in audioshare, and load a file from it, then if you want to load another file, you will have to navigate to the relevant folder all over again. It's ludicrously stupid. So by using drag and drop you can just keep that folder open in slideover, knock it offscreen when not using swipe to bring it back in, and it will still be at the last location you left it at, the last folder or whatever. Much better. And if you keep the slideover app on the left of the screen, you won't accidentally trigger 'delete' when trying to drag, as often happens when trying to drag from the right side

    This 👆x 100!

    I can’t understand why anyone would want each app to implement their own file import system, when they should just implement drag and drop…
    I mean Zenbeats and Cubasis are not exactly easy in comparison to this process…

  • NoiseHorseNoiseHorse

    Here’s my idea: I realize Logic Pro will never be on the iPhone, there’s barely enough screen space on an iPad. BUT how hard would it be to allow LP projects to Cloud drop into GarageBand? Yes tons of instruments and effects and functionality would be missing but maybe the MIDI files could be frozen so GB could show all Audio files only?
    I’d just like to be able to hear mixes on my phone and be able to adjust levels, EQs, panning, maybe add 3rd party(universal) effects that could go back and forth.

  • klownshedklownshed

    @NoiseHorse said:
    Here’s my idea: I realize Logic Pro will never be on the iPhone, there’s barely enough screen space on an iPad. BUT how hard would it be to allow LP projects to Cloud drop into GarageBand? Yes tons of instruments and effects and functionality would be missing but maybe the MIDI files could be frozen so GB could show all Audio files only?
    I’d just like to be able to hear mixes on my phone and be able to adjust levels, EQs, panning, maybe add 3rd party(universal) effects that could go back and forth.

    Before that ever happens, you can make GB projects on the iPad from your Logic stems. It's fiddler than it should be to do that but at least you can then open the GB project on your iPhone and back and forth with the iPad. and it'll still obviously open in Logic too. Far from perfect but better than nothing.

  • klownshedklownshed

    Hopefully the files app will be better in iOS/iPad OS 17. We'll find out soon -- not long till WWDC

  • klownshedklownshed

    @HotStrange said:

    @Gavinski said:
    It doesn't make drag and drop easier really... But drag and drop is generally superior to loading from within an app itself. Why? Because the files app does not remember your last location. So if you open files from within an app and scroll to, say, a samples folder somewhere in audioshare, and load a file from it, then if you want to load another file, you will have to navigate to the relevant folder all over again. It's ludicrously stupid. So by using drag and drop you can just keep that folder open in slideover, knock it offscreen when not using swipe to bring it back in, and it will still be at the last location you left it at, the last folder or whatever. Much better. And if you keep the slideover app on the left of the screen, you won't accidentally trigger 'delete' when trying to drag, as often happens when trying to drag from the right side

    @HotStrange said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @BerlinFx said:
    Since I have since 2 days Sample Crate that change a lot better my experience with sample management not only in Logic but with many music apps. Only 3 $ and it worth it .

    It is also a great way to organize all your sample as stock samples or to do a music project. Thanks to some here that advise to use it

    It’s definitely on my to buy list. Do you have to manually move your samples or does it sync to the files app automatically?

    It is basically just like the files app but it allows you to preview midi and audio files with one touch, without opening a separate window.

    That alone is super useful. What’s the other benefit? It makes drag n drop easier?

    Ugh yes having to navigate back all over again is such a PITA. I’m glad the files app was made but it needs some serious work to be more intuitive. Think I’ll pick it up.

    Until the files app gets better, put your audio folders in the favourites section of the files app to make it easier and much quicker to navigate to where your samples are. If you have a ‘Samples’ folder just drag it to the sidebar in files.

    Again not perfect but better than nothing.

  • Vip8888Vip8888

    @Janosax said:
    Is it possible to record iFretless bass midi notes directly to the track by playing its UI? It works perfectly in Garageband but not here. I struggle with that too.

    I don’t have iFretless, but assuming it loads as a MIDI Fx(?), you can long press the tile and select the ‘Record MIDI to track here’ option.

  • richardyotrichardyot

    @klownshed said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @Gavinski said:
    It doesn't make drag and drop easier really... But drag and drop is generally superior to loading from within an app itself. Why? Because the files app does not remember your last location. So if you open files from within an app and scroll to, say, a samples folder somewhere in audioshare, and load a file from it, then if you want to load another file, you will have to navigate to the relevant folder all over again. It's ludicrously stupid. So by using drag and drop you can just keep that folder open in slideover, knock it offscreen when not using swipe to bring it back in, and it will still be at the last location you left it at, the last folder or whatever. Much better. And if you keep the slideover app on the left of the screen, you won't accidentally trigger 'delete' when trying to drag, as often happens when trying to drag from the right side

    @HotStrange said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @BerlinFx said:
    Since I have since 2 days Sample Crate that change a lot better my experience with sample management not only in Logic but with many music apps. Only 3 $ and it worth it .

    It is also a great way to organize all your sample as stock samples or to do a music project. Thanks to some here that advise to use it

    It’s definitely on my to buy list. Do you have to manually move your samples or does it sync to the files app automatically?

    It is basically just like the files app but it allows you to preview midi and audio files with one touch, without opening a separate window.

    That alone is super useful. What’s the other benefit? It makes drag n drop easier?

    Ugh yes having to navigate back all over again is such a PITA. I’m glad the files app was made but it needs some serious work to be more intuitive. Think I’ll pick it up.

    Until the files app gets better, put your audio folders in the favourites section of the files app to make it easier and much quicker to navigate to where your samples are. If you have a ‘Samples’ folder just drag it to the sidebar in files.

    Again not perfect but better than nothing.

    I find that iOS forgets my Favourite folders for reasons I don't understand, but what does work for me is to tag folders with the colour tags, which then allows you to get back to that folder really quick:

  • HotStrangeHotStrange

    @richardyot said:

    @klownshed said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @Gavinski said:
    It doesn't make drag and drop easier really... But drag and drop is generally superior to loading from within an app itself. Why? Because the files app does not remember your last location. So if you open files from within an app and scroll to, say, a samples folder somewhere in audioshare, and load a file from it, then if you want to load another file, you will have to navigate to the relevant folder all over again. It's ludicrously stupid. So by using drag and drop you can just keep that folder open in slideover, knock it offscreen when not using swipe to bring it back in, and it will still be at the last location you left it at, the last folder or whatever. Much better. And if you keep the slideover app on the left of the screen, you won't accidentally trigger 'delete' when trying to drag, as often happens when trying to drag from the right side

    @HotStrange said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @BerlinFx said:
    Since I have since 2 days Sample Crate that change a lot better my experience with sample management not only in Logic but with many music apps. Only 3 $ and it worth it .

    It is also a great way to organize all your sample as stock samples or to do a music project. Thanks to some here that advise to use it

    It’s definitely on my to buy list. Do you have to manually move your samples or does it sync to the files app automatically?

    It is basically just like the files app but it allows you to preview midi and audio files with one touch, without opening a separate window.

    That alone is super useful. What’s the other benefit? It makes drag n drop easier?

    Ugh yes having to navigate back all over again is such a PITA. I’m glad the files app was made but it needs some serious work to be more intuitive. Think I’ll pick it up.

    Until the files app gets better, put your audio folders in the favourites section of the files app to make it easier and much quicker to navigate to where your samples are. If you have a ‘Samples’ folder just drag it to the sidebar in files.

    Again not perfect but better than nothing.

    I find that iOS forgets my Favourite folders for reasons I don't understand, but what does work for me is to tag folders with the colour tags, which then allows you to get back to that folder really quick:

    Oooo so tag red for all my samples then? I need to do this. I have a whole folder and hate having to scroll to it every time. Even when I search it doesn’t pop up until I’ve typed the whole thing out.

  • richardyotrichardyot

    @HotStrange said:

    @richardyot said:

    @klownshed said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @Gavinski said:
    It doesn't make drag and drop easier really... But drag and drop is generally superior to loading from within an app itself. Why? Because the files app does not remember your last location. So if you open files from within an app and scroll to, say, a samples folder somewhere in audioshare, and load a file from it, then if you want to load another file, you will have to navigate to the relevant folder all over again. It's ludicrously stupid. So by using drag and drop you can just keep that folder open in slideover, knock it offscreen when not using swipe to bring it back in, and it will still be at the last location you left it at, the last folder or whatever. Much better. And if you keep the slideover app on the left of the screen, you won't accidentally trigger 'delete' when trying to drag, as often happens when trying to drag from the right side

    @HotStrange said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @BerlinFx said:
    Since I have since 2 days Sample Crate that change a lot better my experience with sample management not only in Logic but with many music apps. Only 3 $ and it worth it .

    It is also a great way to organize all your sample as stock samples or to do a music project. Thanks to some here that advise to use it

    It’s definitely on my to buy list. Do you have to manually move your samples or does it sync to the files app automatically?

    It is basically just like the files app but it allows you to preview midi and audio files with one touch, without opening a separate window.

    That alone is super useful. What’s the other benefit? It makes drag n drop easier?

    Ugh yes having to navigate back all over again is such a PITA. I’m glad the files app was made but it needs some serious work to be more intuitive. Think I’ll pick it up.

    Until the files app gets better, put your audio folders in the favourites section of the files app to make it easier and much quicker to navigate to where your samples are. If you have a ‘Samples’ folder just drag it to the sidebar in files.

    Again not perfect but better than nothing.

    I find that iOS forgets my Favourite folders for reasons I don't understand, but what does work for me is to tag folders with the colour tags, which then allows you to get back to that folder really quick:

    Oooo so tag red for all my samples then? I need to do this. I have a whole folder and hate having to scroll to it every time. Even when I search it doesn’t pop up until I’ve typed the whole thing out.

    Exactly, the tags seem more robust than the favourites feature, and you can use them i multiple different ways. Tag your samples folder red for example, but then also tag subfolders that you use a lot, so for example you can tag your drum samples subfolder in blue etc...

  • HotStrangeHotStrange

    @richardyot said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @richardyot said:

    @klownshed said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @Gavinski said:
    It doesn't make drag and drop easier really... But drag and drop is generally superior to loading from within an app itself. Why? Because the files app does not remember your last location. So if you open files from within an app and scroll to, say, a samples folder somewhere in audioshare, and load a file from it, then if you want to load another file, you will have to navigate to the relevant folder all over again. It's ludicrously stupid. So by using drag and drop you can just keep that folder open in slideover, knock it offscreen when not using swipe to bring it back in, and it will still be at the last location you left it at, the last folder or whatever. Much better. And if you keep the slideover app on the left of the screen, you won't accidentally trigger 'delete' when trying to drag, as often happens when trying to drag from the right side

    @HotStrange said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @BerlinFx said:
    Since I have since 2 days Sample Crate that change a lot better my experience with sample management not only in Logic but with many music apps. Only 3 $ and it worth it .

    It is also a great way to organize all your sample as stock samples or to do a music project. Thanks to some here that advise to use it

    It’s definitely on my to buy list. Do you have to manually move your samples or does it sync to the files app automatically?

    It is basically just like the files app but it allows you to preview midi and audio files with one touch, without opening a separate window.

    That alone is super useful. What’s the other benefit? It makes drag n drop easier?

    Ugh yes having to navigate back all over again is such a PITA. I’m glad the files app was made but it needs some serious work to be more intuitive. Think I’ll pick it up.

    Until the files app gets better, put your audio folders in the favourites section of the files app to make it easier and much quicker to navigate to where your samples are. If you have a ‘Samples’ folder just drag it to the sidebar in files.

    Again not perfect but better than nothing.

    I find that iOS forgets my Favourite folders for reasons I don't understand, but what does work for me is to tag folders with the colour tags, which then allows you to get back to that folder really quick:

    Oooo so tag red for all my samples then? I need to do this. I have a whole folder and hate having to scroll to it every time. Even when I search it doesn’t pop up until I’ve typed the whole thing out.

    Exactly, the tags seem more robust than the favourites feature, and you can use them i multiple different ways. Tag your samples folder red for example, but then also tag subfolders that you use a lot, so for example you can tag your drum samples subfolder in blue etc...

    Fantastic. I just bought sample crate and made a tag for random noise samples. Gonna do some more organization and tagging tomorrow. Thanks!

  • alecsbugaalecsbuga

    @BerlinFx said:

    @Samu said:

    @BerlinFx said:

    @alecsbuga said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @BerlinFx said:
    Since I have since 2 days Sample Crate that change a lot better my experience with sample management not only in Logic but with many music apps. Only 3 $ and it worth it .

    It is also a great way to organize all your sample as stock samples or to do a music project. Thanks to some here that advise to use it

    It’s definitely on my to buy list. Do you have to manually move your samples or does it sync to the files app automatically?

    It is basically just like the files app but it allows you to preview midi and audio files with one touch, without opening a separate window.

    That alone is super useful. What’s the other benefit? It makes drag n drop easier?

    You can create kits in it with samples you have in folders and play them via pads, you can concatenate samples and create sample chains, you can batch rename, you can do quite a few tricks.

    Samples chain can you explain more or do a seal screen videos recording to explain ? I miss that point learning sample crate.

    If I'm not mistaken it merges all selected samples into one file for slicing and dicing...
    ...so when you load a sample-chain into for example Quick Sampler it's already 'sliced' ready for drum-kit creation.

    It can be too , we need confirmation from @alecsbuga

    This feature is meant for hardware samplers like Octatrack, M8, OP1.
    But basically works in any sampler.

    Let's say you string together the elements of one kit.
    You load that sample in QuickSampler and you slice it in ... X slices or whatever hits you strung together. Then you can play the kit. This is useful in hardware samplers where memory is limited. In Logic you can drop samples into a Drum Machine Designer and call it a day.

  • alecsbugaalecsbuga

    @alecsbuga said:

    @BerlinFx said:

    @Samu said:

    @BerlinFx said:

    @alecsbuga said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @BerlinFx said:
    Since I have since 2 days Sample Crate that change a lot better my experience with sample management not only in Logic but with many music apps. Only 3 $ and it worth it .

    It is also a great way to organize all your sample as stock samples or to do a music project. Thanks to some here that advise to use it

    It’s definitely on my to buy list. Do you have to manually move your samples or does it sync to the files app automatically?

    It is basically just like the files app but it allows you to preview midi and audio files with one touch, without opening a separate window.

    That alone is super useful. What’s the other benefit? It makes drag n drop easier?

    You can create kits in it with samples you have in folders and play them via pads, you can concatenate samples and create sample chains, you can batch rename, you can do quite a few tricks.

    Samples chain can you explain more or do a seal screen videos recording to explain ? I miss that point learning sample crate.

    If I'm not mistaken it merges all selected samples into one file for slicing and dicing...
    ...so when you load a sample-chain into for example Quick Sampler it's already 'sliced' ready for drum-kit creation.

    It can be too , we need confirmation from @alecsbuga

    This feature is meant for hardware samplers like Octatrack, M8, OP1.
    But basically works in any sampler.

    Let's say you string together the elements of one kit.
    You load that sample in QuickSampler and you slice it in ... X slices or whatever hits you strung together. Then you can play the kit. This is useful in hardware samplers where memory is limited. In Logic you can drop samples into a Drum Machine Designer and call it a day.

    PS: SampleCrate analyses the longest sample and strings the samples together evenly spaced.

  • HotStrangeHotStrange

    @alecsbuga said:

    @alecsbuga said:

    @BerlinFx said:

    @Samu said:

    @BerlinFx said:

    @alecsbuga said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @BerlinFx said:
    Since I have since 2 days Sample Crate that change a lot better my experience with sample management not only in Logic but with many music apps. Only 3 $ and it worth it .

    It is also a great way to organize all your sample as stock samples or to do a music project. Thanks to some here that advise to use it

    It’s definitely on my to buy list. Do you have to manually move your samples or does it sync to the files app automatically?

    It is basically just like the files app but it allows you to preview midi and audio files with one touch, without opening a separate window.

    That alone is super useful. What’s the other benefit? It makes drag n drop easier?

    You can create kits in it with samples you have in folders and play them via pads, you can concatenate samples and create sample chains, you can batch rename, you can do quite a few tricks.

    Samples chain can you explain more or do a seal screen videos recording to explain ? I miss that point learning sample crate.

    If I'm not mistaken it merges all selected samples into one file for slicing and dicing...
    ...so when you load a sample-chain into for example Quick Sampler it's already 'sliced' ready for drum-kit creation.

    It can be too , we need confirmation from @alecsbuga

    This feature is meant for hardware samplers like Octatrack, M8, OP1.
    But basically works in any sampler.

    Let's say you string together the elements of one kit.
    You load that sample in QuickSampler and you slice it in ... X slices or whatever hits you strung together. Then you can play the kit. This is useful in hardware samplers where memory is limited. In Logic you can drop samples into a Drum Machine Designer and call it a day.

    PS: SampleCrate analyses the longest sample and strings the samples together evenly spaced.

    I did buy the app today btw and I can already see it being a game changer for me. Great work! (Also is an AU version of Samplist still in the works?)

  • alecsbugaalecsbuga

    @HotStrange said:

    @alecsbuga said:

    @alecsbuga said:

    @BerlinFx said:

    @Samu said:

    @BerlinFx said:

    @alecsbuga said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @BerlinFx said:
    Since I have since 2 days Sample Crate that change a lot better my experience with sample management not only in Logic but with many music apps. Only 3 $ and it worth it .

    It is also a great way to organize all your sample as stock samples or to do a music project. Thanks to some here that advise to use it

    It’s definitely on my to buy list. Do you have to manually move your samples or does it sync to the files app automatically?

    It is basically just like the files app but it allows you to preview midi and audio files with one touch, without opening a separate window.

    That alone is super useful. What’s the other benefit? It makes drag n drop easier?

    You can create kits in it with samples you have in folders and play them via pads, you can concatenate samples and create sample chains, you can batch rename, you can do quite a few tricks.

    Samples chain can you explain more or do a seal screen videos recording to explain ? I miss that point learning sample crate.

    If I'm not mistaken it merges all selected samples into one file for slicing and dicing...
    ...so when you load a sample-chain into for example Quick Sampler it's already 'sliced' ready for drum-kit creation.

    It can be too , we need confirmation from @alecsbuga

    This feature is meant for hardware samplers like Octatrack, M8, OP1.
    But basically works in any sampler.

    Let's say you string together the elements of one kit.
    You load that sample in QuickSampler and you slice it in ... X slices or whatever hits you strung together. Then you can play the kit. This is useful in hardware samplers where memory is limited. In Logic you can drop samples into a Drum Machine Designer and call it a day.

    PS: SampleCrate analyses the longest sample and strings the samples together evenly spaced.

    I did buy the app today btw and I can already see it being a game changer for me. Great work! (Also is an AU version of Samplist still in the works?)

    Yeah, I had the engine running as AU, but I encountered some sample rate issues & such.
    But I was just thinking these days... since now we have Logic, with QuickSampler which has proper time stretching & stuff... if it's still feasable to rewrite the whole thing

  • HotStrangeHotStrange

    @alecsbuga said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @alecsbuga said:

    @alecsbuga said:

    @BerlinFx said:

    @Samu said:

    @BerlinFx said:

    @alecsbuga said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @BerlinFx said:
    Since I have since 2 days Sample Crate that change a lot better my experience with sample management not only in Logic but with many music apps. Only 3 $ and it worth it .

    It is also a great way to organize all your sample as stock samples or to do a music project. Thanks to some here that advise to use it

    It’s definitely on my to buy list. Do you have to manually move your samples or does it sync to the files app automatically?

    It is basically just like the files app but it allows you to preview midi and audio files with one touch, without opening a separate window.

    That alone is super useful. What’s the other benefit? It makes drag n drop easier?

    You can create kits in it with samples you have in folders and play them via pads, you can concatenate samples and create sample chains, you can batch rename, you can do quite a few tricks.

    Samples chain can you explain more or do a seal screen videos recording to explain ? I miss that point learning sample crate.

    If I'm not mistaken it merges all selected samples into one file for slicing and dicing...
    ...so when you load a sample-chain into for example Quick Sampler it's already 'sliced' ready for drum-kit creation.

    It can be too , we need confirmation from @alecsbuga

    This feature is meant for hardware samplers like Octatrack, M8, OP1.
    But basically works in any sampler.

    Let's say you string together the elements of one kit.
    You load that sample in QuickSampler and you slice it in ... X slices or whatever hits you strung together. Then you can play the kit. This is useful in hardware samplers where memory is limited. In Logic you can drop samples into a Drum Machine Designer and call it a day.

    PS: SampleCrate analyses the longest sample and strings the samples together evenly spaced.

    I did buy the app today btw and I can already see it being a game changer for me. Great work! (Also is an AU version of Samplist still in the works?)

    Yeah, I had the engine running as AU, but I encountered some sample rate issues & such.
    But I was just thinking these days... since now we have Logic, with QuickSampler which has proper time stretching & stuff... if it's still feasable to rewrite the whole thing

    I’d definitely be interested as I still use AUM quite a lot but as the dev, it’s totally your call! I know it can be a ton of work.

  • DovJDovJ

    @Eclipxe said:
    Okay, overall take - 9.5/10

    It's not Garageband Pro, it's not everything in the desktop version of logic, but it's more than enough to be orders of magnitude better than any DAW ever on iOS.

    Key things:

    • UI is incredibly fluid and easy to get around
    • The plugin tiles are so useful - even AUv3s show controls. Love the metering. love love love them
    • Region and midi editing are quick and fluid. Best I've used in an iOS DAW
    • Very powerful region and midi controls - very deep settings for quantization, etc
    • Time sig, tempo, markers are all solid
    • All of the instruments are there and redesigned UIs (except Ultrabeat (which is now Drum Machine Designer)) and the full Sampler.
    • All of the effects are there
    • Midi fx are there, including SCRIPTER!!!!
    • AUv3s so far integrate very nicely, feel native
    • Full automation editing for Auv3s
    • Mixer is incredible
    • All of the drummers are there
    • Pattern editor is all there, very very very deep
    • Live loops all there
    • The chord strips, guitar strips, fretboard and scale locked keyboard are nice and available in any instrument
    • The browser now includes previews for everything (including instruments) - something missing from desktop logic
    • Has flex time

    Things missing from the desktop so far:

    • Score editor
    • Arrangement markers
    • Region aliases
    • No flex pitch
    • Alchemy full editing (though somewhat compensated by Sample Alchemy)
    • Full Multi Sampler is there for compat but no editing (the Quick Sampler mitigates with full features, slicing, time stretch, etc)
    • Settings are a bit sparse
    • No environment editor

    Overall, totally worth it. For all of the "well it's not going to be 1:1 to desktop", they're mostly right - there are some things missing, but 1) they're mostly mitigated and 2) other than arrangement markers and region aliases, are things that probably wouldn't translate well to an ipad. There might be other things I'm missing and will have to try roundtrip back and forth to desktop, but yeah solid 9.5/10. Game changer.

    One other missing function:

    • Support for control surfaces, whether Mackie or MIDI-learn.
  • R_2R_2
    edited May 2023

    @richardyot said:
    I find that iOS forgets my Favourite folders for reasons I don't understand

    Odd, I assume you tried both dragging as well as adding it through long-press menu?
    Fwiw i got 3 favorite folders (all on iCloud drive) and they always show. Just added one on my iPad and it appeared on my iPhone too (after syncing with iCloud).

  • matdun25848834matdun25848834

    still playing with LP ( as a lot of us are!) coming from Garageband IOS

    I was hoping for midi export built in, but now have to use Helium.

    When you change to another alchemy sound, you lose setup what you had on the previous sound e.g. Arp (gone), play surface (changed back e.g. you were using chord strips, it then switches back to keyboard).

    Maybe missing something, but from someone who's browsing sounds, having to re-add the arp etc, when you swap patches, just seems very counter intuitive.

  • matdun25848834matdun25848834

    Just realised you can lock the surface, so you can keep it on chord strips. Learning all the way :)

  • SamuSamu

    @matdun25848834 said:
    Just realised you can lock the surface, so you can keep it on chord strips. Learning all the way :)

    This is part of what makes it so fun to follow this thread...
    ...people thinking something is missing and get a total face-palm moment when they realize it's already there :sunglasses:

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    @Samu said:

    @matdun25848834 said:
    Just realised you can lock the surface, so you can keep it on chord strips. Learning all the way :)

    This is part of what makes it so fun to follow this thread...
    ...people thinking something is missing and get a total face-palm moment when they realize it's already there :sunglasses:

    The more difficult is to find where it is …. My new T-shirt “Lost in Logic” 😂

  • tahichetahiche

    I’m gonna leave this here in case 28889 threads on Logic are enough😜…
    My initial thoughts on Logic iOS:
    Best and most complete DAW on iOS so far. Very well made. But it’s not near a 1:1 port of Logic Pro Desktop yet.

    Pros:

    • Automation is the best on iOS by miles. Usable and not frustrating.
    • Playing surfaces are so much fun and inspiring. Using the touch screen in a wonderful way, not possible on desktop logic. Big win.
    • Buses, groups, summing…. Stuff needed to take mixing to a more serious level.
    • Stock fx and instruments. Got it all. Although to be honest I would have traded a ton of them for other features since we already had excellent auv3’s on iOS to cover just about everything. Oh, the Beat Mangler thing is great fun.
    • Drum patterns!. One of the things why I thought Zenbeats was way ahead of Cubasis. Can’t stand drums on piano roll.
    • Clip/loop view!. One of the things why I thought Zenbeats was way ahead of Cubasis. I got to say this was a pleasant surprise. I used on desktop and it’s either improved greatly on both platforms or iOS version is a lot better.
    • Drag a region to expand into a loop. One of the things why I thought Zenbeats was way ahead of Cubasis. A DAw that doesn’t implement this should be banned from the store.
    • Retrospective recording?. Haven’t tried it yet but amazing addition if it works well.
    • Bounce in place, merge regions… we’re these features so hard to implement and get right?.

    Cons:

    • workflow heavily focused on presets… might not be bad per se but overall you’re sort of forced to start from a preset and tweak rather than start from scratch.
    • Drum designer. Can only load whole presets (see above). Why on earth can’t o just change the snare?. Big omission, very annoying,
    • Multi sampler is just a preset player. No multi-samples drums.
    • Flex tone and time warp. HUGE OMISSION,. As it is, it’s only good as a quantizer. I don’t like quantizing in general, it’s a vibe killer. But I do want to fix some note that’s off, you can’t do that.
    • No tags for custom presets?. Also custom presets are, in general, not well implemented.
    • Can’t reorder effects?. Whaaat
    • projects in files app?. Me no likes.
    • This has mentioned a million times already… The fact that there’s no internal browser for samples is wonky.
    • And last but definately not least…

      WTF is this???. I keep pressing that stupid back arrow to go back to the previous level and it closes the bloody project!. Aghghhg.

    I personally would have called it Garage Band pro. That would have earned it a 10/10 and surprised everyone surpassing any expectations. As Logic Pro desktop user I can see all the things that are missing, and there’s quite a lot of them. But still, it’s a superb app, that will surely keep getting better.

  • richardyotrichardyot

    @tahiche said:

    • Flex tone and time warp. HUGE OMISSION,. As it is, it’s only good as a quantizer. I don’t like quantizing in general, it’s a vibe killer. But I do want to fix some note that’s off, you can’t do that.

    Just a couple of quick points: you can sorta fix a couple of notes that are out of time if you use the cut tool to make small regions and then the timestretch tool, it's not quite as good as transient markers but it's clse.

    @tahiche said:

    • Can’t reorder effects?. Whaaat

    You can, just tap the plus button at the top of the mixer to go into edit mode.

  • tahichetahiche

    @richardyot said:

    @tahiche said:

    • Flex tone and time warp. HUGE OMISSION,. As it is, it’s only good as a quantizer. I don’t like quantizing in general, it’s a vibe killer. But I do want to fix some note that’s off, you can’t do that.

    Just a couple of quick points: you can sorta fix a couple of notes that are out of time if you use the cut tool to make small regions and then the timestretch tool, it's not quite as good as transient markers but it's clse.

    @tahiche said:

    • Can’t reorder effects?. Whaaat

    You can, just tap the plus button at the top of the mixer to go into edit mode.

    Thanks for the tips!. Specially the rearrange of fx, don’t understand why you’d be able to do it on the mixer and not on the track edit panel, I hope they iron these things out, we’ve done way too many clunky workarounds.

  • ErrkaPettiErrkaPetti

    @richardyot said:

    @tahiche said:

    • Flex tone and time warp. HUGE OMISSION,. As it is, it’s only good as a quantizer. I don’t like quantizing in general, it’s a vibe killer. But I do want to fix some note that’s off, you can’t do that.

    Just a couple of quick points: you can sorta fix a couple of notes that are out of time if you use the cut tool to make small regions and then the timestretch tool, it's not quite as good as transient markers but it's clse.

    @tahiche said:

    • Can’t reorder effects?. Whaaat

    You can, just tap the plus button at the top of the mixer to go into edit mode.

    …or, in Plugin Tiles Mode, press the icon Pencil, then you can reorder plugins…

  • tahichetahiche

    @ErrkaPetti said:

    @richardyot said:

    @tahiche said:

    • Flex tone and time warp. HUGE OMISSION,. As it is, it’s only good as a quantizer. I don’t like quantizing in general, it’s a vibe killer. But I do want to fix some note that’s off, you can’t do that.

    Just a couple of quick points: you can sorta fix a couple of notes that are out of time if you use the cut tool to make small regions and then the timestretch tool, it's not quite as good as transient markers but it's clse.

    @tahiche said:

    • Can’t reorder effects?. Whaaat

    You can, just tap the plus button at the top of the mixer to go into edit mode.

    …or, in Plugin Tiles Mode, press the icon Pencil, then you can reorder plugins…

    Ahhhhhhhh 🙌
    This forum is the best.

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