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I suggest waiting until the date. This vendor is slow to ship, but I have found that things do show up eventually.
This vendor isn’t being slow to ship. They have said that they did not ship the item and will not be shipping it.
I got the smk-25 mini today already, very nice. Feels pretty quality for the price, dig the colour, has a fair bit of functionality. Bluetooth connected no probs at all. Perfect size and weight for what I need, not as portable as a sensel morph or whatever, but I would certainly prefer this for playing non mpe instruments.
The midi controller that is the topic of this thead will arrive tmrw. I was just thinking about that one - it has all those buttons. With midi controllers I generally only tend to use knobs and sliders. I know that buttons can have a lot more functions in traditional DAWs, but I'm curious what other AUM users use midi controller buttons to control when working within aum. Obviously I can assign them to mute, solo etc. But what else do ppl control in aum with buttons on a midi controller?
So I received the M-Vave Wireless Midi controller today. I am also using the CubeSuite app.
A question though:
I don’t have access to desktop at the moment, so I can’t check the company’s own software to configure this. However, in CubeSuite at least, there seems to be no way to control whether it works in relative or absolute mode, pickup or jump mode.
Therefore, for my uses, the fact that this is an endless encoder adds zero value whatsoever, as the whole point of using that, for me, would be that it seamlessly picks up from where a value was left after you adjusted that value on the iPad screen.
I think I remember from the chat here that there is indeed desktop software to configure this. Can anyone check whether it is possible to configure a pickup mode there please? If it is possible, I will borrow someone’s laptop and configure it that way, then leave it set up like that.
If it is not possible to configure like that, I will consider returning it, as I can’t see any advantage to the endless encoders in this case, and I already have a Nanokontrol Studio.
It’s a nice little controller for sure though, apart from that. Has a chunkier feeling to it than I was expecting, and pairs nicely, aesthetically, with the SMK-25 Mini.
The buttons can be configured to toggle or be momentary, so there is some flexibility. You can use them to trigger a sound (cowbell). I use them to toggle effects on and off (reverb, chorus, delay, etc.) and for certain switches in music apps like organ percussion.
@Gavinski - pickup mode has to be configured on the receiving app, not the controller.
@Gavinski : in case it isn’t clear from win’s comment, jump and pickup modes are host responses to absolute mode.
Does the unit come configured sending relative or absolute values?
Based on the web site, it looks like on desktop there's a different app for configuring the SMK (keyboard) and the SMC (Mixer / pads) products: MidiSuite.
http://www.cuvave.com/appdownload
Endless encoders are the bomb with Drambo.
Ah! OK, thanks for the clarification. So can that be done in AUM? I don't ever remember seeing settings for this
Using a midi monitor shows that it is sending fixed values, not incremental - if that is the way to check. I have no past experience checking for this. But yes, I think we have had this conversation before, actually, and very few iOS plugins handle pick up mode, is that right? In that case, I can’t really make use of this controller in the way I was hoping.
What do you mean by “fixed values”. When you turn it , does it send values from 0 to 127 (absolute mode values) or something else? If something else, can you be more specific about what gets sent when you turn the knobs to the right and what gets sent when you turn to the left.
Re pickup mode, it is typically the host that handles that not the plugin. Loopy Pro has pickup mode, not sure what other hosts do.
Also, btw, anyone know what the little knob icon (if that is what it is) shown on bottom right of this screenshot of AUM midi control does? By default is is off, greyed out, here it is on so it is lit up in green, but I have no clue what it does.
@Gavinski : I am not seeing a screenshot
Yes I mean it is sending numbers 0-127, so it is absolute mode. Good to know about Loopy Pro, maybe AUM just doesn’t have that ability, if that is the case I will ask Jonatan whether he can implement it.
Yep, forgot to attach, it’s there now
What are the values it’s sending? An encoder generally sends a fixed value when turned clockwise and a different fixed value when turned counter-clockwise. Sometimes they send a higher or lower number if turned faster.
In absolute mode they act like a pot, sending 0-127.
I don’t think AUM has pickup mode (sometimes also referred to as take over mode). I would love to be wrong on that point.
That icon makes the parameter the one controlled by the knob next to the node in the main view.
Congrats on joining the midi controller club @Gavinski! Next you gotta do like me and @jwmmakerofmusic and get a piece of hardware to go along with it 😉
Hehehe! Well we'll see if Gav's up for that.
Ah yeah, ok! Useful, thanks.
Wim, what it is doing is this: twist left and it starts from whichever value 0-127 it was left at, 54, for example, then moves down to zero as you continue twisting left. As you twist right, it starts at whatever value it was left at, and then moves up to 127. If I move the slider inside the AUv3 I am controlling, if I then switch back to using the midi controller, it doesn’t pick up from where I left the slider in the plugin, it always picks up from whichever value, 0-127, it was last at the last time I moved the controller knob.
So, even though those are encoders, they’re configured to act as absolute controllers - basically like pots. The CubeSuite (or MidiSuite software on desktop) may have some way of changing them to act as relative controllers. However, as you’ve noticed, AUM doesn’t work with relative controllers (at least I don’t think so). Drambo does though, and Loopy Pro.
The jumping is due to AUM not having pickup mode (as far as I know).
@Gavinski - just to be sure, are we talking about the SMK keyboard, or the SMC mixer?
The SMC has encoder knobs. The SMK has pots.
That’s as I suspected - there is no way in CubeSuite to configure relative mode that I can see. Without relative mode, I would rather just use pots frankly, as at least I can get visual feedback from looking at the physical knob as to roughly what value it is sending. If someone with access to the desktop app for configuring this controller can check whether it has an option for relative mode, I would be interested to hear whether it does or not. Without it, I don’t see the point of endless encoders. I have emailed Jonatan just now to ask whether he can implement a pickup mode. Seems like a strange feature for AUM to be missing as it has a strong midi feature set. Can apeMatrix handle relative controllers? Curious which hosts on iOS can, I basically only ever use AUM, apart from dipping into ape the very odd time. If ape can’t do it, maybe a good excuse to finally start using Loopy. Thanks for your help!
The SMC mixer. Yes I have both, but here I am taking about the mixer, which arrived this morning
I have the same behavior and do not think it is possible for this controller to do what you want. I think we need the knob to send CC 96 every time a knob is turned clockwise and CC 97 every time a knob is turned counter-clockwise.
Ah, damn, so in this case the whole encoder knobs feature is basically irrelevant? Do you have the desktop app for configuring this Jamie? No option to set it to relative?
I do have the desktop software installed on a Windows laptop and I do not see any incremental options compared to CubeSuite on my iPad (other than the ability to store/recall multiple configurations).