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VAPoly 16 by Ryo Togawa (Released)

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  • Refunds can be completely random. Don’t rely on them.

  • @NeuM said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @NeuM said:

    @frosttrance_7 said:
    Can someone provide WAV files of the filter sweeps on different waveforms from VAPoly and VAPoly16 so I can decide before buying?

    Are you serious? Just buy it. If it does not live up to expectations, get a refund.

    Depending on your location, there is no automatic refund option in some territories, and many people have had the experience that Apple often turned down valid refund requests with zero explanation given and no right of appeal if they reject your initial appeal.

    I’ve only had one refund request rejected by Apple. They’ve gotten much better at it. Telling Apple an app did not perform as expected (which is the only reason I'd seek a refund anyway) usually works for me.

    Lucky for you, not always been my experience

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  • @NeuM said:

    @frosttrance_7 said:
    Can someone provide WAV files of the filter sweeps on different waveforms from VAPoly and VAPoly16 so I can decide before buying?

    Are you serious? Just buy it. If it does not live up to expectations, get a refund.

    Haha totally. It’s a bit of a pet peeve of mine when people ask for huge time consuming favors instead of simply trying themselves. A filter sweep for every waveform and every filter type isn’t terribly hard but having to record it and upload the wav files is a bit of a pain.

  • edited August 2023

    Some funny stuff happening in this discussion. I gotta say as far as iOS synths Ryo Togawa’s have been refreshing in my experience. They don’t seem to sound over the top and for sure not really aggressive but for ease of use and dialing something up that’s usable quickly, really good. VAPoly16 is no exception. Sounds decent in a mix and the sequencers on these synths and drum machines even though only 16 bar patterns, well the limitations have make me personally work differently. Kinda back to the basics and it’s been good. Really fun stuff.

  • @Morgman73 said:
    Some funny stuff happening in this discussion. I gotta say as far as iOS synths Ryo Togawa’s have been refreshing in my experience. They don’t seem to sound over the top and for sure not really aggressive but for ease of use and dialing something up that’s usable quickly, really good. VAPoly16 is no exception. Sounds decent in a mix and the sequencers on these synths and drum machines even though only 16 bar patterns, well the limitations have make me personally work differently. Kinda back to the basics and it’s been good. Really fun stuff.

    Agreed. He makes some great sounding synths and is a very responsive dev. I had a crash issue a while back and he had an update fix out within the same day I messaged him.

    If you have the cash to spare and need them, his effects are also fantastic. The delay and channel strip are especially nice but the chorus and reverb rock too.

  • @ehehehe said:

    @gusgranite said:
    Refunds can be completely random. Don’t rely on them.

    Not in the EU, you can demo apps for two weeks and refund works every time because of consumer laws.

    You lucky duckies.

  • @gusgranite said:

    @ehehehe said:

    @gusgranite said:
    Refunds can be completely random. Don’t rely on them.

    Not in the EU, you can demo apps for two weeks and refund works every time because of consumer laws.

    You lucky duckies.

    I heard the reasons appstore prices in the EU are higher is a reflection of that, but personally, I think that would be worth it and wish I had that option.

  • @HotStrange Hmmm? I have so many damn effects that I really didn’t think about his. Visually it immediately turned me off and that’s really dumb on my part. Contempt prior to investigation of something I could use is what I call it these days. I’ll check em.

  • @Morgman73 said:
    @HotStrange Hmmm? I have so many damn effects that I really didn’t think about his. Visually it immediately turned me off and that’s really dumb on my part. Contempt prior to investigation of something I could use is what I call it these days. I’ll check em.

    Nah that’s fair. The visuals of something is important whether we wanna admit it or not but I can usually get over unless it’s absolutely horrible. For his apps, I think it’s fine. Considering the price and functionality. Lemme know if you take the plunge. They’re definitely worth it imo.

  • The visuals of Ryo’s apps are minimalistic and dark. It’s all the same. It doesn’t look amateurish at all, just very plain. If he would bring some color variety between his apps or the ability to change colors that would be a plus. But all his apps are hidden gems that gets way too little attention.

  • @Slush said:
    The visuals of Ryo’s apps are minimalistic and dark. It’s all the same. It doesn’t look amateurish at all, just very plain. If he would bring some color variety between his apps or the ability to change colors that would be a plus. But all his apps are hidden gems that gets way too little attention.

    Agree completely. A bit of color could go a long way. I’m glad he’s getting more recognition lately though. He flew way too far under the radar at first, but the sound quality is too hard to ignore.

  • edited August 2023

    @Gavinski said:

    @dendy said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @dendy said:

    @TheOriginalPaulB said:
    These filters sound nothing like a CS-80. What they do sound very much like is my old Juno 6. More Roland than Yamaha.

    Whole synth sounds nothing like CS80, no idea from where this discussion about CS80 similarities came :-) With all respect to this synth (doesn't sound bad, but if you ask me, also nothing special), warm analog sound of CS80 is like completely different universe :-D

    Thanks Dendy - always good to hear from someone who knows their hardware well. So what synths do you think it sounds like, if any? Cheers!

    Dunno.. sounds just like .. VAPoly16 :-D I guess dev intention wasn't to make some faithful clone of any existing synth ..
    Doesn't remember me too much any particular other synth.

    Filter is nice though, especially on high resonance it adds nice subtle overdrive and fast LFO modulation sounds good .. so .. maybe i should adjust from "nothing special" to "its good, not excellent but definitely good") :-D

    Haha - ok. Yeah, bringing out a mono version, a poly version, then this, if the only real difference apart from polyphony is filters, does seem like a strange approach.

    It is this rather inexplicable release model that has kept me from purchasing Togawa synths. Strangely enough, they each have a unique minimum iOS version requirement.

  • @Slush said:
    The visuals of Ryo’s apps are minimalistic and dark. It’s all the same. It doesn’t look amateurish at all, just very plain. If he would bring some color variety between his apps or the ability to change colors that would be a plus. But all his apps are hidden gems that gets way too little attention.

    Ryo's visual identity is indeed dark and minimalistic, that’s the one of the reasons why they stand out from the crowd. Reminds me of the Korg Prologue. Easy for the eyes, especially when you work late at night. I like it!

  • @Luxthor said:

    @Slush said:
    The visuals of Ryo’s apps are minimalistic and dark. It’s all the same. It doesn’t look amateurish at all, just very plain. If he would bring some color variety between his apps or the ability to change colors that would be a plus. But all his apps are hidden gems that gets way too little attention.

    Ryo's visual identity is indeed dark and minimalistic, that’s the one of the reasons why they stand out from the crowd. Reminds me of the Korg Prologue. Easy for the eyes, especially when you work late at night. I like it!

    Indeed, a very Zen interface :)

  • @satchnut said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @dendy said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @dendy said:

    @TheOriginalPaulB said:
    These filters sound nothing like a CS-80. What they do sound very much like is my old Juno 6. More Roland than Yamaha.

    Whole synth sounds nothing like CS80, no idea from where this discussion about CS80 similarities came :-) With all respect to this synth (doesn't sound bad, but if you ask me, also nothing special), warm analog sound of CS80 is like completely different universe :-D

    Thanks Dendy - always good to hear from someone who knows their hardware well. So what synths do you think it sounds like, if any? Cheers!

    Dunno.. sounds just like .. VAPoly16 :-D I guess dev intention wasn't to make some faithful clone of any existing synth ..
    Doesn't remember me too much any particular other synth.

    Filter is nice though, especially on high resonance it adds nice subtle overdrive and fast LFO modulation sounds good .. so .. maybe i should adjust from "nothing special" to "its good, not excellent but definitely good") :-D

    Haha - ok. Yeah, bringing out a mono version, a poly version, then this, if the only real difference apart from polyphony is filters, does seem like a strange approach.

    It is this rather inexplicable release model that has kept me from purchasing Togawa synths. Strangely enough, they each have a unique minimum iOS version requirement.

    I don’t really see it as strange. A mono and poly synth serve 2 different purposes. And VA16 vs VAPoly have enough differences to make them each a viable purchase, though it’s less obvious then the difference between Mono and Poly.

    Sort of like Korg releasing a Minilogue XD, Prologue 8, and Prologue 16. Each have their place.

  • @HotStrange said:

    @satchnut said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @dendy said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @dendy said:

    @TheOriginalPaulB said:
    These filters sound nothing like a CS-80. What they do sound very much like is my old Juno 6. More Roland than Yamaha.

    Whole synth sounds nothing like CS80, no idea from where this discussion about CS80 similarities came :-) With all respect to this synth (doesn't sound bad, but if you ask me, also nothing special), warm analog sound of CS80 is like completely different universe :-D

    Thanks Dendy - always good to hear from someone who knows their hardware well. So what synths do you think it sounds like, if any? Cheers!

    Dunno.. sounds just like .. VAPoly16 :-D I guess dev intention wasn't to make some faithful clone of any existing synth ..
    Doesn't remember me too much any particular other synth.

    Filter is nice though, especially on high resonance it adds nice subtle overdrive and fast LFO modulation sounds good .. so .. maybe i should adjust from "nothing special" to "its good, not excellent but definitely good") :-D

    Haha - ok. Yeah, bringing out a mono version, a poly version, then this, if the only real difference apart from polyphony is filters, does seem like a strange approach.

    It is this rather inexplicable release model that has kept me from purchasing Togawa synths. Strangely enough, they each have a unique minimum iOS version requirement.

    I don’t really see it as strange. A mono and poly synth serve 2 different purposes. And VA16 vs VAPoly have enough differences to make them each a viable purchase, though it’s less obvious then the difference between Mono and Poly.

    Sort of like Korg releasing a Minilogue XD, Prologue 8, and Prologue 16. Each have their place.

    Agree with you. VAPoly is double the cpu usage from VAMono and VAPoly16 is double the cpu usage from VAPoly. All different sounding synths for different purposes. How many synths have P-Lock in sequencer, you are happy to have sequencer at all.

    They are a true universal platform, working on my MacBook Pro i7. GUI perfectly scales to the iPhone, even on a smaller surface like when you use it as a module in Drambo. They are masterpieces not ‘inexplicable’ by any means.

  • @Luxthor said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @satchnut said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @dendy said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @dendy said:

    @TheOriginalPaulB said:
    These filters sound nothing like a CS-80. What they do sound very much like is my old Juno 6. More Roland than Yamaha.

    Whole synth sounds nothing like CS80, no idea from where this discussion about CS80 similarities came :-) With all respect to this synth (doesn't sound bad, but if you ask me, also nothing special), warm analog sound of CS80 is like completely different universe :-D

    Thanks Dendy - always good to hear from someone who knows their hardware well. So what synths do you think it sounds like, if any? Cheers!

    Dunno.. sounds just like .. VAPoly16 :-D I guess dev intention wasn't to make some faithful clone of any existing synth ..
    Doesn't remember me too much any particular other synth.

    Filter is nice though, especially on high resonance it adds nice subtle overdrive and fast LFO modulation sounds good .. so .. maybe i should adjust from "nothing special" to "its good, not excellent but definitely good") :-D

    Haha - ok. Yeah, bringing out a mono version, a poly version, then this, if the only real difference apart from polyphony is filters, does seem like a strange approach.

    It is this rather inexplicable release model that has kept me from purchasing Togawa synths. Strangely enough, they each have a unique minimum iOS version requirement.

    I don’t really see it as strange. A mono and poly synth serve 2 different purposes. And VA16 vs VAPoly have enough differences to make them each a viable purchase, though it’s less obvious then the difference between Mono and Poly.

    Sort of like Korg releasing a Minilogue XD, Prologue 8, and Prologue 16. Each have their place.

    Agree with you. VAPoly is double the cpu usage from VAMono and VAPoly16 is double the cpu usage from VAPoly. All different sounding synths for different purposes. How many synths have P-Lock in sequencer, you are happy to have sequencer at all.

    They are a true universal platform, working on my MacBook Pro i7. GUI perfectly scales to the iPhone, even on a smaller surface like when you use it as a module in Drambo. They are masterpieces not ‘inexplicable’ by any means.

    100% agreed. I’m happy to see his starting to get his flowers now. I’ve been a fan for the last couple years and have always thought he massively flew under the radar. And yes, the UI looks great on an iPhone as well. I don’t have a need for universal as I’m iOS only but from what I understand Ryo is the gold standard for true universal.

  • I also think Ryo can do more to promo his work. I remember when I bought VADrum2 there was no review, nothing. So you buy it and hope it’s good. I mean, if I can record a 10 minutes vid where I do some presets surfing, and put it on youtube, he can do that as well. You will have to show your hard work to the world. Put it on Youtube/Instagram/Twitter (X), let them know you are there. Very important or you will not get noticed. Maybe he doesn’t care that much and it’s just a cool hobby for him. But it if it where my apps I make sure you guys know what it is all about, how it sounds and where I draw my inspiration from.

  • @Slush said:
    I also think Ryo can do more to promo his work. I remember when I bought VADrum2 there was no review, nothing. So you buy it and hope it’s good. I mean, if I can record a 10 minutes vid where I do some presets surfing, and put it on youtube, he can do that as well. You will have to show your hard work to the world. Put it on Youtube/Instagram/Twitter (X), let them know you are there. Very important or you will not get noticed. Maybe he doesn’t care that much and it’s just a cool hobby for him. But it if it where my apps I make sure you guys know what it is all about, how it sounds and where I draw my inspiration from.

    Yeah one of my biggest pet peeves regarding apps is when a dev doesn’t make even one decent demo. I need to hear something before I buy it in most cases. Surprising to me that a lot of devs don’t do this. Love Ryos apps but the quick 30 second App Store demo just isn’t quite enough.

  • @Slush said:
    I also think Ryo can do more to promo his work. I remember when I bought VADrum2 there was no review, nothing. So you buy it and hope it’s good. I mean, if I can record a 10 minutes vid where I do some presets surfing, and put it on youtube, he can do that as well. You will have to show your hard work to the world. Put it on Youtube/Instagram/Twitter (X), let them know you are there. Very important or you will not get noticed. Maybe he doesn’t care that much and it’s just a cool hobby for him. But it if it where my apps I make sure you guys know what it is all about, how it sounds and where I draw my inspiration from.

    Absolutely, clearly a talented dev, needs to up his marketing game big time!

  • Just a reminder that the RT sale ends on September 30.

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  • Which of Ryo's polysynths would be recommended to buy first, VAPoly or VAPoly 16? Does one or the other stand out as better sounding?

  • @onlydeals said:
    Which of Ryo's polysynths would be recommended to buy first, VAPoly or VAPoly 16? Does one or the other stand out as better sounding?

    I usually reach for 16 first, I like the extra filters and voices but both are really great, imo.

  • edited October 2023

    @onlydeals said:
    Which of Ryo's polysynths would be recommended to buy first, VAPoly or VAPoly 16? Does one or the other stand out as better sounding?

    It depends on your needs; my way was VAPoly->VAPoly16->VAMono. Here, choose your:

    • VAMono is a great bass monophonic monster with LP 24dB analog sounding filter. Light on the CPU.

    • VAPoly is the 8 voices VA lead synth, has two OSCs with ring modulation and two filters: HP -12 dB and LP cascaded OTA with two positions of -12 dB and -24 dB. It's a great filter capable of self-oscillation. Moderate CPU usage.

    • VAPoly16 is a pads and ambient heaven, a VA synth with 16 voices (2x 8 voices with 2 osc). Newly modeled classic analog sounding filters (Sallen-Key). Have integrated EQ, compressor and peak limiter. Heavy CPU usage.

  • @Luxthor said:

    @onlydeals said:
    Which of Ryo's polysynths would be recommended to buy first, VAPoly or VAPoly 16? Does one or the other stand out as better sounding?

    It depends on your needs; my way was VAPoly->VAPoly16->VAMono. Here, choose your:

    • VAMono is a great bass monophonic monster with LP 24dB analog sounding filter. Light on the CPU.

    • VAPoly is the 8 voices VA lead synth, has two OSCs with ring modulation and two filters: HP -12 dB and LP cascaded OTA with two positions of -12 dB and -24 dB. It's a great filter capable of self-oscillation. Moderate CPU usage.

    • VAPoly16 is a pads and ambient heaven, a VA synth with 16 voices (2x 8 voices with 2 osc). Newly modeled classic analog sounding filters (Sallen-Key). Have integrated EQ, compressor and peak limiter. Heavy CPU usage.

    The Sallen-Key filter is what sold me. I love the MS20 filter so much. Had to buy it day one because of that 😂

    OP should know though, Ryo does great sales fairly regularly. If you can wait it may be worth it to hold off for the next sale is it’s usually a 50-60% off sale.

  • @HotStrange said:

    @Luxthor said:

    @onlydeals said:
    Which of Ryo's polysynths would be recommended to buy first, VAPoly or VAPoly 16? Does one or the other stand out as better sounding?

    It depends on your needs; my way was VAPoly->VAPoly16->VAMono. Here, choose your:

    • VAMono is a great bass monophonic monster with LP 24dB analog sounding filter. Light on the CPU.

    • VAPoly is the 8 voices VA lead synth, has two OSCs with ring modulation and two filters: HP -12 dB and LP cascaded OTA with two positions of -12 dB and -24 dB. It's a great filter capable of self-oscillation. Moderate CPU usage.

    • VAPoly16 is a pads and ambient heaven, a VA synth with 16 voices (2x 8 voices with 2 osc). Newly modeled classic analog sounding filters (Sallen-Key). Have integrated EQ, compressor and peak limiter. Heavy CPU usage.

    The Sallen-Key filter is what sold me. I love the MS20 filter so much. Had to buy it day one because of that 😂

    OP should know though, Ryo does great sales fairly regularly. If you can wait it may be worth it to hold off for the next sale is it’s usually a 50-60% off sale.

    Appreciate the responses from both of you, I'm going to pick up VAPoly16 next time it goes on sale.

  • @onlydeals said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @Luxthor said:

    @onlydeals said:
    Which of Ryo's polysynths would be recommended to buy first, VAPoly or VAPoly 16? Does one or the other stand out as better sounding?

    It depends on your needs; my way was VAPoly->VAPoly16->VAMono. Here, choose your:

    • VAMono is a great bass monophonic monster with LP 24dB analog sounding filter. Light on the CPU.

    • VAPoly is the 8 voices VA lead synth, has two OSCs with ring modulation and two filters: HP -12 dB and LP cascaded OTA with two positions of -12 dB and -24 dB. It's a great filter capable of self-oscillation. Moderate CPU usage.

    • VAPoly16 is a pads and ambient heaven, a VA synth with 16 voices (2x 8 voices with 2 osc). Newly modeled classic analog sounding filters (Sallen-Key). Have integrated EQ, compressor and peak limiter. Heavy CPU usage.

    The Sallen-Key filter is what sold me. I love the MS20 filter so much. Had to buy it day one because of that 😂

    OP should know though, Ryo does great sales fairly regularly. If you can wait it may be worth it to hold off for the next sale is it’s usually a 50-60% off sale.

    Appreciate the responses from both of you, I'm going to pick up VAPoly16 next time it goes on sale.

    Sweet! Enjoy!

  • I had to get this.

    Recently I posted on programming a sound for a client which involved some sort of older polyphonic board (unknown to me) routed through an MS20 Filter.

    As soon as I heard the demos, I knew VA16 was my key to reproducing this- even more so once downloaded and played.

    Really like the sound. Quite different to a lot of my other standard synth apps.

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