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FWIW, with relative midi, the convention involving 127 is 127 for fine decrement and 1 for fine increment. 0 means no change.
You should check whether your controller sends different values for rapid turns, like 1,2,3 for up, or 126, 125, 124 for down. If so, the script will need to support them as well.
And, if you're referring to the CC96 and 97 commands previously mentioned, they will not work for normal parameters, only the rather arcane RPN and NRPN values. Notice that those CCs don't reference a specific parameter; they must be preceded by a pair of CCs to select the RPN or NRPN to be adjusted.
I see this controller is now available at Ali Express for $11.35 USD
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256806175186123.html
It says expected arrival is in March. Some of the vendors seem reliable but some aren’t. And the way it is set up , you can’t even start the refund process on an unshipped order until after the scheduled arrival has passed —even if the vendor admits that they are not going to ship your purchase.
This is a typical ploy for Ali sites. You notice the midi mixer is not the chosen item on this page, when you click the mixer picture at the bottom the price changes to around $35 (edit $43) which is a price similar to other Ali vendors.
Aha - you are correct. Very sneaky of them. Boo!!!
Mine smc arrives on Saturday. Bought for $37.61 on Ali ("EDIY Musical Instrument Store")
I just had a second vendor mark mixer as shipped AND send me a message telling me to cancel the order — which you cannot do when an item is marked as shipped. The message said that they returned all the product to the manufacturer because of quality issues.
Didn't know that ali sellers have some high quality standards
It's always a lottery, with rare exceptions
You lucked out. The vendor you purchased from is the first one I tried. They took three weeks to refund my money…and sent me a message that they were not going to ship the item even though the status was marked as shipped.
I recently bought their 3-in-1 controller (keys, pads and faders) for a stupid price. Got it to replace the sturdier Arturia controller I own but is just too big, and the Korg ones I have (nk2 and Keys) are great too but I wanted a portable Everything one.
Works well with Ableton, Maschine and iPad, for the plugins/apps I tested so far.
I'm sure the subject in matter works well.
New product is coming...
■ MIDI controller equipped with wireless functionality for music production.
■ Battery-operated design ensures continuous music creation anytime, anywhere.
■ Compatible with most poppular DAW for seamless integration.
■ Backlit silicon buttons designed for quiet yet tactile responsiveness.
■ Eight groups of 360-degree rotary encoders, fully assignable for detailed tweaking.
■ Sixteen RGB back-lit pads with velocity-sensitive & aftertouch.
■ Features 3.5mm MIDI out port, enabling direct connections to external gear.
■ Note Repeat function, adding depth to rhythmic patterns and performance dynamics.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=QSYdv2-6i-c&ab_channel=M-VAVE
Might not be available until January 2025 (according to the comments under the video), but looks like another inexpensive, decent option from "M-Vave." (FYI, I decided to pronounce it "mmm-vahvay")
The comment you've mentioned is from last year, so it's probably Jan.2024
btw, now available only on wholesale, we'll see retail prices...
https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/16-Drum-Pad-MIDI-Controller-With_1601012806279.html?spm=a2700.shop_plgr.89.2.3bae9a1bTDWREy
I get it that most of us will try and get stuff at the lowest possible price but this is getting silly. It seems like we all understand by now that the whole heavily discounted goods end up not being sent with the seller withholding the funds for ages. Isn’t is much simpler just to select the asking price? These people work with ridiculously small margins not to mention whomever is actually putting these units together, packing, shipping.
Or is it some kind of game where we try to outdo each other on who gets it cheaper?
Other than the above considerations these units have next to 0 customer support, iffy quality and software support that is likely below the standards of Novation, Korg….etc.
By all means, continue but I’d personally would be going for the big names with established seller as well as online community support.
There’s also that saying: ‘the poor man pays twice’ or something along those lines.
I’m not even getting into the environmental effect of buying items with likely a short lifespan.
I’m not preaching just sharing my thoughts. I am the poor man from a developed country who paid twice way too many times already.
I've just received this device and experimented a bit with default DAW mode (mackie control) on Windows. No issues in Ableton and a couple of minor issues in Reaper. And, of course, those bright leds
In user mode, every control sends CC as expected, iOS BLE connectivity works, so overall first impressions are very positive!
Are you talking about the 16-pad controller you lonked to a few posts up?
Are the knobs endless encoders? Are the pad colors user configurable?
No, the topic subject, smc mixer
How does the build quality seem? The Chocolate seems to be solidly built which really surprised me.
Looks solid, good plastic, good controls feeling, far beyond my DIY arduino midi controllers
I am very impressed with the build quality of both the SMK25 Mini and the SMC Mixer. They both feel really solid, knobs etc, sliders have a nice feel to them for sth of this price and materials. Only time will tell, of course, but I am thrilled with mine, for this money.
Does anyone know if there is an alternative to Korg BLE MIDI driver for Windows?
I really don't. Every time I've looked at BLE MIDI support for Windows I come away empty handed or just totally confused.
Hi all,
According to operational videos from youtube, their alternative midi keyboard controller - M-vave SMK-25 has 8 pages of presets you can save and use on the device. There’s also some kind of shift function, where you can use 1-8 knobs as 9-16th, as well as the pads.
You can see that on the editor screenshot i made.
This is the most exiting feature for me to have not just fixed 1-8 sliders and 1-8 knobs, but double it per one preset. How do you think, will they be able to offer it in OS updates or maybe it is already possible?
My unit is on the way, so i can’t check it yet.
I ended up picking up the Novation Launch Control XL, could always Bluetooth and battery power it later if needed, using the M-Vave USB dongle and power bank.
I've owned the Novation and it is great. It can store multiple templates. Very solid construction. Better than the Akai.
Yes the eight user templates swayed it and it certainly looked more substantial than the Akai, hopefully it should work well in conjunction with my Push 3 for more hands on tweaking.
My smc-mixer arrived. The build quality seems good.
The endless encoders can be used for relative midi . Set them to CW not CC and set left to 127 and right to 1.
I might see if a quick streambyter script would work to convert the DAW mode setup mapping to work so that setup of the individual knobs isn’t needed.
At $35 , it is a great value if it lasts.
I'm quite happy with this gadget after a week's usage. However, I haven't managed to connect it to Windows using BLE (but this must be local issue, only Korg nanoKey studio works quite well on my notebook over BLE). In a week, I believe, I'll receive M-wave Chocolate pedal with their ble-midi usb adaptor, possibly it could handle the problem.
Otherwise, everything is Ok for now - USB Windows connectivity (DAW mode - Ableton, Reaper), iOS over BLE (user mode) - no issues.
I was surprised by the possibility to assign SysEx messages to buttons, I think this is no so common feature for MIDI controllers.
I've a technical question for you. In relative mode, what do the encoders send for a fast turn, say 180° in a wrist snap. Do they send larger numbers, or just a whole lot of 1's (32 maybe)?
My XTouch Mini can send values as high as 6 (actually 70, since it centers at 64). I used that to implement an acceleration table, so a quick turn can go full-scale, even though slow turning takes 2 full turns for full scale.