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  • NeuMNeuM

    Live on YouTube. EG Nodes intro.

  • vdk_johnvdk_john

    Watching the video now, looks really cool!

    @ElliottGarage would you consider adding an "interval" mode for the Note / Chord module, like in Drambo / Live so that you can specify the intervals to be played from the current note?

    Or can this already be achieved in a different way? thanks

  • ElliottGarageElliottGarage

    @vdk_john said:
    Watching the video now, looks really cool!

    @ElliottGarage would you consider adding an "interval" mode for the Note / Chord module, like in Drambo / Live so that you can specify the intervals to be played from the current note?

    Or can this already be achieved in a different way? thanks

    yes, that's interesting...BTW I'm publishing a board where users can post requests and a roadmap :)

  • SamuSamu
    edited January 2

    One 'thing' that is not immediately obvious is that one can add way more than 8 nodes, once the 8 slots are filled just scroll up a bit and add more...

    ...the right sidebar can get pretty full and can't be scrolled when there's 20+ nodes...

    And that leads to another probable request, multiple midi-out ports to cover more than 16 midi-channels :sunglasses:

  • ghost_forestsghost_forests

    @HotStrange said:

    Reminds me of a video I saw a while back. It was an interview with a bunch of Gen alpha/Z kids and none of them knew the “save” icon was based on a real thing (floppy disk) lol. It was blowing their minds.

    Just about every tool in Photoshop is based on darkroom processes

  • solncekreezesolncekreeze

    Is it possible to export audio files with what you created?

  • skiphuntskiphunt

    @solncekreeze said:
    Is it possible to export audio files with what you created?

    Yes. theres a little recording icon at top right of the app. You record then save where you want.

  • solncekreezesolncekreeze

    @skiphunt said:

    @solncekreeze said:
    Is it possible to export audio files with what you created?

    Yes. theres a little recording icon at top right of the app. You record then save where you want.

    Thank you. It is necessary to make a pre-order)

  • gregsmithgregsmith

    Am I right in thinking you can’t go over 4 bars in a piano roll node? Why impose such a limitation?

    If recording from a midi keyboard, it’s good to hit record and play around for a bit then crop to the section you like, no?

  • JumpercollinsJumpercollins

    @gregsmith said:
    Am I right in thinking you can’t go over 4 bars in a piano roll node? Why impose such a limitation?

    If recording from a midi keyboard, it’s good to hit record and play around for a bit then crop to the section you like, no?

    @gregsmith I don’t think the app designed to be a full DAW in that sense. That’s why there’s scenes built into each node so you can have a different 4 bar melody and put different patterns together that way.

    But for more long Ambient style pieces it would be nice to have more than 4 bars.

  • gregsmithgregsmith

    @Jumpercollins said:

    @gregsmith said:
    Am I right in thinking you can’t go over 4 bars in a piano roll node? Why impose such a limitation?

    If recording from a midi keyboard, it’s good to hit record and play around for a bit then crop to the section you like, no?

    @gregsmith I don’t think the app designed to be a full DAW in that sense. That’s why there’s scenes built into each node so you can have a different 4 bar melody and put different patterns together that way.

    But for more long Ambient style pieces it would be nice to have more than 4 bars.

    I’m not expecting a DAW, just want to use this for midi in loopy pro. 4 bars ain’t really gonna cut it.

    Although maybe I just need to get better at recording on the first take 😉

  • lazyasslazyass

    4 bars is short, I hope dev will implement something similar to Drambo grow up recording, it's a godsend to shitty keyboardists like myself.

  • gregsmithgregsmith

    @lazyass said:
    4 bars is short, I hope dev will implement something similar to Drambo grow up recording, it's a godsend to shitty keyboardists like myself.

    Yes, exactly this 😂

  • A_FoxA_Fox

    Well… 8 or 16 bars would be better, but the interface looks great, easy to navigate. The bar duplication method seems fantastic - that simple essential can be a chore in so many other apps and daws.

  • unlinkunlink

    Totally agree with the comment above, 4 bars is not enough for everyone, but the bar duplication method is great.

  • vdk_johnvdk_john

    @unlink said:
    Totally agree with the comment above, 4 bars is not enough for everyone, but the bar duplication method is great.

    "I'm old enough to remember..." when 640KB were enough for everyone 😝

  • catherdercatherder

    @lazyass said:
    4 bars is short, I hope dev will implement something similar to Drambo grow up recording, it's a godsend to shitty keyboardists like myself.

    +1000
    ...and add step recording (Drambo and many hardware sequencers like the Arturia KeyStep have it) to this. It allows note entry at leisure and relieves the aforesaid shitty keyboardist (I am another one of this species) from the difficulties of playing in time.

  • bazebusterbazebuster

    Oh no(des) still 5 days away 🥹

  • espiegel123espiegel123

    @gregsmith said:

    @Jumpercollins said:

    @gregsmith said:
    Am I right in thinking you can’t go over 4 bars in a piano roll node? Why impose such a limitation?

    If recording from a midi keyboard, it’s good to hit record and play around for a bit then crop to the section you like, no?

    @gregsmith I don’t think the app designed to be a full DAW in that sense. That’s why there’s scenes built into each node so you can have a different 4 bar melody and put different patterns together that way.

    But for more long Ambient style pieces it would be nice to have more than 4 bars.

    I’m not expecting a DAW, just want to use this for midi in loopy pro. 4 bars ain’t really gonna cut it.

    Although maybe I just need to get better at recording on the first take 😉

    For MIDI loops, what would be preferable about Nodes over Drambo for your use-case?

  • gregsmithgregsmith

    @espiegel123 said:

    @gregsmith said:

    @Jumpercollins said:

    @gregsmith said:
    Am I right in thinking you can’t go over 4 bars in a piano roll node? Why impose such a limitation?

    If recording from a midi keyboard, it’s good to hit record and play around for a bit then crop to the section you like, no?

    @gregsmith I don’t think the app designed to be a full DAW in that sense. That’s why there’s scenes built into each node so you can have a different 4 bar melody and put different patterns together that way.

    But for more long Ambient style pieces it would be nice to have more than 4 bars.

    I’m not expecting a DAW, just want to use this for midi in loopy pro. 4 bars ain’t really gonna cut it.

    Although maybe I just need to get better at recording on the first take 😉

    For MIDI loops, what would be preferable about Nodes over Drambo for your use-case?

    Just the interface tbh. It looks great.
    Drambo is awesome and I have a really good sequencer template, but I find it all a bit fiddly, especially the piano roll.

    Something about nodes really appeals, although it might just be shiny newness 🤷‍♂️

  • ElliottGarageElliottGarage

    I'm quoting myself from the other thread :)

    'About the 4 bars thing, no testers complain about that...remember that this is not conceived as a full MIDI piano roll au3 app (there are already some on iOS to do that), but as an environment built on scenes and different nodes type that must coexist in a coherent way and 4 bars seems to be enugh for the sceneraio :)
    Anyway I can increase the bar lenght if there will be a popular request, I'm publishin a dashboard to ask for feature and a roadmap.'

    Probably using the app its approach and workflow pushed users towards other musical directions...no one asked for more bars in over 1 month of beta testing :D
    Thanks for all the feedback!

  • SamuSamu

    @ElliottGarage It might be a good idea to make it a bit more obvious (don't have any good ides on how to fix this) that it's possible to add more nodes than 8 by scrolling the view up once all 8 slots are taken.

    ...when adding an insane amount of nodes (I stopped at 20+) the right sidebar with the AUv3 icon's can not be scrolled for quick access to the AUv3's that are loaded on the nodes.

    Also adding multiple midi-busses could be something to consider when the node-count goes up to be able to access more than 16 channels?

    Cheers!

  • ElliottGarageElliottGarage

    Right...I need to put those icons in a scrollbar.
    Multiple midi out is a good idea too (mainly for the AU3 version of the app)

  • HotStrangeHotStrange

    I don’t and never did see the 4 bar limit as an issue. Nodes is very much doing its own thing. It makes you work a bit differently and come up with ideas you may not have otherwise. Not every app needs to have every feature and not every app is going for the “DAW” approach like Drambo is. Because Drambo already does it.

  • wimwim
    edited January 3

    @HotStrange said:
    I don’t and never did see the 4 bar limit as an issue. Nodes is very much doing its own thing. It makes you work a bit differently and come up with ideas you may not have otherwise. Not every app needs to have every feature and not every app is going for the “DAW” approach like Drambo is. Because Drambo already does it.

    People (not me) complain regularly about the 16 bar limit in Drambo. Enough is never enough. 😉

    (* There there are some tricks to eeek out more bars in Drambo. That's just the basic limit.)

  • HotStrangeHotStrange

    @wim said:

    @HotStrange said:
    I don’t and never did see the 4 bar limit as an issue. Nodes is very much doing its own thing. It makes you work a bit differently and come up with ideas you may not have otherwise. Not every app needs to have every feature and not every app is going for the “DAW” approach like Drambo is. Because Drambo already does it.

    People complain regularly about the 16 bar limit in Drambo. Enough is never enough. 😉

    (* There there are some tricks to eeek out more bars in Drambo. That's just the basic limit.)

    You’re right but that kinda helps prove my point even further 😂. People do the same with Koala. I see so many requests to add in a proper timeline, auv3 hosting, etc. Nothing wrong of course with requesting features but when it goes against the workflow and “point” of the app or they’re requested before an app so even out is maybe a little much lol

  • gregsmithgregsmith

    @HotStrange said:
    I don’t and never did see the 4 bar limit as an issue. Nodes is very much doing its own thing. It makes you work a bit differently and come up with ideas you may not have otherwise. Not every app needs to have every feature and not every app is going for the “DAW” approach like Drambo is. Because Drambo already does it.

    Well I’ve preordered now, so I guess I’ll find out for myself 😁

    I don’t really see ‘more than 4 bars in a piano roll’ as a feature though, or a ‘DAW approach’. It’s just a strange arbitrary limit to choose imo.

  • jobeatsjobeats

    Great app, pre ordered and can’t wait to get my hands on. My workflow is mostly high bpm beats with ‘slow’ melodies. This app is ideal for my needs, but 4 bars may not be enough. If it can’t be implemented not a dealbreaker.

  • jobeatsjobeats

    I watched the introduction video last night, seems so intuitive. I was wondering is there a way to manipulate or modulate pitch on hi hats? This will be in the note editor

  • ElliottGarageElliottGarage

    @jobeats said:
    Great app, pre ordered and can’t wait to get my hands on. My workflow is mostly high bpm beats with ‘slow’ melodies. This app is ideal for my needs, but 4 bars may not be enough. If it can’t be implemented not a dealbreaker.

    @gregsmith glad you preordered! And keep me posted after you try the app

    @jobeats each module can have a different speed rate (and time steps) so you can slow down your melodies quite a lot! You can go down to /8

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