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Apple's press release about changes to EU App Store
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Spotify CEO Daniel EK today wrote a blog post criticizing the app ecosystem changes that Apple implemented in the European Union under the Digital Markets Act, accusing Apple of putting forward "a new plan that is a complete and total farce" under "the false pretense of compliance and concessions."
Ek says that Apple doesn't "think the rules apply to them," and he believes that most app developers are not going to be able to adopt Apple's new terms.
Now I'm getting pissed off at Apple
I hope the EU nail them to the wall.
Exactly!
These people are like those that buy a house next to an airport and THEN complain about the noise. The same can be said for those complaining they cannot install what they want. They bought the product KNOWING the conditions, and then start complaining about it. And another analogy, they are the same people who do damage to themselves through their own negligence or stupidity, and THEN decided they need to blame someone else and sue them. Or alternatively beseech governments to protect them from themselves haha!
Oh and on the subject of warranties, afaik, warranties are for the hardware only, and as all these matters being discussed are software related, there are no warranties at all. I believe software has always been an "as is, where is" proposition - IE install at your own risk.
Yikes, maybe I shouldn’t have posted the press release after all 😂
(side note, Daniel Ek is the last person in the world who should be talking about upholding any sort of rights)
Keep in mind that Ek is a direct competitor of Apple. I would take anything that a competitor says with a grain of salt. Ek is not someone I’d be looking to for honest defense of the average person’s interests — or of the interests of creatives.
This isn’t to say I love the App Store eco-system, but the unnuanced views in this thread overlook that there are legitimate issues on both sides of the debate.
Like someone else has hinted in this thread, before Apple gets "nailed to the wall" by EU regulations, they'll just ditch the EU market. They're only about 25% of Apple's profits. If operating costs and overhead exceed those 25%, they'll just take a proper business decision. Let's see how much EU regulation customers are still craving THEN 😄
Oh, boy. Cry me a river Mozilla spokesman. Haha.
That's actually hilarious. IpadOS is basically the same as iOS but EU law makers almost completely ignore it. So ipad music makers would not benefit too much from all this "app purchasing freedom".
It's not about using Honda parts in Audi. It's about an ability to use Audi compatible parts without the Audi trademark and perhaps 20 to 50% cheaper but the same as original.
That's very much a fantasy what you are imagining.
Except those 50% cheaper parts will break faster, causing more damage to your finely tuned Audi. Will you then sue Audi because of your own lack of foresight?
There is so much uproar about this topic ATM 😄
Isn’t it on one side the security minded or free market economy and on the other side the curious/adventurous or social liberal personality?
I wonder if that’s also tied to geo politics. If Europe in general is more on the social liberal spectrum while the USA are more on the liberal economic side. Or if that’s completely mixed. I have no idea.
But interesting to see how so many people clash over this topic.
As a European I’m more on the social liberal (let the government intervene if necessary) side plus rather curious than security minded. But I also can understand why people might be concerned about the security of a system or government control.
Maybe that’s all too simplified but I find it interesting.
Ek also failed to remove white nationalist artists and COVID misinformation from the platform until artist boycotts forced him to do so.
I’d be surprised if Apple bailed on the EU 25% is a huge percentage. And the EU’s decision is the sort of move they can expect elsewhere down the road.
I suspect that > @michael_m said:
He (like almost all people running streaming services) is devoted to finding ways to provide content at the lowest possible cost to Spotify(i.e. how to not pay creators for content).
LOL. No way is apple going to not sell apps in the EU. If they did that they wouldn't have a phone market etc...
Sorry, let's rephrase it in a more objective way: "average people".
Spontaneously, I'd say one that in the mid- to long-term leads to benefits for the majority in terms of quality-of-life, health, etc.
I'm not dogmatic and I don't know what "faux-liberal" means. I'm mostly apolitical. I just try to look at things as if I came from Mars, and then make my conclusions!
I honestly can't say if voting makes any difference, as you might have guessed from my previous ramblings 😄 So I get you I think.
😄 I've seen memes to that end, but I wasn't sure if that is actually a real thing. I do sit at places like Starbucks or Costa sometimes, but only because I like coffee and otherwise would never see a single other human being... 😉
In the context of this discussion it's about having the choice buddy. Of buying software elsewhere. You don't need apple to protect you. I think we are all adults here. Whatever software you choose to use it's your responsibility.
Agreed. If it's "only" 25% of their sales, it's millions $ in revenues.
Apple invested the time and money to develop the hardware and the software for their products and one knows what to expect when one purchases Apple.
At this point, everyone knows if you want the Android experience, you get an Android device. If you want the Apple experience you get an iPhone/iPad, etc. This is about their competitors demanding access to the most profitable platform so they can peddle their wares instead of simply offering their products through Apple's App Store and paying the appropriate commission (15-30%).
I understand one can trade all of their Apple devices in for credit to buy Samsung products. Ah, but here's the thing... there are so few developers spending their time and money to develop for Samsung's devices.
https://www.samsung.com/us/trade-in/
I'm not sure they have grounds to do that. It looks as though they're complying to the letter of the law, if not the spirit. Right or wrong, Apple found the Achilles heel of the legislation and exploited it.
It'll be interesting to see if they amend the legislation or find some way to rule that Apple isn't complying. I suspect that they'll have to amend the legislation.
Yet, knowing that you made the decision to buy it anyway.
I don't disagree with you on that point.
I like to think I control my own brain. I purchased my first iPad 2 more than a decade ago. As a long-time Windows guy I was skeptical of the closed architecture, but immediately appreciated the low hassle of it. Since then I've objectively made the decision whether to continue purchasing Apple devices each time. I will continue to do evaluate each, and will abandon Apple in a heartbeat if something I feel is better comes along. You won't find me complaining about the consequences of my decisions as though they were made at gunpoint though.
I don't like everything Apple does. I choose whether to accept it or not with my wallet each time I make a purchase decision, as do you. The difference is I don't expect a government to swoop in and force Apple to compensate if I don't like the consequences of those choices.
I fully respect people have vastly different views on when and how governments should intervene in free markets. My opinions are utterly subjective and I don't expect anyone to share them.
If you're trying to convince me that more freedom to do as I please with my Apple devices is desirable, there's no need. I agree on that. If you're trying to convince me that government should force them to do that, then you're correct, you won't convince me and there's no point in continuing this.
As I've tried to make clear, I'm all for opening up the platform, and wish Apple would willingly go that direction. I think it would benefit everyone. But I'm not going to rant about it as though I'm being abused, when I had every opportunity to make other decisions.
But yeh, we're not going to have a meeting of the minds. There's no reason we need to. Diversity of opinion is good.
I won’t be burning anyone alive… the ducking stool is how we roll in my village. 😉
No there was no sarcasm and I don’t think ill of Americans, I just recognise there are cultural differences around that issue.
In my experience, our UK gov is quite corrupt, but actually facilitating private businesses (corporations) to milk the taxpayer. We saw this a lot through covid and it resulted in unnecessary deaths. Without a government/state in capitalism, i reckon it would likely have been even worse… cos governments want to get elected next time so they do a balancing act. Whereas plenty of corporations would have still been selling out of date or below spec protective equipment.
We exist in neo-liberalism and largely, those entities are functioning hand in hand with each other.
Liberalism is a nice idea… it has a big flaw… people. You tend not to get a fair agreement between unequal parties.
Frankly I don't see the distinction.
Isn't the real problem that too many people are corrupt and that both governments and corporations are run by them? Both are equally open to corruption. Where the pendulum swings doesn't always matter does it?
The only question is whether power leads to corruption, or power simply attracts corruption, or whether corruption leads to power. Likely all of the above.
Soon AI will run both. Then it'll get interesting. At least until we all die.
Here's the difference between corporate corruption and government corruption. Companies answer to their customers and dissatisfied customers lead to companies going out of business. Governments are monopolies and they aren't entirely responsive or responsible to anyone. Theoretically voters can vote out the corrupt, but the corrupt system remains. The only way to really be rid of a corrupt government is to get rid of it entirely... and that does not happen easily in "civilized" countries.
The comment about "A.I." running things soon might be accurate. In fact, it might be happening now already. Projections about A.I. becoming ubiquitous and used by nearly everyone might even have to be adjusted to be even sooner due to demand. I mean, seriously who wouldn't want to have an assistant that could practically read your mind about nearly everything you're thinking about and then give it to you?
I have a retort to that but I'm gonna leave off before things get too political.