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Not a lot to say except this is very lovely. It has a peacful and contemplative feel to it. A little sad perhaps, but I guess it's one of those tracks where your feelings are reflected back to you-- just like water.
I didn't mind the length! Nice song with something interesting to say. Arrangement wise and lyrically, it reminds me of the 60s conscious songs but from an older and experienced POV.
The subject also made me think of how, imo, my peers have become like our elders in many interesting ways.
Very cinematic sounding piece. Suspenseful. Everything sounds so well balanced. Great track.
I have listened to both versions. All the instrumentation is beautifully put together and produced. It’s right up my street with a retro 80s tinge to it. Really nice. I’ll be honest, IMHO it is crying out for a real vocalist! The vocals follow a lovely melody. I don’t really have a preference between the two versions.
I appreciate you finding the mix balanced, great feedback thank you.
Cool track. I like the 80s inspired backing music and there are some nice melodies. To be truthful, I’m not a huge fan of the AI vocals. I think these kinds of synthetic vocals (such as vocoder which I think would suit the song well) work better when there are fewer lyrics and much less vocals overall in the arrangement. I’ve always kept the words to a minimum in my songs when I use vocoders for that reason as they can get annoying quickly.
But it’s a good song nonetheless — whether or not you like the sound of the vocals is a taste thing. I’ve always liked vocoded vocals, but I have never liked the heavily auto-tuned vocal sound that these AI vocals remind me of.
Agreed.
My (long) entry for this month. Given the content of the lyrics, it was meant to make the listener feel uncomfortable. Hopefully that's what you'll get😉. The experience is even more unsettling if you understand the lyrics.
Here's a link to the original thread with more details about the track:
https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/59331/le-passeur-de-sangatte-experimental-alt-rock-with-a-touch-of-free-jazz
Le Passeur de Sangatte by ORIPEAUXLyrics in the spoiler:
PART I : LA DUNE
J'ai pris ma place sur le haut de la dune,
Tous les soirs j'y reviens.
S'annonce encore une belle nuit sans lune,
Dans la brume et les embruns.
Je ne suis personne et pourtant je suis quelqu'un,
L'anomymat, j'y tiens.
Tous les soirs je viens en haut de cette dune,
Je ne viens pas pour profiter de son panorama,
Et pas plus des oyats.
J'y viens pour contempler mon entreprise,
Les cheveux dans la brise.
En contrebas sur la plage de Sangatte
Bientôt commencera la régate
Je vois tous mes petits pantins s'avancer.
Certains sont en train de prier.
Aujourd'hui ils sont près d'une centaine,
Et la mer est incertaine...
J'ai pris ma place sur le haut de la dune.
Tous les soirs j'y reviens.
J'avoue que l'être humain me fascine,
Dans la brume et les embruns.
Quel que soit le poids de leur bagage.
Qu'ils aient échappé au carnage,
Aux sécheresses, à la faim,
Ils espèrent en demain.
Je ne fais que recruter des equipages,
Fournir l'accastillage.
J'embarque les espérances dans mes radeaux,
Parasitant l'Eldorado.
PART II : CHARON ET LA MANCHE-ACHÉRON
Je suis le passeur d'âmes
Que le destin réclame.
Je suis le Roi des Aulnes
Bien assis sur son trône,
Le dérobeur d'enfants,
La terreur des parents.
La Manche tient dans ma main,
J'en ai fait l'Achéron.
Mon surnom est Charon.
Je pourvois aux démons.
Je transporte les âmes
Que le destin réclame.
Je n'ai pas d'état d'âme
C’est pas mon genre de came.
Ils m'appellent, je décroche.
Et je leur fais les poches.
Je couvre la demande,
Je saisis les commandes,
Je signe les bordereaux,
Refourgue les canots
Sans police d'assurances,
Juste un petit peu d'essence
Et qu'ils perdent la vie,
C’est le cadet de mes soucis.
Je suis le passeur d'âmes
Que le destin réclame.
PART III : LA TEMPÊTE
La nuit est tombée sur le haut de la dune,
Mon troupeau a disparu.
Tous les soirs je les vois s'éloigner,
Dévorés par les vagues.
A l'horizon j'aperçois le cortège de cargos,
Leurs feux illuminés.
Ils doivent éviter ces grandes murailles,
Et leurs machoires de fer.
Je sais que certains ne feront pas de ce voyage,
Ce qu'ils en attendaient.
Demain matin, je n'irai pas sur la dune,
La Mer y vomit ses noyés.
D'autres auront atteint Dover ou London,
Le Beau Joe les attend.
Qu'ils pourrissent dans les égouts de Brighton,
Ou dans un avion du Rwanda.
L'Europe est une pieuvre impérieuse et gourmande
Elle a toujours faim...
Oh insatiable Europe !
Toi qui a toujours faim...
Je suis ton petit poisson pilote.
Je m'engraisse sur les restes de tes fins.
Oh insatiable Europe !
Toi qui a toujours faim...
Je suis ton petit poisson pilote.
Je m'engraisse sur les restes de tes fins.
Oh insatiable Europe.
Allez vas-y, nourris moi !
Nourris moi encore.
Allez! Encore un peu.
Oh insatiable Europe !
Here's an attempt of translation in English:
PART I: THE DUNE
I took my place on top of the dune,
Every evening, I return.
Another beautiful moonless night unfolds,
In the mist and sea spray.
I am nobody, yet I am someone,
Anonymity, I cherish.
Every evening, I come to the top of this dune,
Not to enjoy the panorama,
Nor the beach grass.
I come to contemplate my endeavor,
Hair in the breeze.
Below on Sangatte beach,
The regatta will soon begin.
I see all my puppets advancing.
Some are in prayer.
Today, they are close to a hundred,
And the sea is uncertain...
I took my place on top of the dune.
Every evening, I return.
I confess that the human being fascinates me,
In the mist and sea spray.
Regardless of the weight of their baggage,
Whether they've escaped carnage, Drought, hunger,
They hope for tomorrow.
I only recruit crews,
Supply the rigging.
I embark hopes in my rafts,
Parasitizing their El Dorado.
PART II: CHARON AND THE CHANNEL-ACHERON
I am the ferryman of souls,
Demanded by destiny.
I am the King of the Alders
Seated firmly on his throne,
The child-stealer,
The terror of parents.
The Channel rests in my hand,
I've made it the Acheron.
They call me Charon.
I provide for the demons.
I transport the souls,
Demanded by destiny.
I have no qualms, It's not my kind of thing.
They call me, I answer,
And I empty their pockets.
I meet the demand,
I take the orders,
I sign the slip sheets,
Unload the boats
Without insurance policy,
Just a little fuel,
And if they lose their lives,
It's the least of my worries.
I am the ferryman of souls,
Demanded by destiny.
PART III: THE STORM
Night has fallen on top of the dune,
My herd has vanished.
Every evening, I see them drift away,
Devoured by the waves.
On the horizon,
I see the procession of cargo ships,
Their illuminated lights.
They must avoid these great walls,
And their iron jaws.
I know some won't make of this journey, What they expected.
Tomorrow morning,
I won't go to the dune,
The Sea spews its drowned there.
Others will have reached Dover or London,
Bo-Jo awaits them.
Whether they rot in Brighton's sewers,
Or in a plane to Rwanda.
Europe is an imperious and voracious octopus,
It is always hungry...
Oh insatiable Europe!
You who are always hungry...
I am your little pilot fish.
I fatten myself on the remains of your feasts.
Oh insatiable Europe!
You who are always hungry...
I am your little pilot fish.
I fatten myself on the remains of your feasts.
Oh insatiable Europe.
Come on, feed me!
Feed me again.
Come on!
A little more.
Oh insatiable Europe!
@JanKun what an epic. What a journey. The raw emotion runs riot through the whole piece. The production and playing is also top notch. Thank you for the translation. The climax and shear chaos of the final section is brilliant. An extraordinary piece of music, I am in awe!
Wow, that's quite the Rhapsody! I wasn't expecting that. I feel like I'm missing out by not fully understanding the lyrics as they're clearly the centre of the whole piece.
I love the piano part then the crazy jazzy (!) orchestral crescendo. Really well orchestrated. How you got from an almost Arctic Monkeys beginning to that finalé is amazing!
Great Stuff!
As I have commented before, the ambition of this piece is breathtaking, a mini-opera in 3 movements. There is so much to take in, the production lives up to the ambition.
The vocal is truly excellent, and really conveys the story. The arrangement is incredible, with so many parts. Great guitars, orchestration, and drums. And the lyrics are great too. And the building crescendo at the end is a masterstroke!
Great straightforward track, the contrast between lyrics and music is well thought. Love your guitar tones, you know your pedalboard very well!
Great collaborative work. Half melancholic half dreamt atmosphere. I Like all the sound and textures choices. I was hoping at some point that the track would go somewhere a bit brighter before coming back to the initial musical idea, but it works perfectly fine in its current form. Great job guys!
Great and sincere songwriting. Your voice infections always remind me a bit of Roger Waters but your timbre is far more pleasant to hear than Waters'. You're doing great on the piano for only 6 months. Keep up the good work.
Some of the drum fills felt a bit unnecessary to my ears, especially on the main "verses", bus it is very personal taste. And I agree with Richard that the vocals are at times eclipsed by the piano which is sad, because IMO, what shine the most on your songs are your lyrics. Make them loud and clear !
Beautiful and peaceful river, I wish I could spend time there one day in the real life, but for now, your music transports me there, and i can almost hear the gentle sound of the water flowing. Thank you for sharing.
Great track, John. Not sure I want to visit those Fjords though, pretty scary. Could have been part of the Midsommar soundtrack, have you seen it?
Great track! We all need a dose of MichaelCaine to survive on the dancefloors!
As usual with you, fireworks of intricate sounds for our ears. I always love how seamless the soundscape evolves in your tracks. Beautiful work. I especially like the drop around 2:30. Pristine production as usual! Thanks for sharing!
Great work. You used the vocals synth engine in a more human way compared to the previous tracks you shared. Great job
Thank you. I didn’t realise the track was quite that scary. It’s cool that it can evoke any emotion, even if that emotion is ‘aaarrrggghhh!’ ;-)
Or sends cold shivers down your spine. That would be ultra cool! Figuratively.
I haven’t seen Midsommar, no. I’ll add it to the list.
@JanKun thank you for the encouragement. I’m concentrating on the piano at the expense of the mix it would seem - that’s my focus at the moment for sure. Your comments are much appreciated 😀
Thank you. I think that the insertion of breathing moment gave this human touch
Scary was not exactly the right word. There is an underlying tension that's here during the whole track. Usually, when hearing this, my crazy brain starts imagining all kind of things. For your track there's a monstrously tall Norwegian guy hiding in the woods next to the fjord, holding a giant Nordic axe... I cannot see if the axe is covered in human blood though, so I don't know yet if I should bee scared to death or not 😉...
The Ari Aster's movies I saw (Hereditary and Midsommar) didn't work on me for whatever reason. There are plenty of disturbing things there but I was never scared, only slightly intrigued.
Do those kind of synth engines have some kind of optional humanize function that does it for you?
I have only scratched the surface of what is possible with Synthesizer V. Most of what you can hear in this track has been automatically generated. I have "just" inserted the notes and the lyrics and made some adjustments, like inserting "breath" where it fit well, splitting words, etc. You can push this software very deep if you put some extra time on it (https://manual.synthv.info/phonemes/)
I think it can even sing in French but you have to work at the phonemes level. I will try one day if I can find the time to do it
We were certainly aiming for ‘creepy’ and think we succeeded :-)
It’s a massive compliment that our tune was able to evoke any kinds of emotion and imagination, thanks again for listening and for your thoughtful feedback.
Nice so far! I particularly like the combination of the growling bass and the keys on top.
I have nothing bad to say about the mix. Everything seems clean and balanced. I think I would like to hear something else that thickens the stew, though. I don't know if that's saturation or what. It's probably a personal preference!
Whoa!
That was a nice transition from the acapella chant to the instruments coming in. I was genuinelly taken by surprise.
I'm not a rapper and I almost want to start rapping over this beat.
The brass providing the melody is beautiful as are the keys.
I'm curious, if you don't mind revealing how you went about it, did you take the zulu chant as a base and build around it, or was it the other way around?
I echo the earlier comments on the evolving drums. The flute tone is reminiscent of the flutes I've heard in some of the music from the Andes. I like the airy and spacey feel of the track.
Nice instrumentals and nice vocal lines!
I just started using the basic version of Synthesizer V and have decided to take the plunge and invest in Pro. Just need to decide on the voices I want.
If you don't mind me asking, which voicebank did you choose for this track? Did you have to do any manual tuning?
I'm going to look for an existing voice synth thread if there is one. I would love to hear more from the members here about how they're using these various synths.
Nice voice. Love the way the instrumentals and it are mixed. I like that it's uplifting too.
Thank you so much for listening! I am still messing around with the synth voice, but I do want a real singer to try it. Maybe this is a good enough demo to entice someone.
Thank you for listening and for the feedback!
I feel like with enough skill some of these synth voices can be made very very human. Still, sometimes I wonder if it's just the fact of me not having a trained ear that makes me miss something that you guys can hear.
Not to derail the thread, but I'd be curious to know your impressions of this synth voice cover of Adele:
I like this track very much, I mean the music. I don’t really like the synthetic vocal and I think you can really improve it using a good voice. As you asked me, I am mainly using Solaria and sometime Asterian. They are both really easy to use, no need to “tune” them