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Huh, this is pretty cool! The GuitarML module on BYOD is capable of loading externally trained models, and I think anything that is compatible with the GuitarML "Proteus" plugin should be compatible with the BYOD module as well. I had tested loading external GuitarML models in BYOD on iOS before the latest release, so I believe that should work fine, but if anyone runs into issues, please let me know! (To be fair, I'm not the most knowledgeable about how the iOS file system works, but I'll try to chat with other folks who know more).
At the moment, the GuitarML module only allows for up to one "conditioning" parameter, which can be trained into the model. I'm not sure if any of the analogXai models are trained in this way. It should be possible to add support for more conditioning parameters in the future, but in my experience it becomes harder achieve good accuracy for more than 2-3 parameters with neural network models.
Anyway, I don't think I've spoken with whoever's running analogXai up to this point, but if they're around, I'd be happy to chat with them
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The netlist view was a new addition in the most recent release of BYOD, but I didn't make a big deal out of it, since I figured the folks most interested would be circuit nerds like me
. The idea here isn't necessarily that we're using some sort of "automated" circuit modelling process (although in some cases we are), just that we have a modelling process that goes all the way down to the individual component level. Often times, changing the circuit topology requires quite a bit of re-computation, so at the moment the BYOD netlist editor only supports changing component values. I also realized that it's quite easy to accidentally choose component values that create instabilities or other issues, so I tried to limit the component value ranges to mitigate that issue.
Anyway, I'm just glad folks are using BYOD and doing cool things with it
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The legend himself! Thanks for popping in. BYOD and ChowTape are easily 2 of the best and my favorite effect apps on iOS. Been on the beta for some time now and it’s just a joy seeing all the cool stuff getting added all the time.
It is a BIG BIG deal ! You are absolute legend sir, mad respect ! I love nerd stuff ..
Oh, "at the moment" - i see there chance of channing circuit topology at some point in future .. holy crap .. well, i think some re-computation time a fter change is absolutely zero problem in my opinion, just edit mode, button "recalculate" with progressbar, done .. plus posibility to save topology (precalculated) as preset
This is the kind of issue which is good candidate for IAP :-)
You are getting more and more attention here on the Audiobus forum, slowly but effectively. Not as much as it should be, but we are getting there. In my opinion, people are generally skeptical about free software, probably thinking that a cheap price means cheap functionality. In reality, your tools are top-notch functional, versatile, light on CPU, and have one of the best universal and flexible UIs, if not the best one.
Keep up the good work. I’m one of those watching your live streams, it's a meditational thing for me.
Ah, but which menu is it exactly ? I cannot find this option in BYOD version 2.0 and this is undocumented in the online manual…
Yeah I’d be well into this as well, can’t expect real time circuit updating (MIDI control😂) - I do wonder what the instabilities are, crashing, or just ‘too interesting to listen to without breaking stuff’ 😅
Sliders for the component values would be ace too, but obviously, one step at a time, and I’m sure you know what you’re doing @chowdsp
Example from one of the modules:
Hope that helps.
chowtape has long been an audiobus forum favorite.
I hope it is. With so many people around this forum, you can’t judge by only reading it. What I said was only speculation about my positive thoughts. Did I sound pretentious? It was not my intention at all. 🫣
My best ones are ChowMatrix phenomenal multi-tap delay and ChowMultiTool, then everything else.
The netlist feature is so awesome. That would be so cool to have a synth with that feature for some circuit bending madness. Even better would be if someone made iCircuit into an audio unit lol
Curious to hear from those more informed about this whole world:
So are these just IRs? What use is, for example, an EQ IR without a tweakable UI? I understand the use of IRs for reverb etc, but struggle a little to understand why, if someone wants a pulteq eq, for example, they wouldn't rather have an entirely modeled auv3 like the kind of stuff rrs or ddmf or Nembrini do, than just an IR. Or maybe I'm misunderstanding something?
im not entirely sure about this exact dev, but it seems to be yes, a sampled response of hardware. You could sample a "go-to" setting on a compressor or eq, say 4:1 ratio with moderate attack and release with 4 db gain reduction, or say a wide band bump at 8k with 3 db gain on an eq to add energy, etc etc etc.
i was completely unaware this even existed until recently when i got sucked into Acustica on desktop. My initial thought was this sounds like a gimmick. Within 10 minutes of trialing their "ssl" i ended up buying a brand new plugin suite lol, blew UAD, waves stuff etc out of the water.
These seem like one setting snapshots, which limits the useability, but should still yield some impressive results. Acustica samples every setting on the hardware they capture, so you can morph between the responses and have full control.
Algorithmic / modeled stuff can still sound good of course, its also wayyyy less cpu hungry, but after years of working with consoles and racks and racks of gear, and feeling like all the "best" and industry standard modeled plugin's were still missing the magic, i was completely blown away when i heard the acustica stuff.
IR's cannot capture nonlinear phenomena, such as compressors or saturators.
To do that, you'd basically need to capture a very large number of IR's in response to different level impulses.
Which is a concept many of Acustica's plugins are more or less based on. They have some amazing experts, they really stand out from the crowd. BTW I think they are using a practical implementation of the Volterra Series, if someone wants to delve deeper into the subject.
Thanks for clarifying! Acustica's installs are sometimes up to a gig, so it makes sense they captured so many IR's. I'll dig into Volterra series, seems interesting, i love nerdy math stuff haha.
Absolutely. We could all be Mark Mothersbaugh.
Didn’t sound pretentious at all to me mate
I agree with you fully. Chows apps punch so far above their weight it’s not even funny. Crazy what you get for free. ChowTape is such an in depth tape effect (that I’ve used for years) but still sometimes blows my mind. That and BYOD are indispensable for me at this point. MultiTool is becoming a must have as well. Matrix I’ve spent less time in (haha) but I do love it every time I use it.
I love circuit bending, ive bent somewhere around 200 different units throughout the years, kids, toys, drum machines, pedals, keyboards etc. it would be super fun to have a circuit bent synth as a plugin. I asked Igor if he could ever make one, and he said this :
I thought about it too. My GlitchScaper app is almost like a drum
I hope
machine. I plan to do something similar but with a more familiar step
sequencer. And of course there you will can turn the knobs and switch
the buttons to get the most unimaginable sounds and patterns
it will be possible this year.
also, one of his apps has a circuit bending section, i forget which one, but i think its fieldscaper. somewhere deep in the menu, theres an entire circuit bending section.
no, not at all! sorry if i did haha. I love chow stuff a lot, both on desktop and iOS. truly great tools
They aren’t IRs and I posted a link upthread to a FAQ about the tech which uses machine learning to sample the response and build a digital model.
This guy, dev of AnalogXAi says that what he is doing is like what Acustica is doing. Seems the site could really do with being a bit more informative about the process and the benefits
Thnx, I see that now. I'll have a read of it when my brain has properly woken up, I like my morning reading a bit on the lighter side, cheers!
Yes, it does: thank you!
I said that because I’m prone to overdoing things, so I must be cautious. 😅
Those two apps have a constant appearance in my projects. That's why I listed them, not for their complexity. BYOD will be ubiquitous on iOS, if not already.
Oh yeah I understood! Matrix doesn’t appear as much for me but for a really weird delay, it’s fantastic. Chows apps are just fantastic in general. Haven’t disliked a single one yet, not even close.
Oh yeah, it took me a minute to remember, but there is another guy making proteus and nam presets that should work in the GuitarML module. A lot of good IRs as well https://pasttofuturereverbs.gumroad.com/
I have the Studer 169 from them.
It does kind of sound like the one I used to have in a good way.
I created this account just to ask create what folder where and what files go in that folder?
Just create a folder in the iOS Files app and put the downloaded json files in it. Then, in BYOD, add a Drive–>GuitarML module, tap on the current Model name and select Custom. It opens a Files browser and you can navigate to the json file you want.
Guitar ML is pretty amazing.
https://guitarml.com/tonelibrary/tonelib-pro.html
Those all sound great, free.
Yep been working my way through them and they sound excellent.