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Digitakt II - Official thread

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  • Koala is very fun, but is software.

    The same with Ableton Live. The 12 Suite is enormous, amazing, I love it, but again, is software. I don't make music for anyone, I play music for FUN. And for me, physical is infinitely more fun.

  • edited April 25

    @mistercharlie said:

    @A_Fox said:

    Has anybody mentioned that Koala Sampler is all you need yet? ;)

    +1. I haven’t taken my Digitakt out of its drawer in months.

    Let's be real: anyone into sampling will tell you that no one sampler is all you need. :grin:

    I think of it more like this: if you're into sampling, you definitely need Koala, because there's no substitute for a sampler you will always have with you when a sound pricks your ears and you really want to capture it.

    Then have something else too, for the things Koala doesn't do. (Multisampling, physical pads, more advanced sequencer, etc.)

  • So this is going to be the official Digitakt 2 thread? Maybe change the name.

  • @kirmesteggno said:

    Does the USB work with the iPad? My impression was that it works only with a desktop and overbridge.

    Is usb compliant, so works nicely with iPad, 2audioin-out and Midi

    Thanks.

    @kirmesteggno said:

    Are you going to use any other gear or controllers or do you perform it all on the Digitakt? The preset switching on the fly on the DT2 looked really interesting for performances.

    My idea is use Digitakt as a "drum/sample brain" with iPad for different synths.

    My current setup is iPad for anything (fx, synth, drum, etc)
    0coast / Little Modular as a synth voice
    Launchkontrol XL / 88 keyboard for playing
    Ableton

    Not sure if I'd use it as a sample brain beyond drums, afaik you can't really layer sounds on single tracks or change the slice points manually. I'm interested in it just for drums and some beeps, so basically strictly rhythm stuff.

    It's something I often do in Koala, drop in a noise sample or drone, play with the length/start and end points and pingpong loop features until it fits rhythmically, and then grab the whole area at the top and shift it along the sample and get "controlled suprises" this way, and then duplicate the pad if I like it.

    Here's an example with a quick Techno beat in Koala standalone: https://streamable.com/f3sm9e

    The drone in that video was AI generated with Udio 😁

  • @colorsinspace said:
    So this is going to be the official Digitakt 2 thread? Maybe change the name.

    done

  • @Mies_van_der_Robot said:
    Let's be real: anyone into sampling will tell you that no one sampler is all you need. :grin:

    well, MK2 solved ALL things i missed on MK1. Now it is PERFECT sampler for me. Not needed any future update whatsover. Missing literally zero features for my workflow ;)

  • @dendy said:

    @cyberheater said:

    @OnfraySin said:
    I still play my dumb-condition upright piano.

    Why? Because exists in physical world

    Same with Koala vs Digitakt.

    Which is why I’ve started going hardware. Hard to beat that tactile feel.

    well, with all respect koala isn’t really competition for Digitakt (not even MK1) … multimode filters, 2 audio ratr LFOs, envelopes,etc … koala is just basic sampler, Digitakt is much much more…

    It’s funny. I’ve seen a lot of Koala vs Digitakt battles on YouTube and it’s amazing how many people think the Koala version of a track sounds better.

  • Digitakt and also Drambo and other sequencers are way better for smart randomization and beat programming, in Koala you have to record things manually for variations. It's not a problem for drum breaks, sample based Hip Hop if you sample records and flip those samples because they already sound quite organic to begin with, but for electronic music it's not the best option without an external sequencer.

    For Techno I'm using Koala mostly for noise samples, drones and FX oneshots. For Drums i'm using Drumcomputer and Axon 3 inside AUM, and thats what the Digitakt would mainly replace.

    I send hats and percussion into sends with Replicant, Dials and other delays and filters creating more layers on top which I then record as individual tracks. Having these layers is kinda crucial for the modern techno style I want to produce.

    I wonder if I can route some of the Digitakt drum tracks into the iPad in parallel, kinda like using sends on a drum track in AUM.

  • @dendy said:

    @Mies_van_der_Robot said:
    Let's be real: anyone into sampling will tell you that no one sampler is all you need. :grin:

    well, MK2 solved ALL things i missed on MK1. Now it is PERFECT sampler for me. Not needed any future update whatsover. Missing literally zero features for my workflow ;)

    For me a looper and/or a granular machine would make it so perfect! Imagine 16 granular machines going at once!?

  • edited April 25

    I kind of think it's a sweet unit, but my conscience says to focus on what I already have and got. Between my iPad apps like Drambo, Koala, AUM and my Launchcontrol XL, then my desktop wth Ableton... they all can do more than enough. It's just about pure focus and getting out as much as I can with what I already own. My 2 cents.

  • @rs2000 said:
    I hoped for most of the new features in a Digitakt firmware update but instead they're releasing a new hardware unit 😢
    And still monophonic audio tracks and only 4 voices polyphony in MIDI tracks.
    Gotta wait for DT3 I guess 🤪

    And it’s “polyphony” in the sense of block note stacks with the same start and length. Team Drambo for me it is 😂

  • @kirmesteggno said:

    Not sure if I'd use it as a sample brain beyond drums, afaik you can't really layer sounds on single tracks or change the slice points manually. I'm interested in it just for drums and some beeps, so basically strictly rhythm stuff.

    Yeah, this is not true. You can change anything about a sample on any step. You can use a different sample on any track on any step, the start point, endpoint, loop direction, all effects, conditions, etc. I don't know why you would want to layer sounds but you can always resample two or more tracks down to one.

    Also, it's not just rhythm stuff at all. ANYTHING can be melodic. The single cycle waveforms make awesome synths on it.

    Genuine question, have you watched any of the launch videos on it from Elektron?

  • @MadGav said:

    @rs2000 said:
    I hoped for most of the new features in a Digitakt firmware update but instead they're releasing a new hardware unit 😢
    And still monophonic audio tracks and only 4 voices polyphony in MIDI tracks.
    Gotta wait for DT3 I guess 🤪

    And it’s “polyphony” in the sense of block note stacks with the same start and length. Team Drambo for me it is 😂

    Yes! Since going deeper with Drambo, the Digitakt kinda sits there waiting for its next drum machine job ;)

  • @dendy said:

    @Mies_van_der_Robot said:
    Let's be real: anyone into sampling will tell you that no one sampler is all you need. :grin:

    well, MK2 solved ALL things i missed on MK1. Now it is PERFECT sampler for me. Not needed any future update whatsover. Missing literally zero features for my workflow ;)

    Yeah man, this thing is perfect. KITS! KITS! KITS! I think this is my favorite feature. And the comb filter. Three LFO's on a comb filter for a bass sound, resample it, do that again...Reese bass.

    Also all this talk about 16bit or whatever. I just listen to the actual music people are cranking out and "whatever bitrate that is" is good enough for me. Hell, I'm using the bitREDUCTION all the time anyway, so why do I care about 24bit?

    It's not a Daw. Even in Ableton, I'm not using 24bit 96K across the board. Like...rarely even. It's about the sound of whatever you are doing in the context of what you are doing that matters. If you need a full orchestral score, for example, you would not reach for a Digitakt 😂

    Also, you absolutely cannot use Koala at the speed at which you can use a Digitakt. You cannot come close to dialing in fine adjustments like you can on the Digitakt. I think most people that ding the Elektrons have never actually used one, or if they have, not for very long.

  • edited April 26

    @kirmesteggno said:
    This is the easiest to digest video about the Digitakt 2 I've seen so far:

    Would this work?

    Just noticed one EXTREMELY important thing in Loopop review.

    THERE IS NO AVAILABLE OVERBRIDGE for DIGITAKT MK2 for now !!! It will be later available, but for now it is not. Means no multitrack audio over USB for now.

  • qqqqqq
    edited April 26

    For those who are lusting after the euclidean sequencing in the Digitakt II (& Rytm II), I made this Drambo rack does the same euclidean comparison magic o:) . Its actually even more powerful because you can still use Drambo's euclidean accents and note values to make complex rhythms.

    https://patchstorage.com/euclidean-logic/

  • @qqq said:
    For those who are lusting after the euclidean sequencing in the Digitakt II (& Rytm II), I made this Drambo rack does the same euclidean comparison magic o:) . Its actually even more powerful because you can still use Drambo's euclidean accents and note values to make complex rhythms.

    https://patchstorage.com/euclidean-logic/

    That's awesome! Is it shareable?

  • @Antos3345 said:

    @qqq said:
    For those who are lusting after the euclidean sequencing in the Digitakt II (& Rytm II), I made this Drambo rack does the same euclidean comparison magic o:) . Its actually even more powerful because you can still use Drambo's euclidean accents and note values to make complex rhythms.

    https://patchstorage.com/euclidean-logic/

    That's awesome! Is it shareable?

    The link is above the video if that's what you mean :smile: If you want to post it other places of course :wink:

  • @OnfraySin said:

    @kirmesteggno said:

    Does the USB work with the iPad? My impression was that it works only with a desktop and overbridge.

    Is usb compliant, so works nicely with iPad, 2audioin-out and Midi

    Huge shortcoming of the DT as an audio interface for the iPad is that you can’t access the input jacks on the DT to record directly into the iPad. At least that’s the case on the DT1 and I don’t see anywhere that has changed. This is a big omission, and one that I don’t understand.

    @kirmesteggno said:

    Are you going to use any other gear or controllers or do you perform it all on the Digitakt? The preset switching on the fly on the DT2 looked really interesting for performances.

    My idea is use Digitakt as a "drum/sample brain" with iPad for different synths.

    My current setup is iPad for anything (fx, synth, drum, etc)
    0coast / Little Modular as a synth voice
    Launchkontrol XL / 88 keyboard for playing
    Ableton

    One big issue I have with the “old” Digitakt is that when you setup midi tracks to send to iPad synths or apps, the only way you have of saving these is in a project, and then you have to “rebuild” all your sample tracks. I guess the new kit and preset features are going to be really helpful in this.
    Will you be able to save a preset to control a specific iPad synth?. So you’d have a preset track for koala, one for IVCS3 or whatever…. Can you load presets per midi track?

  • I wouldn’t consider purchasing a 1000€ gadget having the iPad, it’s against my beliefs. But it’s the Digitakt… best piece and most fun piece of hardware I’ve even owned. It’s got that magical thing, and the knobs must be coated with heroin because they feel too good 😊
    That said, we badly need a proper iOS app to manage the DT library. The elk-herd web app is amazing but doesn’t work on iPad, and the existing specific iOS app for managing the DT sucks, it’s terrible and a waste of money.

  • @tahiche said:
    I wouldn’t consider purchasing a 1000€ gadget having the iPad, it’s against my beliefs. But it’s the Digitakt… best piece and most fun piece of hardware I’ve even owned. It’s got that magical thing, and the knobs must be coated with heroin because they feel too good 😊
    That said, we badly need a proper iOS app to manage the DT library. The elk-herd web app is amazing but doesn’t work on iPad, and the existing specific iOS app for managing the DT sucks, it’s terrible and a waste of money.

    I really wish Apple would allow Chrome browser with webMidi. It would open up so many possibilities.

  • @tahiche said:
    Will you be able to save a preset to control a specific iPad synth?. So you’d have a preset track for koala, one for IVCS3 or whatever…. Can you load presets per midi track?

    With the kits features, I think so.

  • @tahiche said:
    One big issue I have with the “old” Digitakt is that when you setup midi tracks to send to iPad synths or apps, the only way you have of saving these is in a project, and then you have to “rebuild” all your sample tracks. I guess the new kit and preset features are going to be really helpful in this.

    Ep! You can passthrough the audio from external inputs of Digitakt to iPad! Even process the signal with reverb or delay like an insert!

  • Different sites are flooded now with people wanting to get rid of their trusted old Digitakts and getting this…

    Well-done Elektron I I say!🇸🇪🇸🇪👏👏

    /DMfan🇸🇪

  • @dendy said:

    @kirmesteggno said:
    This is the easiest to digest video about the Digitakt 2 I've seen so far:

    Would this work?

    Just noticed one EXTREMELY important thing in Loopop review.

    THERE IS NO AVAILABLE OVERBRIDGE for DIGITAKT MK2 for now !!! It will be later available, but for now it is not. Means no multitrack audio over USB for now.

    Thanks for letting me know!

  • @dendy said:

    @kirmesteggno said:
    This is the easiest to digest video about the Digitakt 2 I've seen so far:

    Would this work?

    Just noticed one EXTREMELY important thing in Loopop review.

    THERE IS NO AVAILABLE OVERBRIDGE for DIGITAKT MK2 for now !!! It will be later available, but for now it is not. Means no multitrack audio over USB for now.

    The hardware platform is different from OG DT, so they need to rewrite all the Overbridge implementation

  • @OnfraySin said:

    @dendy said:

    @kirmesteggno said:
    This is the easiest to digest video about the Digitakt 2 I've seen so far:

    Would this work?

    Just noticed one EXTREMELY important thing in Loopop review.

    THERE IS NO AVAILABLE OVERBRIDGE for DIGITAKT MK2 for now !!! It will be later available, but for now it is not. Means no multitrack audio over USB for now.

    The hardware platform is different from OG DT, so they need to rewrite all the Overbridge implementation

    Let's hope they include iOS. Are people demanding iOS Overbridge support in their forums?

  • @kirmesteggno said:

    @OnfraySin said:

    @dendy said:

    @kirmesteggno said:
    This is the easiest to digest video about the Digitakt 2 I've seen so far:

    Would this work?

    Just noticed one EXTREMELY important thing in Loopop review.

    THERE IS NO AVAILABLE OVERBRIDGE for DIGITAKT MK2 for now !!! It will be later available, but for now it is not. Means no multitrack audio over USB for now.

    The hardware platform is different from OG DT, so they need to rewrite all the Overbridge implementation

    Let's hope they include iOS. Are people demanding iOS Overbridge support in their forums?

    Nop

  • @OnfraySin said:

    @kirmesteggno said:

    @OnfraySin said:

    @dendy said:

    @kirmesteggno said:
    This is the easiest to digest video about the Digitakt 2 I've seen so far:

    Would this work?

    Just noticed one EXTREMELY important thing in Loopop review.

    THERE IS NO AVAILABLE OVERBRIDGE for DIGITAKT MK2 for now !!! It will be later available, but for now it is not. Means no multitrack audio over USB for now.

    The hardware platform is different from OG DT, so they need to rewrite all the Overbridge implementation

    Let's hope they include iOS. Are people demanding iOS Overbridge support in their forums?

    Nop

    Strange considering that the iPad thread over there is quite active. Even Ricky Tinez did a video on Logic a while ago. A good iOS integration would be a big win for "Dawless" or "Mouseless".

  • @kirmesteggno said:

    @OnfraySin said:

    @kirmesteggno said:

    @OnfraySin said:

    @dendy said:

    @kirmesteggno said:
    This is the easiest to digest video about the Digitakt 2 I've seen so far:

    Would this work?

    Just noticed one EXTREMELY important thing in Loopop review.

    THERE IS NO AVAILABLE OVERBRIDGE for DIGITAKT MK2 for now !!! It will be later available, but for now it is not. Means no multitrack audio over USB for now.

    The hardware platform is different from OG DT, so they need to rewrite all the Overbridge implementation

    Let's hope they include iOS. Are people demanding iOS Overbridge support in their forums?

    Nop

    Strange considering that the iPad thread over there is quite active. Even Ricky Tinez did a video on Logic a while ago. A good iOS integration would be a big win for "Dawless" or "Mouseless".

    iPad is not Dawless. At least not for me. And maybe the thread is active, but IRL, a few people uses iPad as a primary gadget on a music setup

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