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Hip Hop Drummer by Lumbeat (Released)

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  • espiegel123espiegel123

    @pax-eterna said:

    @espiegel123 said:

    @pax-eterna said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @pax-eterna said:
    TBH, I used to be a follower of the complaint that the developer could not be bothered to create AU versions. But really, it's his decision. You need to find a work-around or find something else.

    I have found now that with Mozaic , it is pretty much exactly the same as an AUv3 . I can create whatever I need the Lumbeat drum app to be and do and then it loads as that when the AUM session loads. I've got around 200 Sessions and counting :)

    The only downside, and it is pretty big, is that with all 5 open (soon to be 6 with Hip Hop) the CPU hovers up around 70% (it's only an iPad MINI Gen5) and sometimes the audio crashes (haha in a BIG noisy way!)

    But that's the price of doing business as they say... these are unique apps and there is NOTHING like them (believe me I have looked long and hard and spent many $'s trying) .

    I will soon buy a new mini with the M2 chip ( when it happens) and I reckon that will solve the crashing issue.

    But folks (and this is from a former ally) this horse has been flogged into a rug, so stop beating!!!

    Can you please explain how you are using Mozaic for this? Sounds interesting

    well, you can select via MIDI, the pattern beat and kit in Lumbeat, so I simply use a script that sends those three messages CC0, CC32 and PC. Mozaic sends that to the app when the session loads. Only thing I cannot do is send the tempo as Lumbeat has no option for this . Only tap tempo. Pretty useless when playing live which is how I use them.

    If you use Ableton Link, the tempo gets updated automatically if you set it in your host (or if you slave to MIDI clock). Since you are using AUM, set the tempo in AUM and the LUMBeat app will pick it up.

    ahh thx cool tip. Never used that link function tbh. Although I do have the tempo set in AUM for the sessions, albeit I have to actually use the "PLAY" tab in AUM to transfer the tempo. Which is not all that useful as I need to have the actual app (as the particular drum app) open when it starts. Will that link do that?

    Changing tempo in AUM even if the transport isn’t running will change the tempo in all Ableton link synched apps. It is very different from midi clock in that way.

  • shinyisshinyshinyisshiny

    i bought it, and to answer my own question, yes, it does work on M1 desktop, and it does export WAV and midi. Its an incredible app, truly captured that J Dilla swing.

  • FordTimeLordFordTimeLord

    Doug’s done a video on it now 👍

  • ervinervin

    @AlmostAnonymous said:

    Having it loaded (or any IAA) in a host is when things get unstable for me over time. It’s fine for some quick sampling, but inevitably the IAA crashes :(

    By that measure, Playbeat and Loopmix are great honorary IAA apps 😉

  • DhamDham

    @gusgranite said:
    I have been a big advocate for AUv3 over the years but, once you accept that it’s just not currently possible in the Lumbeat framework, there really is nothing else on iOS like this.

    If you love beats then you’re going to have a lot of fun with this. The sounds, the patterns, the fills, the swing per track. Sample preview is a really nice workflow addition. I solo individual tracks using the mixer and then bounce to audio and then layer other patterns on and bounce again etc.

    I will have more fun with this than any new AUv3 compressor or EQ etc.

    I agree 100%! MIDI export of beats imported into Logic works fabulously!

    Also with the KQ Voice Loopback utility using IAA instruments within Logic Pro is now possible:)

  • GavinskiGavinski

    Streaming Hip Hop Drummer with absolutely zero latency from AUM to Logic using KQ Voice Loopback plugin. Brilliant! See this thread:

    https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/56388/vid-giveaway-how-to-use-stream-lumbeat-hip-hop-drummer-to-logic-pro-with-zero-latency#latest

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  • pax-eternapax-eterna

    @espiegel123 said:

    @pax-eterna said:

    @espiegel123 said:

    @pax-eterna said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @pax-eterna said:
    TBH, I used to be a follower of the complaint that the developer could not be bothered to create AU versions. But really, it's his decision. You need to find a work-around or find something else.

    I have found now that with Mozaic , it is pretty much exactly the same as an AUv3 . I can create whatever I need the Lumbeat drum app to be and do and then it loads as that when the AUM session loads. I've got around 200 Sessions and counting :)

    The only downside, and it is pretty big, is that with all 5 open (soon to be 6 with Hip Hop) the CPU hovers up around 70% (it's only an iPad MINI Gen5) and sometimes the audio crashes (haha in a BIG noisy way!)

    But that's the price of doing business as they say... these are unique apps and there is NOTHING like them (believe me I have looked long and hard and spent many $'s trying) .

    I will soon buy a new mini with the M2 chip ( when it happens) and I reckon that will solve the crashing issue.

    But folks (and this is from a former ally) this horse has been flogged into a rug, so stop beating!!!

    Can you please explain how you are using Mozaic for this? Sounds interesting

    well, you can select via MIDI, the pattern beat and kit in Lumbeat, so I simply use a script that sends those three messages CC0, CC32 and PC. Mozaic sends that to the app when the session loads. Only thing I cannot do is send the tempo as Lumbeat has no option for this . Only tap tempo. Pretty useless when playing live which is how I use them.

    If you use Ableton Link, the tempo gets updated automatically if you set it in your host (or if you slave to MIDI clock). Since you are using AUM, set the tempo in AUM and the LUMBeat app will pick it up.

    ahh thx cool tip. Never used that link function tbh. Although I do have the tempo set in AUM for the sessions, albeit I have to actually use the "PLAY" tab in AUM to transfer the tempo. Which is not all that useful as I need to have the actual app (as the particular drum app) open when it starts. Will that link do that?

    Changing tempo in AUM even if the transport isn’t running will change the tempo in all Ableton link synched apps. It is very different from midi clock in that way.

    Thx!

  • pax-eternapax-eterna
    edited June 2023

    hmmm, could be a biggie for me I'm afraid - NO fill to variation (which is the Fill and switch Hats/Ride) tab! Why oh why did it get removed! This alone will probs cause me to refund the app!

  • erosseross

    so will this app send midi out in real-time? i’d like to send each drum hit to some of my other drum apps. i see a midi out section, but it does t look like it is sending any midi out

  • FordTimeLordFordTimeLord

    @eross said:
    so will this app send midi out in real-time? i’d like to send each drum hit to some of my other drum apps. i see a midi out section, but it does t look like it is sending any midi out

    Yep, it can send midi. You need to turn on the ‘send notes’ button 👍

  • audiblevideoaudiblevideo

    This forum has mostly good sense and taste, except for the pages of absolutism and complaining that any app isn’t AUV3. See half of this thread.

    I love this app and his other drum apps. A lot of thought, programming and flexibility was put into each one so they function well and integrate with the patchwork that is iOS music production.

    Viva la Lumbeats and HipHop drummer the swing and sounds are dope.

  • espiegel123espiegel123

    @pax-eterna said:
    hmmm, could be a biggie for me I'm afraid - NO fill to variation (which is the Fill and switch Hats/Ride) tab! Why oh why did it get removed! This alone will probs cause me to refund the app!

    Not all his apps have a rides/hat switch -- probably as switching between hats and ride isn't as much a part of those styles. There is a fill button.

  • pax-eternapax-eterna
    edited June 2023

    @espiegel123 said:

    @pax-eterna said:
    hmmm, could be a biggie for me I'm afraid - NO fill to variation (which is the Fill and switch Hats/Ride) tab! Why oh why did it get removed! This alone will probs cause me to refund the app!

    Not all his apps have a rides/hat switch -- probably as switching between hats and ride isn't as much a part of those styles. There is a fill button.

    Yeah I noticed that...tbh the only one that doesn't (up til now) is Afro Drummer.. all the rest do. Oh well, not the first work-around needed for a Lumbeat app hahaha!

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    edited June 2023
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  • RJBRJB

    I find getting midi out of Lumbeat apps is iffy at best, not having any luck getting their midi into Logic Pro

  • wimwim

    @RJB said:
    I find getting midi out of Lumbeat apps is iffy at best, not having any luck getting their midi into Logic Pro

    Do you have the "Note Output" button engaged? It defaults to Off.

  • JohnnyGoodyearJohnnyGoodyear

    @espiegel123 said:

    @Ailerom said:
    Honestly, I've had enough of companies that clearly don't care about what customers want. I may be wrong but there's no way to really know. I think auv3 is a pretty standard requirement. Most developers get it. To release a plugin today that only has IAA seems like an attempt to fleece customers out of more money while they can. Until Lumbeat show that they hear the request for auv3 and show that it is something they are capable of implementing I don't feel I can spend another cent on them. I like what they do but they don't seem to be listening. Disagree if you like but understand this is really how I personally feel.

    There’s no fleecing going on. Maybe he cares about and simply can’t afford to accommodate those that require AU versions.

    If you don’t want standalone apps, don’t buy them. People can steer clear if they don’t want standalone or IAA apps.

    Fleecing implies dishonesty. There is no evidence of that here.

    People that scream about developers not caring certainly have no idea how much money a developer like LUMBEATS earns or how much work would be involved in creating an AUv3 version. Remember that his framework has been around a long time. It is very different to totally revamp a framework developed ages ago for a standalone than to start a new one knowing that it will have to run as a plugin. Lots of developers of standalone apps have found it impractical to make them into AU.

    He may simply have decided that he wouldn’t receive a reasonable return and that there are still enough people interested in his apps to release new ones.

    He has been open about looking into AUv3 and not having found a feasible way to rewrite the apps as AU.

    The bad intentions some are ascribing seem unkind at best.

    Well said.

  • JohnnyGoodyearJohnnyGoodyear

    @McD said:
    There isn’t another IOS app that can make these sounds… LUMBeats always nails the selected Genre. For folks like me that own the whole collection, we’re learned to work around the lack of AUv3. The most important detail with AUv3 for me is usually hailing multiple instances.

    I’d imagine that targeting a new genre and focusing on getting the sounds and patterns correct is key to seeing a new LUMBeats app. People keep buying them and many won’t but at $18 its probably worth making new apps and hopefully a fulfilling creative exercise. Most of us don’t make music expecting to make money and I’m sure there are developers that do it for the creative outlet and some extra income. Telling them how they could make more money by taking on a technical task they don’t look forward too can often fall on deaf ears. I think it’s clear this is one of those cases. Let it go. Find your Hip Hop options elsewhere. I’ll just export audio loops into Logic Pro, Staffpad and use IAA in AUM. In the end it’s how it sounds and NOT just
    How it’s made.

    I’m sure there are die hard Xequence users that accept that @SevenSystems just doesn’t want to bust his brain against the AUv3 specs and docs. He rather add new features since he’s not just the programmer… he’s a user too.

    +1

  • pax-eternapax-eterna

    @espiegel123 said:

    @pax-eterna said:

    @espiegel123 said:

    @pax-eterna said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @pax-eterna said:
    TBH, I used to be a follower of the complaint that the developer could not be bothered to create AU versions. But really, it's his decision. You need to find a work-around or find something else.

    I have found now that with Mozaic , it is pretty much exactly the same as an AUv3 . I can create whatever I need the Lumbeat drum app to be and do and then it loads as that when the AUM session loads. I've got around 200 Sessions and counting :)

    The only downside, and it is pretty big, is that with all 5 open (soon to be 6 with Hip Hop) the CPU hovers up around 70% (it's only an iPad MINI Gen5) and sometimes the audio crashes (haha in a BIG noisy way!)

    But that's the price of doing business as they say... these are unique apps and there is NOTHING like them (believe me I have looked long and hard and spent many $'s trying) .

    I will soon buy a new mini with the M2 chip ( when it happens) and I reckon that will solve the crashing issue.

    But folks (and this is from a former ally) this horse has been flogged into a rug, so stop beating!!!

    Can you please explain how you are using Mozaic for this? Sounds interesting

    well, you can select via MIDI, the pattern beat and kit in Lumbeat, so I simply use a script that sends those three messages CC0, CC32 and PC. Mozaic sends that to the app when the session loads. Only thing I cannot do is send the tempo as Lumbeat has no option for this . Only tap tempo. Pretty useless when playing live which is how I use them.

    If you use Ableton Link, the tempo gets updated automatically if you set it in your host (or if you slave to MIDI clock). Since you are using AUM, set the tempo in AUM and the LUMBeat app will pick it up.

    ahh thx cool tip. Never used that link function tbh. Although I do have the tempo set in AUM for the sessions, albeit I have to actually use the "PLAY" tab in AUM to transfer the tempo. Which is not all that useful as I need to have the actual app (as the particular drum app) open when it starts. Will that link do that?

    Changing tempo in AUM even if the transport isn’t running will change the tempo in all Ableton link synched apps. It is very different from midi clock in that way.

    Not sure how this works - I set the Ableton Link to on, select the session in AUM but the tempo in the drum app does not change I still have to manually tap the play button in AUM, top left, for it to change the tempo in Lumbeat drummer. Essentially I need AUM to send the Tempo and the Mozaic stuff on song load as I run the live work direct from the drum app, including stop/start. The Mozaic stuff is fine, the tempo is not!

  • RJBRJB

    @wim said:

    @RJB said:
    I find getting midi out of Lumbeat apps is iffy at best, not having any luck getting their midi into Logic Pro

    Do you have the "Note Output" button engaged? It defaults to Off.

    Yes, Note Output is on. I’m trying to get the Midi out of Indian drummer playing in AUM into Logic Pro directly. Can’t seem to find the flow. If I record it in Atom2 first, and then play that in AUM, i can get it to logic pro. Just can’t figure out a way their directly

  • espiegel123espiegel123

    @pax-eterna said:

    @espiegel123 said:

    @pax-eterna said:

    @espiegel123 said:

    @pax-eterna said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @pax-eterna said:
    TBH, I used to be a follower of the complaint that the developer could not be bothered to create AU versions. But really, it's his decision. You need to find a work-around or find something else.

    I have found now that with Mozaic , it is pretty much exactly the same as an AUv3 . I can create whatever I need the Lumbeat drum app to be and do and then it loads as that when the AUM session loads. I've got around 200 Sessions and counting :)

    The only downside, and it is pretty big, is that with all 5 open (soon to be 6 with Hip Hop) the CPU hovers up around 70% (it's only an iPad MINI Gen5) and sometimes the audio crashes (haha in a BIG noisy way!)

    But that's the price of doing business as they say... these are unique apps and there is NOTHING like them (believe me I have looked long and hard and spent many $'s trying) .

    I will soon buy a new mini with the M2 chip ( when it happens) and I reckon that will solve the crashing issue.

    But folks (and this is from a former ally) this horse has been flogged into a rug, so stop beating!!!

    Can you please explain how you are using Mozaic for this? Sounds interesting

    well, you can select via MIDI, the pattern beat and kit in Lumbeat, so I simply use a script that sends those three messages CC0, CC32 and PC. Mozaic sends that to the app when the session loads. Only thing I cannot do is send the tempo as Lumbeat has no option for this . Only tap tempo. Pretty useless when playing live which is how I use them.

    If you use Ableton Link, the tempo gets updated automatically if you set it in your host (or if you slave to MIDI clock). Since you are using AUM, set the tempo in AUM and the LUMBeat app will pick it up.

    ahh thx cool tip. Never used that link function tbh. Although I do have the tempo set in AUM for the sessions, albeit I have to actually use the "PLAY" tab in AUM to transfer the tempo. Which is not all that useful as I need to have the actual app (as the particular drum app) open when it starts. Will that link do that?

    Changing tempo in AUM even if the transport isn’t running will change the tempo in all Ableton link synched apps. It is very different from midi clock in that way.

    Not sure how this works - I set the Ableton Link to on, select the session in AUM but the tempo in the drum app does not change I still have to manually tap the play button in AUM, top left, for it to change the tempo in Lumbeat drummer. Essentially I need AUM to send the Tempo and the Mozaic stuff on song load as I run the live work direct from the drum app, including stop/start. The Mozaic stuff is fine, the tempo is not!

    Is Ableton link on in both apps? Set the tempo in either app while both apps are open and both will have the same tempo. Is that not the case for you?

  • pax-eternapax-eterna
    edited June 2023

    @espiegel123 said:

    @pax-eterna said:

    @espiegel123 said:

    @pax-eterna said:

    @espiegel123 said:

    @pax-eterna said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @pax-eterna said:
    TBH, I used to be a follower of the complaint that the developer could not be bothered to create AU versions. But really, it's his decision. You need to find a work-around or find something else.

    I have found now that with Mozaic , it is pretty much exactly the same as an AUv3 . I can create whatever I need the Lumbeat drum app to be and do and then it loads as that when the AUM session loads. I've got around 200 Sessions and counting :)

    The only downside, and it is pretty big, is that with all 5 open (soon to be 6 with Hip Hop) the CPU hovers up around 70% (it's only an iPad MINI Gen5) and sometimes the audio crashes (haha in a BIG noisy way!)

    But that's the price of doing business as they say... these are unique apps and there is NOTHING like them (believe me I have looked long and hard and spent many $'s trying) .

    I will soon buy a new mini with the M2 chip ( when it happens) and I reckon that will solve the crashing issue.

    But folks (and this is from a former ally) this horse has been flogged into a rug, so stop beating!!!

    Can you please explain how you are using Mozaic for this? Sounds interesting

    well, you can select via MIDI, the pattern beat and kit in Lumbeat, so I simply use a script that sends those three messages CC0, CC32 and PC. Mozaic sends that to the app when the session loads. Only thing I cannot do is send the tempo as Lumbeat has no option for this . Only tap tempo. Pretty useless when playing live which is how I use them.

    If you use Ableton Link, the tempo gets updated automatically if you set it in your host (or if you slave to MIDI clock). Since you are using AUM, set the tempo in AUM and the LUMBeat app will pick it up.

    ahh thx cool tip. Never used that link function tbh. Although I do have the tempo set in AUM for the sessions, albeit I have to actually use the "PLAY" tab in AUM to transfer the tempo. Which is not all that useful as I need to have the actual app (as the particular drum app) open when it starts. Will that link do that?

    Changing tempo in AUM even if the transport isn’t running will change the tempo in all Ableton link synched apps. It is very different from midi clock in that way.

    Not sure how this works - I set the Ableton Link to on, select the session in AUM but the tempo in the drum app does not change I still have to manually tap the play button in AUM, top left, for it to change the tempo in Lumbeat drummer. Essentially I need AUM to send the Tempo and the Mozaic stuff on song load as I run the live work direct from the drum app, including stop/start. The Mozaic stuff is fine, the tempo is not!

    Is Ableton link on in both apps? Set the tempo in either app while both apps are open and both will have the same tempo. Is that not the case for you?

    I just assumed it was on in AUM automatically - I'll check

    EDIT: I found the setting in AUM and got it working, but is there a way to stop that confirmation message that pops up every session load?

    and a small dotted line keeps cycling under the tempo bar, AND the drum aps now have this weird countdown when I press play??

  • espiegel123espiegel123

    @pax-eterna said:

    @espiegel123 said:

    @pax-eterna said:

    @espiegel123 said:

    @pax-eterna said:

    @espiegel123 said:

    @pax-eterna said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @pax-eterna said:
    TBH, I used to be a follower of the complaint that the developer could not be bothered to create AU versions. But really, it's his decision. You need to find a work-around or find something else.

    I have found now that with Mozaic , it is pretty much exactly the same as an AUv3 . I can create whatever I need the Lumbeat drum app to be and do and then it loads as that when the AUM session loads. I've got around 200 Sessions and counting :)

    The only downside, and it is pretty big, is that with all 5 open (soon to be 6 with Hip Hop) the CPU hovers up around 70% (it's only an iPad MINI Gen5) and sometimes the audio crashes (haha in a BIG noisy way!)

    But that's the price of doing business as they say... these are unique apps and there is NOTHING like them (believe me I have looked long and hard and spent many $'s trying) .

    I will soon buy a new mini with the M2 chip ( when it happens) and I reckon that will solve the crashing issue.

    But folks (and this is from a former ally) this horse has been flogged into a rug, so stop beating!!!

    Can you please explain how you are using Mozaic for this? Sounds interesting

    well, you can select via MIDI, the pattern beat and kit in Lumbeat, so I simply use a script that sends those three messages CC0, CC32 and PC. Mozaic sends that to the app when the session loads. Only thing I cannot do is send the tempo as Lumbeat has no option for this . Only tap tempo. Pretty useless when playing live which is how I use them.

    If you use Ableton Link, the tempo gets updated automatically if you set it in your host (or if you slave to MIDI clock). Since you are using AUM, set the tempo in AUM and the LUMBeat app will pick it up.

    ahh thx cool tip. Never used that link function tbh. Although I do have the tempo set in AUM for the sessions, albeit I have to actually use the "PLAY" tab in AUM to transfer the tempo. Which is not all that useful as I need to have the actual app (as the particular drum app) open when it starts. Will that link do that?

    Changing tempo in AUM even if the transport isn’t running will change the tempo in all Ableton link synched apps. It is very different from midi clock in that way.

    Not sure how this works - I set the Ableton Link to on, select the session in AUM but the tempo in the drum app does not change I still have to manually tap the play button in AUM, top left, for it to change the tempo in Lumbeat drummer. Essentially I need AUM to send the Tempo and the Mozaic stuff on song load as I run the live work direct from the drum app, including stop/start. The Mozaic stuff is fine, the tempo is not!

    Is Ableton link on in both apps? Set the tempo in either app while both apps are open and both will have the same tempo. Is that not the case for you?

    I just assumed it was on in AUM automatically - I'll check

    EDIT: I found the setting in AUM and got it working, but is there a way to stop that confirmation message that pops up every session load?

    and a small dotted line keeps cycling under the tempo bar, AND the drum aps now have this weird countdown when I press play??

    The way Ableton link works is that its clock is always running. When you press start, clients start at the beginning of the next measure.

  • pax-eternapax-eterna
    edited June 2023

    @espiegel123 said:

    @pax-eterna said:

    @espiegel123 said:

    @pax-eterna said:

    @espiegel123 said:

    @pax-eterna said:

    @espiegel123 said:

    @pax-eterna said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @pax-eterna said:
    TBH, I used to be a follower of the complaint that the developer could not be bothered to create AU versions. But really, it's his decision. You need to find a work-around or find something else.

    I have found now that with Mozaic , it is pretty much exactly the same as an AUv3 . I can create whatever I need the Lumbeat drum app to be and do and then it loads as that when the AUM session loads. I've got around 200 Sessions and counting :)

    The only downside, and it is pretty big, is that with all 5 open (soon to be 6 with Hip Hop) the CPU hovers up around 70% (it's only an iPad MINI Gen5) and sometimes the audio crashes (haha in a BIG noisy way!)

    But that's the price of doing business as they say... these are unique apps and there is NOTHING like them (believe me I have looked long and hard and spent many $'s trying) .

    I will soon buy a new mini with the M2 chip ( when it happens) and I reckon that will solve the crashing issue.

    But folks (and this is from a former ally) this horse has been flogged into a rug, so stop beating!!!

    Can you please explain how you are using Mozaic for this? Sounds interesting

    well, you can select via MIDI, the pattern beat and kit in Lumbeat, so I simply use a script that sends those three messages CC0, CC32 and PC. Mozaic sends that to the app when the session loads. Only thing I cannot do is send the tempo as Lumbeat has no option for this . Only tap tempo. Pretty useless when playing live which is how I use them.

    If you use Ableton Link, the tempo gets updated automatically if you set it in your host (or if you slave to MIDI clock). Since you are using AUM, set the tempo in AUM and the LUMBeat app will pick it up.

    ahh thx cool tip. Never used that link function tbh. Although I do have the tempo set in AUM for the sessions, albeit I have to actually use the "PLAY" tab in AUM to transfer the tempo. Which is not all that useful as I need to have the actual app (as the particular drum app) open when it starts. Will that link do that?

    Changing tempo in AUM even if the transport isn’t running will change the tempo in all Ableton link synched apps. It is very different from midi clock in that way.

    Not sure how this works - I set the Ableton Link to on, select the session in AUM but the tempo in the drum app does not change I still have to manually tap the play button in AUM, top left, for it to change the tempo in Lumbeat drummer. Essentially I need AUM to send the Tempo and the Mozaic stuff on song load as I run the live work direct from the drum app, including stop/start. The Mozaic stuff is fine, the tempo is not!

    Is Ableton link on in both apps? Set the tempo in either app while both apps are open and both will have the same tempo. Is that not the case for you?

    I just assumed it was on in AUM automatically - I'll check

    EDIT: I found the setting in AUM and got it working, but is there a way to stop that confirmation message that pops up every session load?

    and a small dotted line keeps cycling under the tempo bar, AND the drum aps now have this weird countdown when I press play??

    The way Ableton link works is that its clock is always running. When you press start, clients start at the beginning of the next measure.

    ok cool, thanks - the other thing I think seems to be unique to Soft Drummer...none of the others seem to have the same issue...

    nope it DOES it on other apps too. This link thing aint gonna work :( every time I stop the drum app, it does this countdown before it starts and no, intro is NOT on in the drum app. When I play live I start and stop the drums all the time during songs, having to wait 4 beats before the drums start is just dumb!

  • wimwim
    edited June 2023

    @pax-eterna - you don't need Link for this. If the Lumbeats app is in AUM, it will start, stop, and sync automatically with AUM without Link or even Midi Clock. You just need to hit play in AUM rather than in the Lumbeats app. Midi learn the transport in AUM if you want to start it from a controller.

    This sync method is called IAA Sync and it should just work. Be sure that other forms of sync (MIDI Clock and Link) are off in the Lumbeats apps. Disable Link in AUM as well to avoid the wait for a bar beginning to come around.

    Yes, the tempo won't be set in the Lumbeats app until you hit play in AUM, but unless there's some overriding reason why you have to hit play in the drummer app rather than in AUM this should work.

    If there's some reason you have to hit play only in the drummer app rather than AUM, then you're out of luck. In that case you need to use another host such as Loopy Pro or Audiobus that can follow MIDI Clock.

  • espiegel123espiegel123
    edited June 2023

    @wim : he was asking for a way to set the lumbeat tempo without starting AUM’s transport (and without using tap tempo)

  • wimwim
    edited June 2023

    @espiegel123 said:
    @wim : he was asking for a way to set the lumbeat tempo without starting AUM’s transport.

    I know, but that's gonna need a re-think. Surely there has to be some workable way to send start to AUM's transport. A controller button, a message from his chart reader app (I think he's using one), or something. Link was a good plan, but the sync quantum isn't acceptable 🤷🏼‍♂️. So, time to explore other ideas.

    This thread may not be the best place to do that. It isn't the only one on this Lumbeats topic.

  • pax-eternapax-eterna

    yeah I agree and sorry did not mean to hijack. I'll keep trying and if I get no joy I'll create another thread.

  • wimwim
    edited June 2023

    @pax-eterna said:
    yeah I agree and sorry did not mean to hijack. I'll keep trying and if I get no joy I'll create another thread.

    It's been a long journey. I admire your persistence. I'm sure there's an answer out there and that you'll find something that works for you eventually. 👍🏼

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