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You forgot time signature and tempo changes.
I initially signed up for a year. As I dig in, though, I'm frustrated by how difficult Apple has made it to move things in and out of the app: audio, MIDI, IRs. It's similar to GarageBand in that regard, and not what I expect from a "Pro" app. The discount for a year isn't that big, so I think I'll go a month at a time until I see what Apple does. I'm happy to pay a subscription for Loopy Pro, because it means the product will be improved and maintained (something I don't take for granted). But if Apple's just going to charge rent, I'll dip in and out as needed.
I'm starting to think the same actually, yeah. Probably better to get the monthly than the annual. Bit disappointed by all the really pretty necessary stuff (no drawing volume automation? Wtf!) that's been left out, as well as the ugly af UIs for most of the inbuilt instruments. As someone who likes a nice UI, I seriously expect better from Apple.
Me, I like a nice UI as well, but the ugly UI isn't a dealbreaker. However, the more I toy with Logic Pro, the more I realise that I really, really miss Gadget, a lot ! I deleted Pure Synth Platinum from my iPad to make space to install the Gadget ecosystem on my Mini 6. (I already have Module Pro and all IAPs installed.)
That said, I'm going to keep Logic Pro around mostly for EP mastering purposes as well as to experiment with making Justice-styled tracks.
But oh do I miss Gadget.
The yearly subscription discount is pretty standard at 10% of the monthly annual cost. For low-cost subscription like Logic Po, I rather have the freedom to start and stop whenever I like, so pay monthly. I would pay annually for my Apple One Premier subscription as £32.95/month tots up to an annual commitment of £390, but Apple doesn't make one available - the sneaky money grabbing buggers! 😠😠😠
Wait what? You mean no brush tool for track automation, right? I’m sure it’s there for regions…?
Over the weekend, I had to mix a piece in logic so I used the opportunity to test the iPad version and see how it stacks up against Logic Mac. My obviously very subjective conclusion is it doesn't.
I'm quite sure it's all user error and lack of knowledge but since I am already comfortable with the desktop version and I don't need portability when mixing (I'm literally sitting at the same desk when I use either platform 🙂), this is another argument in favour of the "occasional monthly rents max" option. AUM/Loopy apparently still rule the iPad for me and whatever needs Logic can simply be sent to the Mac.
This is what people have been saying in the 'what logic for iPad doesn't have' thread, at least.
@Gavinski @MadGav - Volume Automation is there in Logic for iPad, also, in brush tool mode…
Gavinski must have been written Volume instead of Velocity - there’s no Velocity Automation, only single/multi note selection in Piano Roll can changed the velocity…
Apologies to others for the slight digression. Rather than answering Gavin in a PM, I thought this information might be of help to some others too, so I'm replying here.
The trick with "second brain" strategies is to literally use them as a brain dump of everything & anything you may want to refer back to at some future date (get data in as fast and friction free as possible). And don't overthink it. The most vital aspect of a second brain strategy, is to carry out regular reviews (I do this weekly, but you'll work out the frequency that works best for you).
So, in short, get data in as fast as you can, and then regularly review your data where you perform deeper categorisation (tagging, wiki style links and suchlike). The most important aspect of working in this manner is that the data structure you create is optimised for filtering and searching fluidly, and that connected ideas flow naturally from those core searches. That's how our actual brains function. Memory recall (and this is a very broad simplification) is powered by interlinking connected ideas & experiences (this is the reason mind mapping is so effective).
If you're using different tools, ensure that you can search and filter the data via a single search tool. In my case, the core applications I use are Obsidian, Pinboard.in, general web browser bookmarking, HookMark bookmarking (macOS only), mind mapping (I use a few different tools here) and DevonThink. And I search and filter this data via Recoll, a brilliant full-text search tool, that's free, open source, and has clients for Linux, Windows and macOS. Added to this is the Alfred launcher, which at its core is a Spotlight replacement, but that only describes a thin sliver of its possibilities. I love it so much, I long ago purchased a lifetime licence.
And an honourable mention goes to Keyboard Maestro. I think of Keyboad Maestro, Alfred and TextExpander as the lubrication and glue that enables me that get data into my "second brain" repository as quickly and fluidly as possible.
I use Linux, macOS and Windows in tandem and access all via a single keyboard/trackball via a utility called Synergy. However, my main "second brain" OS is macOS, and many of the programs I use for this task are included in a single monthly subscription to SettApp. I categorise these apps as follows so that I can always remember those little utilities that I only use once in a while (what you see is the Plan category). Incidently the categorisation palette below is powered by another macOS utility called Overflow. By using Overflow I'm not only able to access the palette via a single keyboard shortcut, it enables me to keep my macOS Dock clutter-free.
On the subject of utilities, my choice of macOS as my primary "second brain" OS, is primarily due to the availability of a smörgåsbord of Unix like utilities that are lightweight, focused on singular tasks, and operate pipe-like in concert. Command line users will know what I mean by pipe-like. ⌨️ 🔗
The main reason I use all three major desktop OS's in tandem is for UX testing, but it also allows me to use certain "second brain" utilities that are only available for a single OS or where a particular utility works best on a particular OS. For example, in my case, I use a Windows only filename search utility called Locate32, that indexes all my local and network drives (the indexing is superfast and happens whilst I'm sleeping). The current count of separate storage devices is 19. And as mentioned earlier, I use Recoll full-text search, but this only indexes my "second brain" data. To index more deeply would clutter the pool of data. And it goes without saying that one should aim to have the majority of their "second brain" data available as portable plain text. Where you have other text data in e.g PDF's, office document formats and suchlike, it helps if you've deep-linked into that content via Hookmark and make applicable plain text notes.
Ultimately, I'm a creative generalist in the broadest sense. And when I'm in the process of creating, I love the ability to access my "mind-palace" via the augmented reality of computing devices that have facilitated the majority of my professional life.
Ah ok, thanks for the correction. Still, velocity automation is pretty standard in DAWs, no?
A deep journey down the rabbit hole here Jon, wow, thanks for taking the time. This is a very rigorous process. I don’t think I have anywhere near this level of need but a few of these apps might be interesting. And I really should at least get in the habit of journaling every day and use even a simple system just for reviewing that. At the very least, these things are great for keeping Alzheimers at bay, which is not to be sniffed at. This kind of tech has had very damaging effects on the need to use our memory, so it’s always fascinating to think how it can also be used to improve it - as long as you make the effort, which, for me anyway, is the hard part.
Yes and no on this point. It's not the same as e.g. we no longer remember phone numbers.
If you're a visual thinker, then this type of process can actually enhance your memory. But the trick is to use strong imagery (in both written and visual form) and that helps unlock deeper links between your memories.
The reality of modern life is that we all consume and need to be able to recall a multitude more information than our ancestors. And across far more knowledge domains to boot.
But yes, my own system, which has grown organically over the last 30 years or so, appears maximal on paper. However, in practise, it doesn't get in the way (at least for me). And as I said earlier, Obsidian alone offers so much, so start there and embrace the journey. If it gets in the way, dump it and try something else instead. To bring things back to LP4iP, whatever personal knowledge management journey you start, try to give it 3/4 weeks before moving on to something new. There's always a pain barrier where things become virtually pain free on the other side - unless you lose your marbles altogether, genius & insanity and all that jazz... 🤪
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Thanks for sharing more of your setup @jonmoore. I can't function without Alfred either. It's the first thing I install on any computer. Keyboard Maestro is also becoming indispensable. Will check some of the others you shared.
As long as they don't offer one time purchase method I won't be 'renting' it, it's not a streaming service darn it!
But if they wants $200 for buying it, would you be interested?
The advantage of subscription is if you get tired of Logic Pro after three month you can cancel your subscription, but you can’t sell it if you buy it for 200 bucks…
Subscription for this fantastic Logic Pro is totally OK for me…
This! BM3 is like a vintage MPC 3000! I have an MPC One. Akai released a Moog Mini D plug-in for it ($79), recently a Juno-inspired plug-in (another $79). I just load up my Moog plug-ins and TAL-U-NO-LX (which combined cost less than 1 of Akai's plugs) in BM3 and call it a day:)
Late to the party to comment this, but…
I really think you’re wrong, but, we feels different things in different apps, and, for me, Logic Pro is by far the best that happening to my iPad (together with Pianoteq 8)…
Sure, Beatmaker 3 is great, but, if it was that good it wasn’t abandonware…
I don't think an iOS app would be sell for 200 USD that's a bit overestimate, if the price is decent why wouldn't I buy it.
@Johanso take a look in the App Store. Hammond B3X is currently going for $129. Isn’t a powerful DAW like Logic Pro worth more than a clone wheel organ (as good an emulation as it may be)?
Even if it's 200usd at least you will still own it. Instead of you use it longer than few years it's gonna cost you more than that price.
@Johanso speaking as an executive in the software industry, I can tell you that subscription models are here to stay, like it or not. They enable software companies to budget continued updates and maintenance. They also give buyers a smaller cost of entry.
It can stay I don't mind, especially for smaller/indie software developers it's beneficial, unlike major corporations like apple, idk about that. I prefer to stick with single purchase alternatives, support them by buying iap, even loopy pro has a better payment alternative than logic pro. It's not something I MUST have.
I can’t learn without visual reminders. So, while learning I need to make charts and illustrations along the way, and use colors as much as I can. For instance I did this for FF Pro-MB, not only to memorize better, but to have a cheat-sheet if I ever need to refresh knowledge.
Sorry for digression, I will leave now.
No no no…
Apples goal is probably to make iPad version of Logic Pro the same featurepacked, so, same product as Mac with the same price…
I gladly paid 130 dollar for Pianoteq on the iPad (worth every penny)!
Pro products costs money…
Nice work.
Absolutely! Graphical control of velocity is blatantly missing, just what were they thinking? I mean the per-note nature of velocity vs drawing is problematic, but having to adjust velocity for each note is pretty much unworkable to program swells etc.
Developers can submit bugs with "Feedback Assistant". It's complex we have to submit precise documentation for how to reproduce the bug including projects, videos, audio, etc, etc. Response is spotty, and usually the first few responses are "send more examples". Resolution is almost always due to multiple developers submitting similar tickets and Apple eventually just fixes it.
Soo, back to trusty piano rolls. I can’t believe this is happening and on top of this inability to export MIDIs.
In desperation tried to drag-n-drop from Helium to the Logic track, not working. But we can export clips to ‘files’ then drag-n-drop from there.
