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Just a question @Luxthor - what do you think about Helium MIDI Sequencer?
Is it worth 13 bucks?
I’ve got Atom 2, but, that Sequencer is crashing Logic Pro on iPad…
Helium, at least for me, is magnificent, you need time to get into UI, after that everything is fine.
Worth more than that money, saved me many times. But I can’t decide for anyone else, sry.
I have Atom/Atom 2, like Logic iOS they don’t have velocity automation.
Software Executives don't control that, markets do. If the model proves beneficial to consumers then it will flourish. If not competitors offering more attractive alternatives will always emerge.
"Software industry" is an awful broad term. What works for enterprise software has little to do with what works for gaming, music, and other types of software. Generalizing that subscription models are here to stay is narrow-sighted.
Am I ever going to rent Logic Pro, or any other software whatsoever? No.
Might I buy it, if that was an option? Possibly.
It's not for sale at any price on iPadOS, so...
Anybody getting less excited for logic now? I was so stoked at first but after using it for the last 3 weeks my feelings are “well I coulda lived without that”. Sure it’s good. Sculpture is amazing, the studio horns and strings and some of the effects are very nice. But I don’t find myself using it differently than I did C3 or Zenbeats. My main need for a DAW is to dump AUM jams into to master and occasionally cut up or arrange and add more. The amount of automation is nice but it’s kinda of a resounding “yeah it’s cool I guess” for me right now.
My plan now is to spend a week in LPx, a week in C3, and a week in Zenbeats, doing all the same things. If I’m able to still make everything else work (which I have so far) I’m not so sure I’ll be springing for the sub. I rely mostly on other AUV3s for synths, drums, and effects so the built in sounds don’t mean much to me anyway. I’m still in AUM for 90% of what I do, so I’m really having to convince myself to spend $5 a month to do the same things I can already do in C3 and Zenbeats which I own outright. And I’m not sure it’s worth it.
What’s everyone else’s thoughts on this? Anyone else having these thoughts on it?
I've used Logic to come up with "The Geisha" and "Desolate Wasteland". The automation is superior to any other DAW out there. And mixing and mastering audio on there is a breeze.
However, earlier today I downloaded Gadget and the rest of the Korg ecosystem to my iPad Mini 6. Trying to create a new idea in Logic Pro is so fiddly and aggravating. Creating a new idea in Gadget is a breeze, and thank goodness Korg keeps maintaining the Gadget ecosystem.
So my plan is to utilise Logic as a tool for recording vocals and tuning them with Vocal Tune Studio, and to master my audio. The internal effects are too good to not use for mastering purposes. Maybe someday I'll return to Logic as a creative environment once it matures a bit, but $5/month is worth it to me for recording and mastering.
I’ve already done things in Logic that I couldn’t—but wanted to—do in Nanostudio 2 (audio tracks), Cubasis (loop regions and time signature changes), or GarageBand (create a bus). Just to give a few examples. If an existing iPad DAW works for you, then—sure—you’ve got no reason to be excited about Logic. For me, none of the other options I’ve tried had all the features I wanted.
That’s one thing I want to really spend time with in Logic - the mastering effects. I just have so many AUs that are also good for that and I’d hate to put them to waste. And Im still iffy on the workflow. I’ll still pay for one more month to fully test it. If I end up not liking the effects more then my current plugins I may just stick with cubasis. That Automation is great though.
I definitely don’t think I like it as a songwriting environment. My workflow is more geared towards either AUM or apps like Gadget, BM3, Koala, etc.
I never used NS2 so I never missed audio tracks. Time signature changes will come in handy and separate busses is nice. Just not sure I work in DAWs enough to justify another purchase for the very few times I’ll use that. I never tried it in C3 but is LPx the only DAW on iOS that offers creation of multiple busses?
... with a larger long-term total cost of "ownership", because subscription models also enable software companies to extract more revenue from their customers. Otherwise they wouldn't do it. But as an executive in the software industry you already know that. 🙂👍
Subscription models are not inherently evil, they do have advantages but customers have every right and reason to be suspicious of them.
I’m still excited but confused at the same time. After two weeks I still don’t know where to put Logic iOS in my workflow.
My current workflow atm:
With Logic iOS I will get the third (middle?!) step, some arrangement and preparation of audio tracks from step one. It will be kind of a ‘Make’ (build automation) for everything done on iOS so it can be all exported on desktop Logic in one file.
Not at all, I started out cautiously optimistic with a tad of skepticism and have evolved to 100 percent excitement.
However I do feel that I’m not the typical iPad user Who have been supporting the iPad music making scene from the beginning…for example jammers…I think LP4i is not optimized for that workflow so perhaps only a small to moderate proportion of ABF’ers will find it useful and worth the subscription
I also think that many desktop users/producers will also take a pass on it because of lack of plugins, as well as no advantage for in studio use cases where you have multiple artists collaborating around a large screen and studio console.
Where it will resonate most is among full time performing musicians & artists who tour/travel a lot and would like to do full on productions on the plane, tour bus, hotels and so on.
So overtime LP4i will decrease in discussion on ABF and the most of energy will go back to plug into AUv3 discussion with not many people caring to talk about the DAWs as much. Perhaps the demo environment of choice for the tutorial economy will center around AUM because it seems the least fussy way to launch and display AUv3 and yammer on about them without any relation to song building lol
Based on that workflow description you might just not need to put it anywhere at all 🤷🙂
I could not find any big USP that Logic provided me for my way of doing things that would have me use it in preference to MTS for making music. MTS is very stable and already does a good amount of the stuff that Logic brings to the table so I was perhaps less excited than someone who was coming from one of the other iOS DAWs. Garageband offers quite a bit of the functionality I would find myself wanting to use Logic for.
I can see it being useful for the final bits of the music making process as a better alternative to Auria Pro (for example), but that bit of the process I either do not bother with (as I don’t release my music), or it gets done on the desktop using a more convenient interface.
I will be keeping my eye on bug fixes and new features and jump back in once it matures. I very much like the idea of having everything in the one app and so really do want it to succeed.
Yeah, that was the confusing part
. Comforting myself, it's just v.1.0. 🙊
Sounds a bit like you're looking for a problem because you already have the solution you want to apply to it 👊
No, not at all. As it is, it will be a great super tool for every kind of idea, for more audio tracks to export.
I’m all iPad so I don’t have that second step. Well I do but it’s all on iOS. Which is where LP for iPad comes in. Previously that was held by C3 and Zenbeats. I just haven’t fully decided if I’m sticking with those or not.
Yeah I get that. I’m iOS only. No desktop. So I was stoked for Logic but it ended up only offering minimal improvements for me personally and the way I use it. And $60 a year for an app I may potentially only use 1-2 times a month. I’m not sure. That said, I’m not giving up on it and I’m still planning on giving it a fair shake. I actually do like it quite a lot, I’ve just found my excitement dwindling a bit. And who know, it may click and become my go to app for mastering and refining my tracks.
That’s exactly what I’ll be using it for and what I’ve been using C3 and Zenbeats for. Basically recording my jams in AUM, dumping the stems in it, and adding some finishing touches or an extra couple of parts, loops, synths, etc to bring it to completion.
I just don’t actually work in DAWs often when it comes to making full tracks. If I did I could totally see Logic being key. And I do occasionally work that way, which is why I’m not completely giving up on it, I just have to decide if it offers more than my other DAWs for what I need.
You have been ” using it for the last 3 weeks”?
Did you run Logic Pro for iPad BEFORE the 23rd of may?
Well, some people can live without LP4i and some, like me, I love Logic on iPad and are comfortable with subscription.
Logic Pro on iPad are still in development phase, so, we will probably see a lot to be changed in coming updates.
Not sure why you seem to get so defensive when others don’t click with Logic. I get you like the app but you seem to reply like this to anyone that criticizes it in anyway. Obviously I wasn’t using it before then and I didn’t take the time to add up the exact date. I think everyone else got the gist of what I meant.
It’s not about it lacking features or the subscription that bothers me. Nothing bothers me about it, I even mentioned how much I liked it. I just don’t know if it offers more value for me than other DAWs do currently.
Not for now, but I think it’s a great plus for the iOS platform. I probably will get it though when I have more time to learn and explore it. Drambo is my current interest.
Yeah, most of the good stuff in this I can do without. Sample Alchemy, Sculpture, nice sure, but I could easily live without them. Alchemy that's just a preset player? Pass. I have lots of great synth AUv3s. Realistic drums, I generally don't care much about.
I like the keyboard surface's velocity response, but its pitch bends suck. Would love to see some dev making an auv3 equivalent. @SevenSystems with an updated auv3 Xequence Keys with touch responsive velocity as good as that in the logic keyboard. Yum yum, yes please!
For jamming and demoing apps to viewers, AUM remains king. Some youtubers will perhaps switch to logic anyway as it might help them grow their channels, but I personally will still be using AUM 80 or 90% of the time, I reckon. No ability to view UIs of more than one plugin at a time is a major bummer when it comes to demoing apps.
You basically summed up my thoughts as well. I’m still gonna give it a shot for mastering stems and jams from AUM and adding some stuff to them and might try and make a couple tracks, but DAWs don’t really fit my usual workflow that well. Multitrack recorder in aum+exporting the stems to master is more than enough for me, and with the AUs I have, I can do that within C3 as well.
As for built in instruments, besides Sculpture I can get those elsewhere and with Icegear stuff, can do a decent bit of what Sculpture can do. Also Samplr still gets updates so I don’t need Sample Alchemy either. From here I’m gonna make a jam in AUM. Dump the stems in C3, Zenbeats, and Logic and see how it goes. If I don’t find myself using any of the extra features in Logic for that, I just simply won’t need it.
The best quality of life feature in Logic for me so far is the loop recording and automatic take folder creation. This makes recording vocals and guitars so much more efficient: create a loop region, press record, and record as many takes as you need without interruption.
You can then select and/or comp from the best takes and the whole thing is super-quick. No other iOS DAW has a workflow that comes anywhere close, it's really great for capturing any kind of performance.
The multicore support is also great. The best feature in Cubasis was multicore, and the best feature in Auria was the full-featured mixer and the routing. Logic Pro has the best of both worlds. Mixing in Cubasis is crippled due to the limited audio routing, so I never really warmed to it as a DAW.
AUM is just a mixer: it's fine for jamming, but you can't use it for any kind of arranging. To create finished tracks you really need a timeline.
This seems to be the dividing line between those who like Logic Pro iPad and those who don’t. If you want hardcore DAW features like busses, takes, track markers and delay compensation, LP4i is the only option on IOS.
Those who use more of a jamming workflow may find LP4i overly and needlessly complex.
for jams you don't really need any kind of DAW
For the record, MTS also offers busses, track markers, PDC, multi-core support, changing tempos and time signatures and lots more. It doesn’t support takes in the iPad version, but for me I find Loopy Pro and its retrospective recording feature a very good option for nailing a recording.
I never got as far as looking at the comping ability of Logic. Does it improve on the Garageband takes feature? I seem to recall on desktop Logic you could pick bits of each take which I can see would be useful, though with Loopy I tend to just keep going until I get a “best” take.