If there’s a worse song than this…

Fingolfinzz

Here’s a really bad song sprinkled with a lot of delusion. Real Housewives produces some gems

cyberheater

@Fingolfinzz said:
Here’s a really bad song sprinkled with a lot of delusion. Real Housewives produces some gems

It could do with a tad more autotune.

And yes. It’s terrible.

Aliyaaii

@Fingolfinzz said:
Here’s a really bad song sprinkled with a lot of delusion. Real Housewives produces some gems

This song is a prime example of delusion meets desperation. While Real Housewives may have its moments of entertainment, this track falls flat with its lackluster lyrics and cringe-worthy melody.

PDK

My favourite TV’s Real Housewives moments are before any of it existed, and when it’s not in any way visually or audibly detectable.

Absolute pile of wank, if you ask me 😉🍻

setAI

The "Outsider" concept doesn't really work for music since music has been largely democratized for decades anyway. Most musicians now self-release without access to studios or labels, unlike visual arts which are largely controlled by the fine art market, so you need an outsider category there. Music is mostly "outsider".

dendy

This is for me literally worst music i ever heard in my life .. there is just everything wrong - lyrics, music, video, everything .. 🤮 I can’t believe somebody likes this junk…

If i should choose between listening 10 hours straight this song and 10 hours of pure white noise, i would choose white noise.

michael_m

@cyberheater said:

@Fingolfinzz said:
Here’s a really bad song sprinkled with a lot of delusion. Real Housewives produces some gems

It could do with a tad more autotune.

I think it could do with a tad more flamethrower if you ask me.

NeuM

@dendy said:
This is for me literally worst music i ever heard in my life .. there is just everything wrong - lyrics, music, video, everything .. 🤮 I can’t believe somebody likes this junk…

If i should choose between listening 10 hours straight this song and 10 hours of pure white noise, i would choose white noise.

It’s utter crap, but paying audiences decide what wins in the ”music” market. Sometimes garbage rises to the top, not the cream. 🤷🏻‍♂️

Fingolfinzz

@Aliyaaii said:
@Fingolfinzz said:
Here’s a really bad song sprinkled with a lot of delusion. Real Housewives produces some gems

This song is a prime example of delusion meets desperation. While Real Housewives may have its moments of entertainment, this track falls flat with its lackluster lyrics and cringe-worthy melody.

Yeah it’s an absolutely pathetic attempt at a song. The producer fucking loved her cos he had to spend months and months on that one song so he probably got a fat payday from her

JeffChasteen

@purpan2 said:

@Johne1 said:
https://youtu.be/tRwYQgk05DY

This song has been given the title, Worse Song Ever, before. Mind you, it’s been a few years.

“I left the cake out in the rain…”. Huhhh???

Macarthur Park is brilliant imho.

I always think of McArthur Park to be very similar to River Deep, Mountain High.
In both cases, it is so difficult to pull off and realize that great song.
IMO, Donna Summer has done the best realization of McArthur Park while Celine Dion did an amazing live version of River Deep, Mountain High on late night TV.

Confession: The Flamin’ Groovies cover of River Deep, Mountain High is a sentimental favorite of mine.

michael_m

@JeffChasteen said:
Celine Dion did an amazing live version of River Deep, Mountain High on late night TV.

That surprises me considering how many good (and sometimes great) versions of this song exist.

Her performances just leave me cold. She has a powerful voice and pitches really well, but everything she does seems over-rehearsed and corny.

JeffChasteen

@rottencat said:
And then there was that time The Clash used synths.

I saw this tour on the same night that I saw Black Flag, Meat Puppets, and Nig Heist.
While I did like “The Cla$h’s” use of scattered video monitors showing Chuck Berry and Bo Diddly, they were a distant second to the SST bands.

It was quite sad in a way.

JeffChasteen

@jwmmakerofmusic said:
Okay, fine, for those who know of this song's existence, you already know.

I have friends who once had a Shaggs tribute act. They were accomplished musicians and to had to work at mimicking the idiosyncrasies/ineptitude of the Wiggins sisters. It wasn’t easy.

I compare that to trying to mimic some of Bob Dylan’s more egregious harmonica parts. One’s “musical ” sense takes over and tries to give form to Dylan’s seemingly deliberate cacophony.

jwmmakerofmusic

@JeffChasteen said:

@jwmmakerofmusic said:
Okay, fine, for those who know of this song's existence, you already know.

I have friends who once had a Shaggs tribute act. They were accomplished musicians and to had to work at mimicking the idiosyncrasies/ineptitude of the Wiggins sisters. It wasn’t easy.

I compare that to trying to mimic some of Bob Dylan’s more egregious harmonica parts. One’s “musical ” sense takes over and tries to give form to Dylan’s seemingly deliberate cacophony.

Exactly. I think earlier in this thread, I rerouted my thinking that the Shaggs were not good musicians into that this cacaphony is valid music, and I've come to appreciate the Shaggs ever since.

cyberheater

@dendy said:
This is for me literally worst music i ever heard in my life .. there is just everything wrong - lyrics, music, video, everything .. 🤮 I can’t believe somebody likes this junk…

If i should choose between listening 10 hours straight this song and 10 hours of pure white noise, i would choose white noise.

Utterly awful. I choose white noise too.

michael_m

@JeffChasteen said:

@jwmmakerofmusic said:
Okay, fine, for those who know of this song's existence, you already know.

I have friends who once had a Shaggs tribute act. They were accomplished musicians and to had to work at mimicking the idiosyncrasies/ineptitude of the Wiggins sisters. It wasn’t easy.

I can’t imagine how difficult that must have been, and how painful it must have been to play if they detuned guitars to the same extent.

Hope they were appreciated for their dedication!

JeffChasteen

@Svetlovska said:
There is ‘bad’. And then there is outsider.

Now I have read the real life backstory of The Shaggs. It is so dark,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Shaggs,

it makes the ‘evil’ posturing of the metal bands here look like nursery tales by comparison. At least The Jackson 5, for example, who had a reportedly similar controlling father, seemed to flourish and want their success at some level… not so The Shaggs. Hard to imagine the misery and humiliations of their childhood circumstances. And yet from this crucible something emerged…

As noted above, true ‘outsider’ art like theirs is rare, because it escapes the boundaries of just naff/camp/bad/poorly executed or tasteless. It beams in from another place, with an internal logic all its own, which renders conventional aesthetic judgment or the usual yardsticks of performance, skill, etcetera against which familiar forms are judged, entirely irrelevant.

Outsider art can only be recognised, not judged. It has an authenticity, an honesty, a direct mainline to the wellspring, which cannot be appropriated or replicated. That no regular artist, however skilled, can access. Which is why they recognise it, and at some level, envy it. Jarvis Cocker, that very tasteful and accomplished product of an art school, has long been a champion of (literal) outsider artists.

It is savant stuff, and the utter unfakeable sui generis-ity of it, in visual arts or in music, makes it uniquely compelling in a way which something just plain bad never can.

While they are decidedly absurd, their story is profoundly tragic. I may have said before that this is like some weird true-life New England gothic tale. (surely Hawthorne and Shirley Jackson don’t hold an exclusive copyright on the genre, do they?)

Another band tale that is tragic AND horrifying concerns Roky Erickson’s time in Rusk State Mental Hospital. Erickson was only in there for marijuana and possible schizophrenia (which was certainly exacerbated by the “treatment” he received while at Rusk.
Erickson put together a band called The Missing Links. Besides himself, the band included a family annihilator (teen killed mother, father, sister), a child-killer, a child-molester, and another murderer.
The Missing Links never recorded, but they did leave the hospital a couple of times in order to appear on local Texas music television programs. Currently, none of the videotapes have been found.

JeffChasteen

@musikeer said:
The Kars for Kids jingle is devil's music.

@michael_m said:

@JeffChasteen said:
Celine Dion did an amazing live version of River Deep, Mountain High on late night TV.

That surprises me considering how many good (and sometimes great) versions of this song exist.

Her performances just leave me cold. She has a powerful voice and pitches really well, but everything she does seems over-rehearsed and corny.

I was shocked.
It was powerful and raw.
Evidently, Phil Spector saw that same late night performance— I want to say Letterman, but can’t swear to it— anyway, Spector and Dion subsequently did a session together.
Unsurprising, it didn’t see the light of day.

Ailerom

cyberheater

@Ailerom said:

I got to the chorus and had to stop. I don’t get it. Have they not heard of auto tune.

dendy

@Ailerom said:

This is not plain bad, not like disgusting-vommiting -inducing bad (like cardi b / megan thee stalion music), this one is actually hillariously bad, laughing hard on this 😂😂😂😂 More of such stuff please 🤣🤣🤣

Ailerom

cyberheater

@Ailerom said:

I might be wrong but I don’t think you can say “Jesus Christ is an -insert N word-”. 😂

Ailerom

Ailerom

PDK

Holy f……

Ailerom

el_bo

jwmmakerofmusic

@Ailerom said:

🤣 I've watched quite a few reaction videos to this one. Some reactors purposefully overreacted and you could tell they were putting on. Other reactors were genuinely shocked, and those were the funniest. When I first saw it years ago, I laughed and said "White people can't say that." 😂

However, I think this video was a troll video made like 12 years ago to look like a "cool, hip" out-of-touch outreach video from the early 90s.

michael_m

@JeffChasteen said:

@musikeer said:
The Kars for Kids jingle is devil's music.

@michael_m said:

@JeffChasteen said:
Celine Dion did an amazing live version of River Deep, Mountain High on late night TV.

That surprises me considering how many good (and sometimes great) versions of this song exist.

Her performances just leave me cold. She has a powerful voice and pitches really well, but everything she does seems over-rehearsed and corny.

I was shocked.
It was powerful and raw.
Evidently, Phil Spector saw that same late night performance— I want to say Letterman, but can’t swear to it— anyway, Spector and Dion subsequently did a session together.
Unsurprising, it didn’t see the light of day.

Not surprised you were shocked - I would never have thought her capable of doing anything that could be described as ‘raw’.