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I understand just fine…They can make that claim, but I can’t make a counter? You don’t understand my friend…
We are all different…that’s awesome! No we just have feature sets and the people who pick because of them.
Yea if anyone knows this, it’s me… and you know what? If he would add the damn audio tracks I would be somewhat with you. I will never be totally on board of course, as this would bring you so much joy…I must rob all of that I can…it’s a hobby.
This must be the line of coc@ine you tooted before the next part?
I would never drag you, as that is rude. Yea you mislabel stuff…to me, gadget and nanostudio are groove boxes…that’s about it.
Reason 1 was a groovebox too. Would you call grooverider (gr-16)a Daw? I really upset you with DAWmpler didn’t I? Hahaha that’s awesome. Yea it is your right to be ignorant. See in the end I agree with you.
This place was warm and friendly? When?
By the way…read your Eulas on the apps you think you own…you don’t
Have a great evening
…and that’s because they suck…
…and if “i like zenbeats” was what was said, I probably wouldn’t have responded at all.
Imagine if you could only use the Daw itself to do it all…even audio tracks…no plug ins
Then the war would be over and there will be a clear winner.
Ugh and technically through the audio gadget Korg gadget can do audio…but it’s not ideal in any way…laughing out loud
Ugh and technically through sampling so can nanostudio but once again not quite ideal, but it could be done
Fair point.
My approach is :
If there is general thread about some app asking for all kinds of opinions i contribute also with criticism.
If somebody creates thread which is obiously subjective rant ot subjective enthusiasm, i contribute only in case i am aligned with thread creator point of view
I just think there are threads where all kinds of opinions, even opposite ones, are helpful, and there are threads, where being in opposite with thread author is just … well, not what i do…
Aint life grand?
It’s these almost textual warm moments that make me like you a little.
It's fine if you don't like Zenbeats. But I don't appreciate you making assumptions about the reasons for my personal preferences.
Zenbeats synths don't suck in my opinion. I just prefer my AUv3's that I'm used to using in other apps. I actually do find ZC1 helpful for quick fishing around a wide range of sounds. Often I end up keeping them. The "rompler" drum machine you sneer at is also quick and easy, and just as good as any other sampler I would normally use.
I'll disengage. But maybe you could return the favor by keeping me out of your vitriol about the app. (Yes, I started it by reacting to your characterization of ZB as a "DAWmpler.")
well they are rather simple minumalistic (and everybody knows i always preffer complex synths with many options) but at least they have serious usable UI not just big scrollable wall of almost randomly placed knobs like Logic stock plugins :-)))
Like do not tell me you are able to do meaningful sound design in Scultpure or ES2 in iPad Logic and you are even enjoying it. Cause if you do you are probably 200 IQ mastermind :-)))
I don't think ZB synths are that bad, they sound actually pretty good, and yes, they have a limited features set and are more like one-trick pony type (definitely full blown zenology would be great), but they aren 't useless.. they are probably comparable to older simpler Logic stock synths (es m, es p, ...) .. ElectroSynth has 3 oscillators, 2 lfos, filter with envelope, 4 fxs - i can get some useable sounds from it..
Stock efects are pretty useable too.. again, yes, simple - but useable.
I actually think ZB is pretty well equiped with basic plugins and they do for what they are made pretty well. Sound quality is pretty much a lot better than for example BM3 stock plugins. After last two week evaluating it i am surprised how much i can found use of them in my music.
Akso one fact: Third party plugins works much better in ZB than in Logic. Much less crashes, no slow UI redraw which many third party plugins suffers in logic.
Weak part of ZB is recording automation of third party plugins. Here i must admit that is really crap, this needs to be improved (shout out to @MatthewAtZenbeats )
Been a daily reader of this forum for the last 10 years and only joined 5 years ago. There is definitely an evolution in the general tone of this forum especially in the last year. And yes, it has been very enjoyable 10 years compared to other forums out there. A bit less lately...
I knew already I cannot claim any ownership to any app I bought, but thanks for the reminder. I used to read thoroughly the EULA, but not much lately. There is no reason for those to have drastically changed. Even something you create with your own hands can eventually get robbed from you.
My only grief with subscription has nothing to do with possession. It is far more basic than that: the idea of spitting money on a regular basis when I have been used and spoiled not to. Especially in the current world economy. But if it's the price to pay to ensure continuous support for a great app like LP4i, I can live with that. Only hoping Apple will keep the current price.
Eventually, I am not here to start a fight with you. You're one the regular members I enjoyed reading over the last 10 years. I understand and personally agree with most of your points in this thread. I just didn't see the point of being arrogant towards the OP if he found the best DAW for his needs. Maybe there's an absolute truth hidden somewhere, but it's not accessible to simple mortals like us. But maybe you're not human, I cannot tell... I never met you, very likely never will 😉 but will keep on enjoying reading you.
All the best
Well i think most of us here are not assholes and in real life discussion we would have good discussion even through we disagree on some things. Forum sometimes removes the personal touch, people are reacting just to some letters and forget to see real person behind those letters. I fall into this sometimes too, not arguing. But constantly trying to improve.
As for now, i can think really about just one or two true asshole/troll level of users here (not goimg to name them but they didn't appeared in this thread yet :-)) - i just ignore them - even when they attack me personally - i do not reply on them in any form. If i discuss with somebody, even through that discussion may sound like arguement, at the end i respect that person and it is worth for me to discuss with that person - i do not waste my time on person who i doesn't respect.
So yeah, i respect you too, bro, even through i disagree on some points with you
I don’t speak for the forum at all, but your post was good, I appreciate you finding the good as much as the bad…I have noted this..and will try to apply it and stay a bit more level. Thank You.
Imagine reading a thread about someone praising an app/DAW that they love and click with, including how inspiring it’s been to them, and your first thought is to come here and comment about how bad it is and how wrong they are. Y’all realize you can just let people enjoy things right?
I gotta believe the Zenbeats naysayers haven’t spent any real time with it. Is it lacking a few things Logic is? Sure. But is it a toy? Absolutely not. It’s still a very formidable DAW and worthy of being in the discussion. The trend here lately to come into positive threads and throw a bunch of negatives around is very annoying. If you feel so strongly about an iOS DAW made by a billion dollar corporation that you have to write multi paragraph diatribes to prop it up, you may need to reevaluate lol
Also, fwiw I agree with you wholeheartedly @fearandloathing
Zenbeats is a great and very inspiring DAW to use. Don’t let the negativity get ya down. There’s some people who feel the need to defend Logic at every turn. It’s why I’ve mostly stopped visiting threads about it. But I also really wanted to come in here to sing the praises of ZB. Alas, you just can’t escape em. I fully expect them to start picketing at Roland headquarters with signs saying how much better Logic is and why they should just give up.
Okay, mind sharing? You have fairly strong opinions on this product, so I was curious about the type of music you do, and whether that plays into it.
Wim, I apologize for making that assumption. I spoke incorrectly.
To me, they suck…but I am coming from Hardware Gear and they are very simple…it’s like… it can be done,but who wants to?
Where as synths like sculpture are powerful modeling synths that are competing with high dollar units and winning.
I do sneer at the drum machine on zenbeats…I just don’t feel like it’s as good as drum machine designer, where each sample can have a full engine, or I can go to drum synth…not to mention I absolutely love it tied to the step sequencer …fun!!!!
And I will keep you out of my cruel criticisms of apps, unless you come in and join.
And I got you with DAWmpler too…that’s great!
I made that word up and man it’s a hook so far
For me the most important 'thing' here is to find the tools that work for the majority of the tasks I need to do and that makes it fun and more or less stress-free to accomplish those tasks...
...my nit-picky nature makes it very easy to find flaws in just about everything I touch which can be both a blessing or a curse depending on how I look at it and I often have to accept 'good enough for now' in order to stay 'sane' and go on a 'rant-rampage' without an end in sight
None of the 'DAWs' are 100% perfect and suitable for every single task and that's perfectly fine...
All of the forum members music links are in a thread somewhere on here, you can look at my profile and see the album cover to get the information to look it up. I think it’s everywhere online so it doesn’t matter what platform that you use. I don’t spam forums with my links because it’s easy to find if you really want to hear it.
Exactly. It’s about finding balance and what works for you. No reason for people to get so testy and defensive about something so minuscule.
Honestly 2-3 years ago i was more on @MrSmileZ side of ZB opinion. After i tried recent version (i mean really tried, went through all features, tested them, just out of curiosity - sometimes i do that with all kinds of apps which i normally don't use just to make my perspective wider) - now i am more on @fearandloathing side of opinion. In both cases my opinion wasn't that extreme, but i see ZB as very interesting DAW, very well equipped. (and i really like 808 Nights UI theme, i just don't like mixer cause i found channels unnecessary thick)
What i actually love in ZB is drum sequencer. It's fantastic, love every bit of it.
I was the same way when I first got ZB. I tried it, wasn’t a big fan, so went back to C3. I’ve dove back in every few months since then and liked it more and more to the point it became my main DAW a while back and has been since. I’m still testing the waters with Logic and like a lot about it, but I’m not sure it can usurp Zenbeats right now (for me anyway).
While I do like some aspects of ZenBeats it somehow feels like 'it's not for me'.
The mixer sliders feel like 'stuck in jelly' when I try to move them (maybe to avoid abrupt volume changes?) and there's always these crackling noises when loading a new instances of ZC-1 while stuff is playing making it feel 'glitchy' and 'unpolished' and it's not because the device it's running on is not 'fast enough' (M1 iPadPro).
What I have to applaud the ZenBeats team for is the frequent updates and seeing how far it's come from the StageLight days, it's an impressive journey so far and with the solid backing from Roland it will be one of the DAWs that will stick around for a long time as it's part of the Roland Cloud and I don't see that going away in any near future...
What made me get the V3 unlock for ZenBeats way back was the ZC-1 synth as I really enjoy the sounds, wish it was an AUv3 though. (Maybe the V4 unlock will finally bake-in a full Zenology Pro AUv3 that can be used with other hosts?).
I'll keep all of them around to see where things go...
What I despise about zenbeats the most is, I know Roland can do better or give the devs more things to add etc. Just opening the zenology plug in up is a huge leap forward. But no, you just cant have it in IOS. The whole zencore system was supposed to be present and compatible through out their line up…but the pledge has not been fulfilled! Its kinda lousy using zenbeats when you can turn on the Fantom and even have Daw control over logic natively on that board. Ironic indeed.
Would i pay 250.00 to have zenology on ios…yup, especially with supernatural sounds, and models
Actualy from my experience with Roland HW gear i am surprised how "complete" ZB is
It's probably (i guess) because core team doesn't consist from Roland employees but still same StageLight guys, working hard on realising their vision of DAW, just payed by Roland.
Roland HW (especially grooveboxes like MC707/101 or recent SH4x) is always suffering by some completely illogic omissions, they do something but from some reason they just don't finish it to fully unleash it's potential. I am not sure if i expressed myself correctly, i like Roland gear, but ALWAYS it feels like "damn fuck when they did this detail, why they just didn't invested a little bit more time and finished it to have it really perfect"... In my mind Roland is just master of "unfinished great ideas"
Honestly after they added full-edit capability of synt engine MC101, i was hoping they do same with ZC-1 in ZB, but looks like this is not their strategy.
Yes ! Without blink of eye !
Looking forward to ZB team for these 3 things, when they implemented i am ready to permanently switch from NS2 to ZB
(i would love to have user definable macro knobs like they are in Obsidian (eg one kbob may conbtrol multiple parameters) but i am realistic, there is no demand on market for such feature so don't expecting they ever add it)
But what makes Logic Pro for iPad superior to the other DAWs on this platform, it’s the whole package of LP4i - instruments, plugins, soundspacks & loops etc etc…
It’s a reason that Logic cost 50 bucks a year meanwhile the other lightweighted DAWs is priced peanut money…
Doesn’t matter how many times you defends NS2 and Korg Gadget, non of this two can be called DAW because they lacks features a DAW MUST have, if not, then we can call AUM a DAW, Audiobus a DAW etc etc…
BTW, this is the DAW anthem for me.
(Let me off the hook about whether DAW is an initialism or an acronym, and how it is pronounced in the latter case.)
Lil Baby "My DAW"
Yeah, that's my DAW for sure (My DAW)
Yeah, that's my DAW (My DAW)
Yeah, that's my DAW for sure (My DAW)
Yeah, that's my DAW (My DAW)
*A lot of DAWs. Which be in the studio with me? Let’s see. Ableton Live, Bitwig Studio, Cubase, FL Studio, Logic Pro, Pro Tools, REAPER, Reason, Studio One. The list goes on. All them, they’re my DAWs for sure. That’s a word we stress.
[The quote (not) from annotations on Genius.com]
https://genius.com/12734881
(DAWs for iOS/iPadOS including Zenbeats are not listed above because there are not enough variety of them to replace the original annotations on Genius.com. So I listed only DAWs for PC. I do not have any negative intentions towards Zenbeats or any other DAW for iOS/iPadOS.)
If you don’t need those things though, it’s not so superior.
I like Zenbeats, it has a good layout and some sensible choices for recording.
There was a reason I stopped using it but I can’t remember why now. The sounds are pretty cheesy, my 606 doesn’t sound like the one in ZB that’s for sure.
What features do they lack, that DAWs MUST have?
Korg Gadget is fantastic, but, it’s not a real DAW - Gadget can’t use external plugins and it has an limitation in the lenght of the timeline/beats, not good for a “DAW”…
Nanostudio 2 is a awesome piece of software, but, as long it lacks real audiotracks we can’t call it a DAW (Digital AUDIO Workstation)…