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The New Beatles’ Song
Have you heard it yet?
I kind of like it, and think it is better than the prior two efforts produced by Jeff Lynne. It has a nice late period Beatles vibe without sounding too contrived.
Interesting to hear Ringo doing some of the backing vocals - there aren’t too many Beatles’ songs where he does that. I guess without John and George able to add theirs it makes sense.
I’m looking forward to the remixed Red and Blue albums now. Giles Martin has been doing a pretty good job with everything else he’s worked with.
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I like the vocal melody a lot. I’d like to hear a more stripped back version at some point but I think it’s good. The video is a bit cheesy at points but also very good. And it’s always nice to see Paul and Ringo still kickin around.
Yeah, the video would have benefited from less crowding of Beatles in it. Obviously it needs stock footage, but trying to make it look like they’re interacting does give it a really cheesy feel.
Do you mean Jeff Lynne of ELO produced Free As A Bird and Real Love? Or Do I misunderstand it completely? I have no idea, wow! I'm ashamed to say I probably know all Beatles songs by heart but no knowledge of their background at all. 😅
I think Now and Then is OK. I'm more into Free As A Bird, but probably because I know it by heart. I like to melancholy mood of the new one.
Giles Martin is in by Good Boy Book once he put Taxman guitar solo over Drive My Car!
I think the melody of the first few lines is very beautiful but I find something unsatisfying in the structure of the song. It feels like a song without a verse, instead it’s all just bridges and choruses, if that makes sense. It’s mostly all downhill after peaking too quickly at the start. That intro almost feels more like an outro. So some lovely moments, but the whole is deeply flawed, imo. I did enjoy some of the old footage put in, especially of George looking like a cool old hippy, and of John conducting, but it was in parts a bit jarring and not convincing enough. I’m still glad they released it, I guess, and felt touched by it. And definitely a fantastic job done by whatever software it was they used to isolate the voice.
Definitely. Apparently Peter Jackson directed the video as well. The stock footage was fine but like you said, making it seem like they’re interacting is what made it feel a little cheesy.
Yeah the vocal melody is my favorite part as well. I’d love to hear a slightly shorter and more stripped back version. Wonder if there’s a demo.
There is a demo! Krupa shared it with me when we were talking about this yesterday. Composition-wise, it's also messy, imo, but like the new version, it has some lovely moments.
First the demo then the new version, nice to hear them together.
Oh wow. Definitely sounds more minimal and more like classic Lennon. I do like the new track though. I’m warming up to it more and more. And I just love Paul. Ram, McCartney 1/2, Band on the Run, etc so many amazing albums and singles.
Yea the demo is really nice. Even though Lennon didn't quite finish it, it's still a nice song and very touching.
It's typical Lennon in that I've found it to be a bit of an earwom, sticks in your head for ages.
The cgi Lennon music video is pretty naff overall, Peter Jackson is not a good choice for that (he even admitted that himself), but it doesn't really matter, it's just a music video.
But it's also great to see some positive commercial application of this technology in some of the ways it's supposed to be used, e.g as a scientific tool for cultural preservation rather than the usual exploitation etc
I heard the remixed track first then the demo second. The demo has some awkward transitions, so I can see why they took out the section in the middle and rebuilt it. Maybe if John had worked on it further the finished song would have been very different.
There is also this comparison by David Bennett which I found quite interesting, worth a watch.
I prefer the demo and agree with most of the criticisms of the final version, definitely prefer the original tempo and tone.
Oh, I had the opposite reaction. I found myself getting misty-eyed at multiple times during the video. I guess it may have to do with how influential (or not) The Beatles were during your life? For me, they were a huge influence.
He’s right about the tempo and how it was cut up. It would definitely have been a more melancholic song if it remained closer to the demo.
Oh don’t get me wrong the Beatles have been a huge part of my life. Would listen to them on vinyl as a kid with my grandma and have continued to listen to them in the decades since. There were just a couple of awkward parts (imo of course), but also a couple of parts that tugged at the heart strings.
I think ending the video with them on stage and then slowly fading them out was a fantastic choice.
It was…that was cliched maybe, but poignant, for me anyway. I’m really not a fan of that cover art. Wonder what made them go with that. Do others like it? Something off about it for me. I’m not going to bother analyzing why, other things to waste the old braincells on today, but just thought I’d throw that out there 😂
I am a new Beatles fan. I just started getting into them with the Get Back documentary 2 months ago. It is pretty incredible timing that they released a new song .
I really enjoy the song. It as all the melancholy and drama required from a career closer.
I’m 50/50 on the video - some of it is poignant, but some of it is unimaginative and clichéd. Quite a bit of the visual side of this release doesn’t seem to align well with the musical side.
It also seems poignant to me too but considering how they evolved so quickly and experimentally, the sad thing is that, had he lived, and had they ever regrouped once in a while, who knows what that may have sounded like? Maybe something unexpected and different.
Yes, some of the japes-ing about seemed tone deaf. Other parts worked. Overall, both on the audio and video side, a very mixed bag. Flawed but glad they released it anyway
Yeah, the Beatles seem to have suffered from a slight backlash in recent years. I suppose after so many years of being idolised, some now see it as cool to dismiss them. They evolved like crazy and did some incredible stuff. I never really listen to them any more, but they were a huge influence in my teenage years, especially the White Album.
Yeah the cover art looks like the cover of an album you’d find in the $1 bin lol
Oh cool, what made you get into them now? Just watching the documentary or were you getting into them before that? Curious what’s your favorite album so far.
Peter Jackson is the reason why I decided to watch the documentary. Watching it changed my view of the Beatles but not of Yoko. Then I watched Stella McCartney doc on Abbey Road and Paul doc with Rick Rubin on Disney+.
I wish their was more doc in the style of Let it be following artists as they create an album. It facinate me to see how others approach creativity.
I have not done a linear album per album listen I listen on Spotify random. It's on my list of things to do. The Let it be album I know the most because of the doc would be my favorite so far.
Why did it not change your view of Yoko?
At one time I didn’t appreciate her musical output, but it was Walking on Thin Ice and her tracks on Double Fantasy that changed that - I came to appreciate how she could walk the line between avant garde and more conventional music. It’s doubtful she would have got a record deal without being John’s wife, but she has definitely produced music that I like.
Unfortunately she has been maligned over the years as a negative influence on John, but when you consider the incredible output he produced when they were together I don’t think that’s true musically.
It’s cyclical, I think - cool to love them, then cool to hate them. And then there are the Beatles fans who are constantly litigating who was the coolest. Sort of a treasure trove of dispute.
Kind of like we do with apps here. It means we’re interested.
Who is the fifth person shown several times in the video (playing guitar in the studio next to Paul)? Or is that George Harrison some time ago (but not as young as John)? BTW, for the mixed modern-historical stuff, I think there was no CGI used, it is actual footage, or maybe I misunderstood that.
I believe the footage was cleaned up (also possibly stabilized) and the audio had the voices separated from the instruments using their own machine learning software.