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[Logic Pro] My review - what's in and what's missing

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  • @baconink said:

    @NeuM said:

    @monz0id said:

    @NeuM said:

    @monz0id said:

    @NeuM said:

    @monz0id said:

    @NeuM said:

    @realdawei said:

    @monz0id said:

    @NeuM said:
    Again, I'm having to answer from the perspective of GarageBand and not Logic Pro... but there are several ways to play strings. One is to use the keyboard, the other is to use the stringed instrument neck. The keyboard requires you use the Pitch setting. The stringed instrument neck sort of closely simulates a real violin/viola neck insofar as it has few indicators of where the notes are. You can achieve a glissando effect using either interface, BUT (at least on GarageBand) you cannot later change the instrument or copy and paste the MIDI information if you use the instrument neck UI. This might be different on Logic Pro iPadOS.

    Unfortunately it’s not there in Logic iOS, not that I can find anyway - the violin neck, doesn’t let me slide the note.

    I’m starting to think it’s a limitation with the instrument itself, rather than the playing surface, since ifretless Bass works.

    @realdawei said:
    i’ve been looking for it as well…haven’t found it thus far…a bit disappointing because GB has this along with some other cool surfaces for the Chinese and Japanese instruments

    Yep. This is part of what I want Logic for - a decent selection of traditional instruments with relevant playing surfaces, but feeling underwhelmed on both scores.

    Yes ifretless bass works they implemented a touch surface AUv3 with MIDI Out.

    Any 3rd party AUv3 vendor can do this if they have the taste to do so…but looks like the Logic team took a pass on it, or perhaps are considering it for an update.

    I have to imagine it's coming in the future since it's something that works in GarageBand today.

    Hmmm. Should be there now - I know it’s v1, but they’ve had years to do this, and it’s already a thing on the free app.

    I seem to be going through phases: hating it due to clumsy sample import and constant crashing, liking it a bit more as I became more familiar with the UI, almost loving it this morning when the crashing stopped and as I went through the instruments, looping, sequencing, fx etc., and now disappointment as I go deeper and discover features that are standard on even the free version, aren’t supported on here. Just been trying to edit MIDI, the editor is lacking compared to some of the apps we’re used to.

    Overall I can see a why a lot of folk are impressed, but it’s not ticking all my boxes.

    Just a suggestion: Lay down the initial tracks in GarageBand then open in LP. You won't have to buy another piece of software to solve the problem in the meantime. I use whatever works in any combination that makes sense or saves me time.

    I haven’t got space for both. The ‘real’ instruments was a big draw for me, along with AUv3 automation, I don’t need another IDM machine.

    OK.

    Sorry, that came across as a bit snappy - didn’t mean it that way - it’s been a long day!

    Understood. You've got a lot of concerns on your plate.

    😅

    Excuse me, but I was not being sarcastic or joking. It appears you misinterpreted my reply.

  • edited May 2023

    @Eclipxe said:
    monz0id - try just swiping the files app to the side in slide over, and then sliding your finger back in when you want to use it. You don't have to keep exiting it or even move away from logic - based on your description of how you're using it, I can understand how its probably super frustrating.

    Yeah that works, ta.

    @Eclipxe said:
    Also - do any other Apple apps have a file manager built in?

    It's not a file manager as such that I'm frustrated about (though Koala has one, and Logic does have one but excludes external files), it's the ability to click on the load audio file section of a sampler instrument (for example 'quick' sampler) and for it to open and allow me to browse and have access to all files on my iPad, rather than sandboxing me in to just the Logic stuff.

    So just one random example: Bleass Samplewiz - click 'load sample', and it brings up the file browser so I can select an audio file from anywhere on my iPad. No opening Files app and engaging slide-over, no shoving it to one side and keeping it open, no limiting me to just Logic content. Just one click. Done.

  • @Eclipxe said:
    monz0id - try just swiping the files app to the side in slide over, and then sliding your finger back in when you want to use it. You don't have to keep exiting it or even move away from logic - based on your description of how you're using it, I can understand how its probably super frustrating.

    But I also get brambros point - I mean if you zoom out, this is a massive app with such deep functionality...it totally resonates with me that certain things aren't perfect day 1, given how much of the core functionality is polished.

    Also - do any other Apple apps have a file manager built in? I seem to recall they all pretty much kick you to Files app when you want to manage importing data. In this regard, I think Logic Pro is just following the Apple standard way of doing things - yes not as nice as what some 3Ps are doing, but hopefully that will improve.

    How do you load files into the new Final Cut Pro on iPad?
    Do they use the Files app there also?

    Haven’t downloaded Final Cut yet, although I’m curious what Apple have baked there…

  • @Gavinski said:

    @monz0id said:

    @ErrkaPetti said:

    @brambos said:

    @el_bo said:

    @brambos said:
    Import schmimport. They are never going to let tiny details get into to the way of a massive product launch.

    *I also don’t think it’s a tiny detail, and I don’t think I've heard anyone express the current way of doing things as preferable.

    Obviously I also prefer a different way, and I agree with Monzo it's a UX cludge.

    But do you think whoever leads Apple's product division these days would even consider for a millisecond postponing a global WWDC product launch campaign because there exists a nicer way to import samples?

    In the grand scheme of Apple things, this is a minor inconvenience which can be ironed out in an update down the line. No risks, no hassle - the functionality is already there and can be used today (using the Apple-endorsed OS design pattern, no less).

    If I had to make this call, it would be an easy one :)

    For me using Files or Sample Crate is no big deal - can't understand what's so hard doing this?

    What’s so hard about making it work properly so you don’t have to jump in and out of two separate apps?

    @Gavinski said:
    I still think it's because they don't want people to see what a shit experience using in app file loading can be on iOS. The way it can not remember the last location that was opened in a particular app is such a workflow / joy killer

    Like when you also have to use the Files app, then?

    Files app is just a disaster, full stop

    I compare the Files app to what we had before on iOS. That was much, much more difficult to work with. iOS/iPadOS is an evolving product and probably always will be, because standards and expectations will continue to evolve. What we have today is practically miraculous.

  • edited May 2023

    @Gavinski said:

    @lazyass said:
    I don’t have sample crate, can it preview loops in sync with daw? I often use drumloops in bitwig to kickstart beat but can’t find proper solution on iOS. Loopy Pro can do this, but often it mess with speed, especially when bpm is high, like in jungle or hardcore drums.

    I don't recall it having that function.

    I do understand by the way why @Krupa is complaining about needing to use drag and drop, even with sample crate. The problem with dragging files is that it is so easy to accidentally trigger the 'delete file' option. Is there, or could there be, a way to toggle that on and off in sample crate @alecsbuga so that when it was off you would be able to drag files super quickly without worrying that ios thinks you might be trying to delete the file?

    I'm not sure. Will look into it. I see where this could be useful, meanwhile, try sliding it over on the left side, so it's exactly over Logic's browser and you drag files to the right :P

    Hahaha... it reminds me of Steve Jobs "You're holding it wrong". Man that guy had balls!

  • @monz0id said:
    having to keep jumping out of Logic to open the Files app, setting it to slide-over, choosing Logic as the slide-over destination, finding and dragging the file across

    Do you have Files in your dock? Then you can hold it and slide it over directly.

  • @R_2 said:

    @monz0id said:
    having to keep jumping out of Logic to open the Files app, setting it to slide-over, choosing Logic as the slide-over destination, finding and dragging the file across

    Do you have Files in your dock? Then you can hold it and slide it over directly.

    Yes but the dock isn’t visible when I’m in Logic, so I have to slide up Logic to open the Files app.

  • wimwim
    edited May 2023

    @Gavinski said:

    @monz0id said:

    @ErrkaPetti said:

    @brambos said:

    @el_bo said:

    @brambos said:
    Import schmimport. They are never going to let tiny details get into to the way of a massive product launch.

    *I also don’t think it’s a tiny detail, and I don’t think I've heard anyone express the current way of doing things as preferable.

    Obviously I also prefer a different way, and I agree with Monzo it's a UX cludge.

    But do you think whoever leads Apple's product division these days would even consider for a millisecond postponing a global WWDC product launch campaign because there exists a nicer way to import samples?

    In the grand scheme of Apple things, this is a minor inconvenience which can be ironed out in an update down the line. No risks, no hassle - the functionality is already there and can be used today (using the Apple-endorsed OS design pattern, no less).

    If I had to make this call, it would be an easy one :)

    For me using Files or Sample Crate is no big deal - can't understand what's so hard doing this?

    What’s so hard about making it work properly so you don’t have to jump in and out of two separate apps?

    @Gavinski said:
    I still think it's because they don't want people to see what a shit experience using in app file loading can be on iOS. The way it can not remember the last location that was opened in a particular app is such a workflow / joy killer

    Like when you also have to use the Files app, then?

    Files app is just a disaster, full stop

    That is simply is not true!

    Why so negative? Files app is nearly almost not a whole lot worse than Windows 98 file explorer. What exactly are you expecting after only 25 years? 🙄

  • @monz0id said:

    @R_2 said:

    @monz0id said:
    having to keep jumping out of Logic to open the Files app, setting it to slide-over, choosing Logic as the slide-over destination, finding and dragging the file across

    Do you have Files in your dock? Then you can hold it and slide it over directly.

    Yes but the dock isn’t visible when I’m in Logic, so I have to slide up Logic to open the Files app.

    If you do a smaller slide up from the bottom, the dock should appear over the top of Logic. It’s not exactly a workflow saver but might save you a couple of taps/gestures.

  • @monz0id said:

    @R_2 said:

    @monz0id said:
    having to keep jumping out of Logic to open the Files app, setting it to slide-over, choosing Logic as the slide-over destination, finding and dragging the file across

    Do you have Files in your dock? Then you can hold it and slide it over directly.

    Yes but the dock isn’t visible when I’m in Logic, so I have to slide up Logic to open the Files app.

    But if you slide up from the bottom of your screen the dock should appear while Logic stays full screen.

  • Filesapp drama cracks me up. of file management systems are borderline terrible imo….but amongst these Filesapp is my preferred. it’s the best of the worst.

  • @alecsbuga said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @lazyass said:
    I don’t have sample crate, can it preview loops in sync with daw? I often use drumloops in bitwig to kickstart beat but can’t find proper solution on iOS. Loopy Pro can do this, but often it mess with speed, especially when bpm is high, like in jungle or hardcore drums.

    I don't recall it having that function.

    I do understand by the way why @Krupa is complaining about needing to use drag and drop, even with sample crate. The problem with dragging files is that it is so easy to accidentally trigger the 'delete file' option. Is there, or could there be, a way to toggle that on and off in sample crate @alecsbuga so that when it was off you would be able to drag files super quickly without worrying that ios thinks you might be trying to delete the file?

    I'm not sure. Will look into it. I see where this could be useful, meanwhile, try sliding it over on the left side, so it's exactly over Logic's browser and you drag files to the right :P

    Hahaha... it reminds me of Steve Jobs "You're holding it wrong". Man that guy had balls!

    Ah jeez, great idea 😂 😂 😂 fuck me

  • @Gavinski said:

    @alecsbuga said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @lazyass said:
    I don’t have sample crate, can it preview loops in sync with daw? I often use drumloops in bitwig to kickstart beat but can’t find proper solution on iOS. Loopy Pro can do this, but often it mess with speed, especially when bpm is high, like in jungle or hardcore drums.

    I don't recall it having that function.

    I do understand by the way why @Krupa is complaining about needing to use drag and drop, even with sample crate. The problem with dragging files is that it is so easy to accidentally trigger the 'delete file' option. Is there, or could there be, a way to toggle that on and off in sample crate @alecsbuga so that when it was off you would be able to drag files super quickly without worrying that ios thinks you might be trying to delete the file?

    I'm not sure. Will look into it. I see where this could be useful, meanwhile, try sliding it over on the left side, so it's exactly over Logic's browser and you drag files to the right :P

    Hahaha... it reminds me of Steve Jobs "You're holding it wrong". Man that guy had balls!

    Ah jeez, great idea 😂 😂 😂 fuck me

    Thing is, sometimes you need it on the right side. But! I was playing around just now and discovered that if you drag down on the file before sliding it left you can generally get a quick drag without triggering the delete slider. Give it a try @krupa!

  • @Gavinski said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @alecsbuga said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @lazyass said:
    I don’t have sample crate, can it preview loops in sync with daw? I often use drumloops in bitwig to kickstart beat but can’t find proper solution on iOS. Loopy Pro can do this, but often it mess with speed, especially when bpm is high, like in jungle or hardcore drums.

    I don't recall it having that function.

    I do understand by the way why @Krupa is complaining about needing to use drag and drop, even with sample crate. The problem with dragging files is that it is so easy to accidentally trigger the 'delete file' option. Is there, or could there be, a way to toggle that on and off in sample crate @alecsbuga so that when it was off you would be able to drag files super quickly without worrying that ios thinks you might be trying to delete the file?

    I'm not sure. Will look into it. I see where this could be useful, meanwhile, try sliding it over on the left side, so it's exactly over Logic's browser and you drag files to the right :P

    Hahaha... it reminds me of Steve Jobs "You're holding it wrong". Man that guy had balls!

    Ah jeez, great idea 😂 😂 😂 fuck me

    Thing is, sometimes you need it on the right side. But! I was playing around just now and discovered that if you drag down on the file before sliding it left you can generally get a quick drag without triggering the delete slider. Give it a try @krupa!

    Haha I hadn’t thought of putting it on the left side either

  • @monz0id said:

    I'm surprised you're defending this. Using a separate app for slide over takes a lot more time and clicks than a simple 'import' file option. This is not my 'preference', this is a usability cludge.

    Yet I find having Sample Crate open in slide over my preferred method for sample import on any app that supports drag and drop… IMHO it is quicker, easier and provides immediate audio and midi preview…
    I don’t know of any other apps file import process that works as easily…

  • edited May 2023

    @zzrwood said:

    @monz0id said:

    I'm surprised you're defending this. Using a separate app for slide over takes a lot more time and clicks than a simple 'import' file option. This is not my 'preference', this is a usability cludge.

    Yet I find having Sample Crate open in slide over my preferred method for sample import on any app that supports drag and drop… IMHO it is quicker, easier and provides immediate audio and midi preview…
    I don’t know of any other apps file import process that works as easily…

    Sure, loading a kit, dragging multiple files from Files or a similar third-party app is quicker than importing multiple samples individually, but that’s not what I’m talking about. Loading samples into a sampler:

    Click ‘load sample’. Select sample. Play.

    If it ain’t broke, don’t fuck it up.

    Are we seriously still defending this crap?

  • @monz0id said:

    @zzrwood said:

    @monz0id said:

    I'm surprised you're defending this. Using a separate app for slide over takes a lot more time and clicks than a simple 'import' file option. This is not my 'preference', this is a usability cludge.

    Yet I find having Sample Crate open in slide over my preferred method for sample import on any app that supports drag and drop… IMHO it is quicker, easier and provides immediate audio and midi preview…
    I don’t know of any other apps file import process that works as easily…

    Sure, loading a kit, dragging multiple files from Files or a similar third-party app is quicker than importing multiple samples individually, but that’s not what I’m talking about. Loading samples into a sampler:

    Click ‘load sample’. Select sample. Play.

    If it ain’t broke, don’t fuck it up.

    Are we seriously still defending this crap?

    Swipe left. Select sample. Play.
    Isn’t that the same?
    Oh, and you can preview too, in Sample Crate…

  • @monz0id said:

    @NeuM said:
    Again, I'm having to answer from the perspective of GarageBand and not Logic Pro... but there are several ways to play strings. One is to use the keyboard, the other is to use the stringed instrument neck. The keyboard requires you use the Pitch setting. The stringed instrument neck sort of closely simulates a real violin/viola neck insofar as it has few indicators of where the notes are. You can achieve a glissando effect using either interface, BUT (at least on GarageBand) you cannot later change the instrument or copy and paste the MIDI information if you use the instrument neck UI. This might be different on Logic Pro iPadOS.

    Unfortunately it’s not there in Logic iOS, not that I can find anyway - the violin neck, doesn’t let me slide the note.

    I’m starting to think it’s a limitation with the instrument itself, rather than the playing surface, since ifretless Bass works.

    @realdawei said:
    i’ve been looking for it as well…haven’t found it thus far…a bit disappointing because GB has this along with some other cool surfaces for the Chinese and Japanese instruments

    Yep. This is part of what I want Logic for - a decent selection of traditional instruments with relevant playing surfaces, but feeling underwhelmed on both scores.

    actually my bad….it looks like some of these are hidden in surface settings…at least the performance aspects like sliding violin strings…i even found appropriate controllers for the asian instruments with selectable articulations

  • edited May 2023

    Since I have since 2 days Sample Crate that change a lot better my experience with sample management not only in Logic but with many music apps. Only 3 $ and it worth it .

    It is also a great way to organize all your sample as stock samples or to do a music project. Thanks to some here that advise to use it

  • edited May 2023

    @zzrwood said:

    @monz0id said:

    @zzrwood said:

    @monz0id said:

    I'm surprised you're defending this. Using a separate app for slide over takes a lot more time and clicks than a simple 'import' file option. This is not my 'preference', this is a usability cludge.

    Yet I find having Sample Crate open in slide over my preferred method for sample import on any app that supports drag and drop… IMHO it is quicker, easier and provides immediate audio and midi preview…
    I don’t know of any other apps file import process that works as easily…

    Sure, loading a kit, dragging multiple files from Files or a similar third-party app is quicker than importing multiple samples individually, but that’s not what I’m talking about. Loading samples into a sampler:

    Click ‘load sample’. Select sample. Play.

    If it ain’t broke, don’t fuck it up.

    Are we seriously still defending this crap?

    Swipe left. Select sample. Play.
    Isn’t that the same?
    Oh, and you can preview too, in Sample Crate…

    It’s not the same, it’s a workflow cludge, as I’ve already explained in earlier comments.

  • edited May 2023

    @realdawei said:

    @monz0id said:

    @NeuM said:
    Again, I'm having to answer from the perspective of GarageBand and not Logic Pro... but there are several ways to play strings. One is to use the keyboard, the other is to use the stringed instrument neck. The keyboard requires you use the Pitch setting. The stringed instrument neck sort of closely simulates a real violin/viola neck insofar as it has few indicators of where the notes are. You can achieve a glissando effect using either interface, BUT (at least on GarageBand) you cannot later change the instrument or copy and paste the MIDI information if you use the instrument neck UI. This might be different on Logic Pro iPadOS.

    Unfortunately it’s not there in Logic iOS, not that I can find anyway - the violin neck, doesn’t let me slide the note.

    I’m starting to think it’s a limitation with the instrument itself, rather than the playing surface, since ifretless Bass works.

    @realdawei said:
    i’ve been looking for it as well…haven’t found it thus far…a bit disappointing because GB has this along with some other cool surfaces for the Chinese and Japanese instruments

    Yep. This is part of what I want Logic for - a decent selection of traditional instruments with relevant playing surfaces, but feeling underwhelmed on both scores.

    actually my bad….it looks like some of these are hidden in surface settings…at least the performance aspects like sliding violin strings…i even found appropriate controllers for the asian instruments with selectable articulations

    Musicians looking to play virtual stringed instruments will expect the playing surface to behave like the real thing: sliding of notes for violins for example, or fretless basses as another example.

    Preset trills, short portamento’s and other set articulations are all very nice, but some musicians will want to be able to control the amount of note slide themselves, on the playing surface.

    A preset emulation is not the same as playing it yourself. Personally I find them completely naff.

    Actually, just checked - the tiny selection of stringed world instruments do allow sliding. But for some reason it’s not available in the Studio Strings.

  • @monz0id said:

    @realdawei said:

    @monz0id said:

    @NeuM said:
    Again, I'm having to answer from the perspective of GarageBand and not Logic Pro... but there are several ways to play strings. One is to use the keyboard, the other is to use the stringed instrument neck. The keyboard requires you use the Pitch setting. The stringed instrument neck sort of closely simulates a real violin/viola neck insofar as it has few indicators of where the notes are. You can achieve a glissando effect using either interface, BUT (at least on GarageBand) you cannot later change the instrument or copy and paste the MIDI information if you use the instrument neck UI. This might be different on Logic Pro iPadOS.

    Unfortunately it’s not there in Logic iOS, not that I can find anyway - the violin neck, doesn’t let me slide the note.

    I’m starting to think it’s a limitation with the instrument itself, rather than the playing surface, since ifretless Bass works.

    @realdawei said:
    i’ve been looking for it as well…haven’t found it thus far…a bit disappointing because GB has this along with some other cool surfaces for the Chinese and Japanese instruments

    Yep. This is part of what I want Logic for - a decent selection of traditional instruments with relevant playing surfaces, but feeling underwhelmed on both scores.

    actually my bad….it looks like some of these are hidden in surface settings…at least the performance aspects like sliding violin strings…i even found appropriate controllers for the asian instruments with selectable articulations

    Musicians looking to play virtual stringed instruments will expect the playing surface to behave like the real thing: sliding of notes for violins for example, or fretless basses as another example.

    Preset trills, short portamento’s and other set articulations are all very nice, but some musicians will want to be able to control the amount of note slide themselves, on the playing surface.

    A preset emulation is not the same as playing it yourself. Personally I find them completely naff.

    The best is to play a real violin and record you playing within LP iOS. It is the way great pro recording go Eve;fit pop music. Synth or modeling will not replace a real instrument. I still love to play sometimes on a physical piano.

  • edited May 2023

    @BerlinFx said:

    @monz0id said:

    @realdawei said:

    @monz0id said:

    @NeuM said:
    Again, I'm having to answer from the perspective of GarageBand and not Logic Pro... but there are several ways to play strings. One is to use the keyboard, the other is to use the stringed instrument neck. The keyboard requires you use the Pitch setting. The stringed instrument neck sort of closely simulates a real violin/viola neck insofar as it has few indicators of where the notes are. You can achieve a glissando effect using either interface, BUT (at least on GarageBand) you cannot later change the instrument or copy and paste the MIDI information if you use the instrument neck UI. This might be different on Logic Pro iPadOS.

    Unfortunately it’s not there in Logic iOS, not that I can find anyway - the violin neck, doesn’t let me slide the note.

    I’m starting to think it’s a limitation with the instrument itself, rather than the playing surface, since ifretless Bass works.

    @realdawei said:
    i’ve been looking for it as well…haven’t found it thus far…a bit disappointing because GB has this along with some other cool surfaces for the Chinese and Japanese instruments

    Yep. This is part of what I want Logic for - a decent selection of traditional instruments with relevant playing surfaces, but feeling underwhelmed on both scores.

    actually my bad….it looks like some of these are hidden in surface settings…at least the performance aspects like sliding violin strings…i even found appropriate controllers for the asian instruments with selectable articulations

    Musicians looking to play virtual stringed instruments will expect the playing surface to behave like the real thing: sliding of notes for violins for example, or fretless basses as another example.

    Preset trills, short portamento’s and other set articulations are all very nice, but some musicians will want to be able to control the amount of note slide themselves, on the playing surface.

    A preset emulation is not the same as playing it yourself. Personally I find them completely naff.

    The best is to play a real violin and record you playing within LP iOS. It is the way great pro recording go Eve;fit pop music. Synth or modeling will not replace a real instrument. I still love to play sometimes on a physical piano.

    Yeah, I could spend a few years learning the violin so I can slide notes. Or use GarageBand instead.

  • '> @monz0id said:

    Actually, just checked - the tiny selection of stringed world instruments do allow sliding. But for some reason it’s not available in the Studio Strings.

    Do you mean polyphonic pitchbend? You can set that up for the strings in the surface settings even though it’s not on as default.

  • @monz0id said:
    Actually, just checked - the tiny selection of stringed world instruments do allow sliding. But for some reason it’s not available in the Studio Strings.

    Oh, that’s a buzz kill - you have my moral support, c’mon Apple get this sorted!

  • edited May 2023

    @Banquet said:
    '> @monz0id said:

    Actually, just checked - the tiny selection of stringed world instruments do allow sliding. But for some reason it’s not available in the Studio Strings.

    Do you mean polyphonic pitchbend? You can set that up for the strings in the surface settings even though it’s not on as default.

    I can’t see that in the violin settings, but this should be a default anyway.

    Basically, a violin (I was married to a violinist for 12 years and mucked about on her violin when she wasn’t looking) fingerboard has no frets, so you can slide notes up and down, with a smooth transition between notes. Apps like ThumbJam and GarageBand have supported this option for years now.

    You don’t play real stringed instruments via a piano keyboard, or guitar fretboard, so whereas GarageBand emulates the natural playing surface, it’s missing in Logic ‘Pro’.

    I’ve just tried the ‘Geoshred hack’, and it still doesn’t provide note sliding, so I think this is a limitation in the instruments themselves, as opposed to a missing playing surface option.

  • edited May 2023

    @monz0id said:

    @Banquet said:
    '> @monz0id said:

    Actually, just checked - the tiny selection of stringed world instruments do allow sliding. But for some reason it’s not available in the Studio Strings.

    Do you mean polyphonic pitchbend? You can set that up for the strings in the surface settings even though it’s not on as default.

    I can’t see that in the violin settings, but this should be a default anyway.

    Basically, a violin (I was married to a violinist for 12 years and mucked about on her violin when she wasn’t looking) fingerboard has no frets, so you can slide notes up and down, with a smooth transition between notes. Apps like ThumbJam and GarageBand have supported this option for years now.

    You don’t play real stringed instruments via a piano keyboard, or guitar fretboard, so whereas GarageBand emulates the natural playing surface, it’s missing in Logic ‘Pro’.

    I’ve just tried the ‘Geoshred hack’, and it still doesn’t provide note sliding, so I think this is a limitation in the instruments themselves, as opposed to a missing playing surface option.

    It's not in the violin settings, it's in the keyboard settings. Open the keyboard, click on the 3 dots, then surface settings, then select polyphonic pitchblend.

    If you want something that responds well to pitchbend, modelled is usually better than sampled. Perhaps try the SWAM instruments.

  • Anyone know if the ES2 built in synth is supposed to be a sort of clone of the DW8000? Has a very 80s hybrid sound to it plus all the digital waves in the oscillator section.

  • @BerlinFx said:
    Since I have since 2 days Sample Crate that change a lot better my experience with sample management not only in Logic but with many music apps. Only 3 $ and it worth it .

    It is also a great way to organize all your sample as stock samples or to do a music project. Thanks to some here that advise to use it

    It’s definitely on my to buy list. Do you have to manually move your samples or does it sync to the files app automatically?

  • Yeah for the studio strings I find the GB implementation better from a surface perspective however for the erhu, guzheng etc I’m relieved the new surfaces in LP get the job done performance wise and sonically.

    That said the studio strings and horns in LP sound higher quality from a sampling perspective. (It’s been written from time to time that many of GB’s internal instruments run at significantly reduced sample rate )

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