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New App: King of Bass - Analog Synth, Sub, 808, and Kick-maker

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  • @Poppadocrock said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @Poppadocrock said:
    This or lowtones? Dang I like the sound of this… how’s DSP?

    So far it’s kinda hard for me to say. I think they both have a unique sound. They’re sort of going for similar things but do it differently. If you can swing it I’d say get both. If you can get only one and want more sub bass low end or kicks, get King of Bass. If you want a more general bass synth with lots of analog flavor go Lowtone. Both have some really cool things that make them unique.

    I definitely liked that tuned kick feature. I try to use tuned kick’s regularly so that seems very useful on top of the bass sounds. I always liked their 808 app and this is basically the enhanced double layer version. Think I’m gonna get it.

    You should also check out Paul’s Synth Drum Kick and the free Chow kick if you haven’t. Both are more specialized but amazing nonetheless.

    I’m really really enjoying King of Bass though. I’ve already made a few presets that I love and started a track with it. AudioKit is on a role.

  • Is it just me or the oscillators release doesn’t get cut by a new note?

    It sounds polyphonic when I play to short notes with an saw oscillator

  • wimwim
    edited July 2023

    @cokomairena said:
    Is it just me or the oscillators release doesn’t get cut by a new note?

    It sounds polyphonic when I play to short notes with an saw oscillator

    Oooh. I see what you mean. That ain’t right. 😐
    Easy to reproduce by setting a long release.

  • Were going to buy. If better than bass 808.

  • @wim said:

    @cokomairena said:
    Is it just me or the oscillators release doesn’t get cut by a new note?

    It sounds polyphonic when I play to short notes with an saw oscillator

    Oooh. I see what you mean. That ain’t right. 😐
    Easy to reproduce by setting a long release.

    Another note cutting release of the previous one, look at an oscilloscope?! With the saw osc. it is the same.

  • wimwim
    edited July 2023

    @Luxthor said:

    @wim said:

    @cokomairena said:
    Is it just me or the oscillators release doesn’t get cut by a new note?

    It sounds polyphonic when I play to short notes with an saw oscillator

    Oooh. I see what you mean. That ain’t right. 😐
    Easy to reproduce by setting a long release.

    Another note cutting release of the previous one, look at an oscilloscope?! With the saw osc. it is the same.

    I'll check myself with a spectrogram, but there ain't no way that's what my ears are hearing. Single saw wave, release all the way up, play a couple of notes and you get a chord.

    [edit] This was in the standalone, with the internal keyboard. Maybe it works differently triggered externally by MIDI.

  • Is there a way to globally disable the sequencer/arpeggiator? Or am I missing it?

  • Nope. My ears aren't that bad. Yet. 😉

  • edited July 2023

    @HotStrange said:

    @Poppadocrock said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @Poppadocrock said:
    This or lowtones? Dang I like the sound of this… how’s DSP?

    So far it’s kinda hard for me to say. I think they both have a unique sound. They’re sort of going for similar things but do it differently. If you can swing it I’d say get both. If you can get only one and want more sub bass low end or kicks, get King of Bass. If you want a more general bass synth with lots of analog flavor go Lowtone. Both have some really cool things that make them unique.

    I definitely liked that tuned kick feature. I try to use tuned kick’s regularly so that seems very useful on top of the bass sounds. I always liked their 808 app and this is basically the enhanced double layer version. Think I’m gonna get it.

    You should also check out Paul’s Synth Drum Kick and the free Chow kick if you haven’t. Both are more specialized but amazing nonetheless.

    I’m really really enjoying King of Bass though. I’ve already made a few presets that I love and started a track with it. AudioKit is on a role.

    Thanks. I have chow kick, and a ton of tuned samples. I’ve been considering a bass synth recently, the fact that it does tuned kicks is more of a bonus to its usefulness.

    I know it’s hard to tell since there are many variables, but based on other apps how does the DSP/cpu feel when using king of bass? Cheers.

  • Notes do cut as they should if they overlap. The screenshot above was with separation between the notes.

    ... or is that the way it should be? It was late last night and is early now. I'm not thinking very clearly.

  • @Luxthor said:

    @wim said:

    @cokomairena said:
    Is it just me or the oscillators release doesn’t get cut by a new note?

    It sounds polyphonic when I play to short notes with an saw oscillator

    Oooh. I see what you mean. That ain’t right. 😐
    Easy to reproduce by setting a long release.

    Another note cutting release of the previous one, look at an oscilloscope?! With the saw osc. it is the same.

    Sounds like it could use a retrigger switch on/off.

  • Thanks folks, I'll look into this envelope release issue. It's interesting indeed! 🤔

    I'm using all new ADSR code. And, the Samples and Synth Modes have slightly different ADSRs, which kind of gives it some character and analog quirkiness. Definitely learned a lot and will re-engineer for D1 reboot so it's more consistent and uses a single ADSR.

    Apologies if this frustrates anyone. The PCM ADSR and Mono-mode is fairly traditional if that helps .

  • @AnalogMatthew said:
    Thanks folks, I'll look into this envelope release issue. It's interesting indeed! 🤔

    I'm using all new ADSR code. And, the Samples and Synth Modes have slightly different ADSRs, which kind of gives it some character and analog quirkiness. Definitely learned a lot and will re-engineer for D1 reboot so it's more consistent and uses a single ADSR.

    Apologies if this frustrates anyone. The PCM ADSR and Mono-mode is fairly traditional if that helps .

    Also if i quickly press two keys sometimes it gets silent and sometimes it activates a slow glide between notes.

  • I also find the fact that you can’t turn modulated knobs very frustrating. That’s why other synths visualize the modulation amount with a bar outside the knob instead of moving the knob.

    And some times the filter doesn’t reset between notes, it’s like the modulation is too slow, maybe the curve is softened two much on abrupt changes?

    I also get notes stucks sometimes while changing presets.

    In general I find it difficult to work with, and it feels unstable, but it has some great sounds!

  • @wim said:
    Nope. My ears aren't that bad. Yet. 😉

    So, in the link mode when you select only OSC 2 synth stop cutting release. When you select only OSC 1 works as intended. Nothing wrong with my ears too. ;)

  • wimwim
    edited July 2023

    @AnalogMatthew said:
    Thanks folks, I'll look into this envelope release issue. It's interesting indeed! 🤔

    I'm using all new ADSR code. And, the Samples and Synth Modes have slightly different ADSRs, which kind of gives it some character and analog quirkiness. Definitely learned a lot and will re-engineer for D1 reboot so it's more consistent and uses a single ADSR.

    Apologies if this frustrates anyone. The PCM ADSR and Mono-mode is fairly traditional if that helps .

    Frustrate? Heck no. It's just an interesting discovery.

    fwiw, I really like the option to use per-oscillator envelopes. That's one of my favorite features of the synth. The link button makes it instantly one envelope, so best of both worlds. Per OSC pan too. That's rare and also awesome. 👍🏼

  • @cokomairena said:
    I also find the fact that you can’t turn modulated knobs very frustrating. That’s why other synths visualize the modulation amount with a bar outside the knob instead of moving the knob.

    Thanks – Some other folks have DM'd me with that suggestion, too. I'll try to add that to a future update. 👍

    Appreciate the other feedback. I'm reading everyone's posts and making notes

  • wimwim
    edited July 2023

    @Luxthor said:

    @wim said:
    Nope. My ears aren't that bad. Yet. 😉

    So, in the link mode when you select only OSC 2 synth stop cutting release. When you select only OSC 1 works as intended. Nothing wrong with my ears too. ;)

    Close, but not exactly. It doesn't matter if you use OSC1 or OSC2. It's whether or not you use one of the algorithmic ("analog") waveforms like a saw. The named ("PCM") waveforms work as expected.

  • @wim said:

    @Luxthor said:

    @wim said:
    Nope. My ears aren't that bad. Yet. 😉

    So, in the link mode when you select only OSC 2 synth stop cutting release. When you select only OSC 1 works as intended. Nothing wrong with my ears too. ;)

    Close, but not exactly. It doesn't matter if you use OSC1 or OSC2. It's whether or not you use one of the algorithmic ("analog") waveforms like a saw. The named ("PCM") waveforms work as expected.

    Got it! I see a solution and will have this fixed in next update 🙏👍

  • wimwim
    edited July 2023

    You are a well oiled machine my man!

    Wait. That sounds weird.

  • @wim said:

    @Luxthor said:

    @wim said:
    Nope. My ears aren't that bad. Yet. 😉

    So, in the link mode when you select only OSC 2 synth stop cutting release. When you select only OSC 1 works as intended. Nothing wrong with my ears too. ;)

    Close, but not exactly. It doesn't matter if you use OSC1 or OSC2. It's whether or not you use one of the algorithmic ("analog") waveforms like a saw. The named ("PCM") waveforms work as expected.

    Doing the same for every basic waveform, no matter what you select. What's actually happening when you turn that switch ‘on/off’ on OSC x?! Switching it ‘off’ you just expose native OSC. Interestingly, when you set Mix knob on 50% then “algorithmic ("analog") waveforms” works just fine. My vote goes to Mix knob. 🤓

  • @AnalogMatthew said:

    @wim said:

    @Luxthor said:

    @wim said:
    Nope. My ears aren't that bad. Yet. 😉

    So, in the link mode when you select only OSC 2 synth stop cutting release. When you select only OSC 1 works as intended. Nothing wrong with my ears too. ;)

    Close, but not exactly. It doesn't matter if you use OSC1 or OSC2. It's whether or not you use one of the algorithmic ("analog") waveforms like a saw. The named ("PCM") waveforms work as expected.

    Got it! I see a solution and will have this fixed in next update 🙏👍

    Thank you for your involvement, I appreciate it a lot. 🤩 Check the ‘Mix knob’ also.

  • edited July 2023

    KING OF BASS v1.1 has been submitted to app review

    • Almost 100+ New Presets in 3 New Banks by Da Fingaz, Sander Roscoe Wolff (SRW), and Brandon Martinez
    • You can turn off character animation by going to the "Info" tab and tapping on animated hero

    Various improvements & fixes including:

    • fixes mono release / envelope reset in Synth Osc Mode
    • stops occasional stuck notes when changing presets

    More improvements coming.

    Will also add ability to turn off animation in King of FM and SAGA.

  • Dude fixes things faster than I can "take notes". 😂

  • @AnalogMatthew said:
    KING OF BASS v1.1 has been submitted to app review

    • Almost 100+ New Presets in 3 New Banks by Da Fingaz, Sander Roscoe Wolff (SRW), and Brandon Martinez
    • You can turn off character animation by going to the "Info" tab and tapping on animated hero

    Various improvements & fixes including:

    • fixes mono release / envelope reset in Synth Osc Mode
    • stops occasional stuck notes when changing presets

    More improvements coming.

    Will also add ability to turn off animation in King of FM and SAGA.

    Well done that man. Good effort.

  • Whats the metalic sound on oscilators?

  • wimwim
    edited July 2023

    @sigma79 said:
    Whats the metalic sound on oscilators?

    Lo-Fi Crush?

  • edited July 2023

    Wow thanks for the quick fix also congrats on staying on top of the App Store for paid music apps basically since it came out (I’ve seen it at number 1 for iPad consistently and wasn’t sure about iPhone but just checked it it’s at 2. I’m guessing it was also at 1 at some point )
    . I’ve gotten a lot of bass synths recently and wasn’t sure but this one I am playing much more than any other. Love it.

    @AnalogMatthew said:
    KING OF BASS v1.1 has been submitted to app review

    • Almost 100+ New Presets in 3 New Banks by Da Fingaz, Sander Roscoe Wolff (SRW), and Brandon Martinez
    • You can turn off character animation by going to the "Info" tab and tapping on animated hero

    Various improvements & fixes including:

    • fixes mono release / envelope reset in Synth Osc Mode
    • stops occasional stuck notes when changing presets

    More improvements coming.

    Will also add ability to turn off animation in King of FM and SAGA.

  • @wim said:

    @sigma79 said:
    Whats the metalic sound on oscilators?

    Lo-Fi Crush?

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