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I tried to change those three defaults as someone here said they could do way more than three, but I suspect that they meant drawing in curves manually.
UX is pure crap, garageband style. Dragging files from another window is awful, own samples are not in built in browser (how fucking stupid is that). Everything slides and you have to wait until full stop for using certain functions like drag to select. Audio tracks handling is ok (for ipad). Audio routing in mixer is great. Useless browser pops up constantly, super annoying and takes half of screen. I can see this is useful for recording, and is probably most powerful "almost real daw" on ipad. Maybe will use it for live mixing, unless drambo brings audio clips..but it feels like a pain instead of fun. Caused so much fuss, jeez..ok rant over, back to drambo.
One point that hasn't been clarified above yet is around Scripter. This appears to cover similar territory to Mozaic however you can only create scripts on a Mac right now. I'd be surprised if someone doesn't release a tool soon to edit on iPad.
This still feels exciting so instead of messing with the UI or god forbid making some music I'm going to go read up on the new programming language. What is wrong with me? Sigh.
I’m liking the step sequencer automation. You can automate any auv3 parameter per step. Very cool. The Mac version has to make do with MIDI cc.
I haven’t found a way to duplicate a track using the same instrument though, so I’ll have to convert any midi regions into pattern regions to use it rather than put the modulation on another lane. If you import a Mac Logic project that has multiple tracks using the same instrument they come across fine.
If you find a cure for this please be sure to let me know!!
Funny how different people can feel.
I'm already finding Logic about a million times more fun than Drambo, which felt like pain to me, haha.
I spent the last hour just jamming on my iPad mini. Really enjoyed it. Made something better than I’ve made in the last 6 months. Was able to get in the flow easily. I’m finding recording automation is so much more fun and fluid due to the touch screen. I threw together some quick parts in live loops and added a drum loop then recorded my performance into the arranger with a bunch of automation. Added a couple of modulator midi fx and had some LFOs moving alchemy params. It felt very very natural once I got a feel for everything. Starting to get muscle memory. This was all on my mini also. Made a few automation tweaks, cut some parts (cut cycle is working well) and boom I had a song I was happy with. Went to mix a little, added some compression, some reverb. It was incredibly fun and inspiring. I want to play more. I love this app!
Possibly the file browsing functionality was implemented pre iOS 13 and they haven’t gotten around to using the latest API. It seems this app been under development for many years
I had chatGPT rewrite it as an article:
Apple's New Leap in Mobile Music Production: Logic Pro for iPad
In an unprecedented move, Apple has launched Logic Pro for iPad, marking a monumental leap in mobile music technology. This isn't a mere reflection of the desktop version or a "Garageband Pro", but it brings an impressive set of features to the table that set it miles ahead of any existing iOS Digital Audio Workstation (DAW). Scoring an impressive 9.5 out of 10, this release is a pivotal moment in the industry worth a detailed exploration.
A Fluid and Intuitive User Interface
The new iPad Logic Pro offers a beautifully fluid user interface (UI) that sets a new standard in navigation ease for any mobile DAW. This is a significant enhancement that raises the bar in app design for mobile music creation.
An Innovative Approach to Plugins
The plugin tiles are an innovative addition, displaying AUv3 controls with unprecedented clarity and usefulness. The integration of metering within these tiles adds a layer of functionality that enhances music production for mobile musicians.
Superior Region and MIDI Editing Capabilities
Region and MIDI editing are seamless, making the Logic Pro for iPad arguably superior to all other iOS DAWs in this respect. Detailed controls, including advanced quantization settings, provide unprecedented control over your music's every detail.
Full Featured Instruments, Effects, and Midi FX
Every instrument from the desktop version has been adapted for the iPad, boasting redesigned UIs. Notably, the full sampler is included, replacing Ultrabeat with the Drum Machine Designer. All effects are carried over, as well as MIDI effects, including the renowned SCRIPTER.
SCRIPTER's inclusion is particularly noteworthy. It's an advanced MIDI plugin for creating custom scripts within Logic Pro, allowing a level of MIDI control and processing not usually found in mobile DAWs. This move by Apple could pave the way for more complex compositions to be created on the go, and be a boon to the more tech-savvy composers.
Impressive Mixer and Pattern Editor
The mixer shines with comprehensive features that set a benchmark in the mobile music technology realm. The pattern editor offers an unprecedented depth of functionality that adds to the appeal of this robust platform.
Live Loops and Drummers
The inclusion of live loops and drummers broadens the creative potential of the iPad Logic Pro. The chord strips, guitar strips, fretboard, and scale-locked keyboard further enhance the app's performance capabilities, making it appealing to a diverse audience of musicians.
Previews in the Browser and Flex Time
The browser now includes previews for all items, including instruments, a feature that was missing in the desktop version. The addition of flex time makes the app a formidable competitor in the mobile music production space.
A Few Caveats
While Logic Pro for iPad is an impressive DAW, there are a few limitations. Certain features, like the score editor, arrangement markers, region aliases, flex pitch, and the environment editor, have been left out. Alchemy and Multi Sampler are present but lack full editing capabilities.
However, the omission of full Alchemy editing isn't as substantial as it might first appear. The inclusion of Sample Alchemy in the app somewhat compensates for this. Sample Alchemy offers a diverse range of sampled sounds, thereby offsetting the reduction in editing capacity. Similarly, while the full Multi Sampler lacks editing options, the Quick Sampler offers a range of features, including slicing and time stretching, that should mitigate this omission for many users.
In Conclusion
Apple's Logic Pro for iPad is a significant breakthrough in mobile music production. Even though it doesn't entirely mirror its desktop counterpart, it provides an extraordinary set of tools and features, placing it far ahead of any other iOS DAW to date.
With an impressive UI, innovative plugin tiles, superior MIDI editing, and a wealth of instruments, effects, and MIDI FX, Logic Pro for iPad stands as a robust platform for music creation. The seamless integration of AUv3 plugins and the powerful mixer demonstrate Apple's dedication to providing a full-fledged DAW experience on a mobile platform.
While some features are notably absent, many of these are mitigated by other features or may not have translated well to a mobile platform. For instance, while the Alchemy module doesn't provide the full editing experience of its desktop counterpart, the inclusion of Sample Alchemy somewhat bridges this gap. Similarly, the absence of full editing capabilities for the Multi Sampler is compensated by the Quick Sampler, which offers full features, slicing, and time stretching capabilities.
Ultimately, Logic Pro for iPad marks a significant stride in the evolution of mobile music production. It showcases the potential of mobile technology in professional music production, and despite a few gaps, it delivers an outstanding contribution to the music technology world. This version of Logic Pro isn't just a replication of the desktop version for iPad—it's a dedicated music production platform that offers depth for professionals while remaining accessible to beginners.
Earning a well-deserved rating of 9.5 out of 10, Logic Pro for iPad sends a clear message to the music industry: the age of professional mobile music production is not just on the horizon—it's here. Despite the minor limitations, this ground-breaking application sets the stage for the future of mobile music production and is a must-try for any serious music creator looking to expand their creative horizons on the go.
Love it. Love it
Ah, the first Logic Pro punch up.
Good to see.
Tempo and time sig tracks are super cool. But AUV3 touch automation is more important for me and Cubasis 3 does it so well. This one is not dead yet. Live Loops are nice too, missing from CB3. How are LP internal effects sonically compared to our iOS armada aka Audio Damage, FAC, BLEASS, Blamsoft…
Ah, yes... the old "wildly throw grenades and then leave" gambit. Always a big hit.
Am I a total noob or is there no grand piano? I can’t find a standard piano sound. I’ve downloaded all the packs but I don’t see it.
It’s all about jazz piano it seems… clusters?!
You can even say that @pepebaõ is being rather...wait for it...ilLOGICal. 🤣
Hmm… that’s one of the boilerplate patches. At least on desktop it is.
Worried they've foregone much of the original sampler content (World, orchestral etc.) in favour of more modern genre packs. Can you or anyone else ally my fears?
Cheers 🍻
I don’t see it anywhere. In the preview for the “Studio Essentials” pack, I can hear what sounds like a piano do a quick scale run down the board (doesn’t sound quite like the first piano you hear, which is an electric piano).. could be mistaken and they’re both electric pianos.
I straight up don’t see a grand piano anywhere.
Have you opened the patch list and tried using the search function? (I’m only assuming there is a search function).
What Instrument do you play? And what tracks have you played on that I might have heard on the radio?
EDIT: Pepe has left the building... guess we'll never know.
Yeah, I have - it brings them up as samples, and I can load up a Steinway or whatever as a sample.
There’s no Piano option in MIDI instruments or anything though, the only way I can get a grand piano sound, is to drag over a sampled sound.. which loads it in Sampler.
Doing this gives me no flexibility over the tone, it says Sampler parameters can only be edited on Mac..
I’ll add some screenshots.
In these images, you can see the first one about the Sampler issue. That’s okay if I wanted that sound and only that sound but surely there’s a way to actually load up the Grand Piano as an instrument, right?
The other pics show how there’s no option to load it up as an instrument from the MIDI screen - nothing.. I highlighted Vintage Keys and Studio Instruments there just so you can see there’s no option for a standard piano there.
The “default patch” option load up the E.Piano which is obviously not a Grand Piano.
I could be doing something wrong, I don’t know, but I don’t see any way to load up a grand piano as an instrument - I can load one up in Sampler but that’s not the same thing at all.
Any way we can get @brambos Rozeta apps working in this? Seems not as they are not classed as midi FX, no? Also - what is the current best YT vid to get up to speed on Logic for iPad? Or is it better to just work through the in-app tutorials?
Perhaps the grenade(S) are your now seeming tendency towards being insulting and demeaning. Perhaps you were entitled to it in your original defense, but snide comments about people having time to kill etc. are just unnecessary.
So, maybe it’s fair for others to point out out that such behaviour, along with your dismissal of a huge chunk of people you don’t know (‘cause “the fate of small forums”), is just you playing a similarly familiar internet forum role.
If you wish to leave, perhaps just 'pm' a mod. No need for the big “I Am!” and to get all scorched-earth about it
More shot’s fired! If, as you say, you have so little free time, why would you spend it insulting people?
Edit: I see you found them just cant edit them
I've seen a few videos, but they’re more 1st-look opinion pieces. Nothing wrong with that, but perhaps not really what you need at the moment. No doubt there will be some more comprehensive tutorial content from channels such as 'Misic Tech Help Guy' and 'Why Logic Pro Rules’, but not sure when that’ll appear.
In the meantime, the manual is really well-written, and there are those videos (not watched them yet). However, another thing to consider is watching tutorials aimed at Logic Pro, from the channels named above, for the big-hitter functionality e.g Drum Machine Designer, Live Loops and the Step Sequencer will help understand the seemingly identical iPad versions.
I found the in-app tutorials invaluable in familiarizing myself with the overall UI and learning the new plugins.
Yes, the Rozeta plugins won’t load in a MIDI FX slot so the only ways to use them I can think of today are to record their output to timeline while loaded as an AUv3 instrument and then copy the MIDI region to another track, for run them in AUM synced with Ableton Link and output the MIDI to Logic. Haven’t actually tried either method though.
Some interesting takes on the two apps released (I can't open FCP for some stupid reason, so frustrated by that).
Has anyone managed to record a midi clip from a Drambo sequence? Maybe you can’t record midi from a MIDI FX slot?