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Patterning 3 by Olympia Noise Co (Released)

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  • onlydealsonlydeals

    @Spud said:

    @onlydeals said:
    Can anyone confirm that Patterning 3 comes with a free license for Ableton Live Lite 12? The app store description is a little vague, it reads:

    direct export to an Ableton Live Set (including a access to Ableton Live Lite)

    Thanks in advance!

    I haven't filled it out, but if you go into the Export menu there is a form to enter your email address to receive a license number for it, yes.

    Thanks Spud!

  • zilld2017zilld2017
    edited June 6

    I’m having trouble with recording via midi in. I’ve midi mapped my Arturia keyboard and playing the keys will trigger the pads and play the samples. However, when I record, the samples trigger but the pads do not respond and only a few—very few if any—actually are recorded to the pattern editor. Can anyone replicate this? Thanks.

    EDIT: using the drum pads directly records to the pattern editor, as expected.

    @benkamen?

  • benkamenbenkamen

    @zilld2017 said:
    I’m having trouble with recording via midi in. I’ve midi mapped my Arturia keyboard and playing the keys will trigger the pads and play the samples. However, when I record, the samples trigger but the pads do not respond and only a few—very few if any—actually are recorded to the pattern editor. Can anyone replicate this? Thanks.

    EDIT: using the drum pads directly records to the pattern editor, as expected.

    @benkamen?

    Yes, as noted a couple posts ago in this thread, I’ve been working on this one for a couple days now. It’s super odd, because I can’t recreate the problem, but it appears to happen for other folks consistently. In any event, I’m on it and will get it sorted out. That’s the final thing I want to get fixed before the 3.0.4 update.

  • zilld2017zilld2017

    @benkamen said:

    @zilld2017 said:
    I’m having trouble with recording via midi in. I’ve midi mapped my Arturia keyboard and playing the keys will trigger the pads and play the samples. However, when I record, the samples trigger but the pads do not respond and only a few—very few if any—actually are recorded to the pattern editor. Can anyone replicate this? Thanks.

    EDIT: using the drum pads directly records to the pattern editor, as expected.

    @benkamen?

    Yes, as noted a couple posts ago in this thread, I’ve been working on this one for a couple days now. It’s super odd, because I can’t recreate the problem, but it appears to happen for other folks consistently. In any event, I’m on it and will get it sorted out. That’s the final thing I want to get fixed before the 3.0.4 update.

    Sorry, missed that. Good news. Thanks!

  • Antos3345Antos3345
    edited June 6

    I just bought it and it's great! I just can't figure out where the fix page has gone...? Also the solo track on the main circle / sequence page.

  • benkamenbenkamen

    @Antos3345 said:
    I just bought it and it's great! I just can't figure out where the fix page has gone...? Also the solo track on the main circle / sequence page.

    The FX now has its own track - the last one. Then the FX are on the right.

    Press ALT to get the solo mute to show up. If you drag off ALT before letting go, it will latch.

  • Antos3345Antos3345
    edited June 6

    @benkamen said:

    @Antos3345 said:
    I just bought it and it's great! I just can't figure out where the fix page has gone...? Also the solo track on the main circle / sequence page.

    The FX now has its own track - the last one. Then the FX are on the right.

    Press ALT to get the solo mute to show up. If you drag off ALT before letting go, it will latch.

    Ok, I'll try that out and look for the fx track .

  • Antos3345Antos3345

    I’m sure it’s been asked already but I couldn’t find this. How can I open drum kits and patterns that I have made in P2 in the new P3?

  • wimwim

    @Antos3345 said:
    I’m sure it’s been asked already but I couldn’t find this. How can I open drum kits and patterns that I have made in P2 in the new P3?

    https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/60934/migrate-patterning-2-saved-patterns-to-patterning-3

  • Antos3345Antos3345
    edited June 7

    Thanks :) One more quick? Are Are there any multiple outputs in PM3 in AUM?

  • Antos3345Antos3345

    Does anyone know if there are any multiple outputs in PM3 in AUM? I want to have different EQ on different drum parts.

  • FordTimeLordFordTimeLord

    @Antos3345 said:
    Does anyone know if there are any multiple outputs in PM3 in AUM? I want to have different EQ on different drum parts.

    Yes, there are up to 10 outputs. One for each track plus reverb and delay

  • benkamenbenkamen

    @Antos3345 said:
    Does anyone know if there are any multiple outputs in PM3 in AUM? I want to have different EQ on different drum parts.

  • Antos3345Antos3345
    edited June 8

    Ah nice:) I assume after that , I then choose a multi out version on anothrt audio track.

    Thx :)

  • benkamenbenkamen

    @Antos3345 said:
    Ah nice:) I assume after that , I then choose a multi out version on anothrt audio track.

    Thx :)

    Yes!

  • wimwim

    @benkamen said:

    That is the best implementation of multiple outputs I've ever seen in an app! 😎
    Most (including from one of my favorite and most legendary developers) are really a pain.

  • Antos3345Antos3345
    edited June 8

    I found it in the menu via the manual..Thanks:)

  • benkamenbenkamen

    @Antos3345 said:
    I can't find where to access this menu? I am on the mix page.

    Main menu drop down (three lines on the top left). It’s called AU Multiout or something like that.

  • SecretBaseDesignSecretBaseDesign

    Digging the app -- but it feels to me like the timing is slightly off, with the drums just slightly behind the beat.

    I'm using AUM as a host, with Patterning as an AUv3 plug in. If I turn on the metronome, and have a kick on every quarter note, when I record the audio and look at it with a wave editor, the "beep" of the metronome is about 0.03 seconds ahead of where the kick starts. I've tried a few different sample kits, and this seems to be uniform. I've tried with and without Ableton; both ways seem slightly off.

    Anyone else see this happening? Any fixes?

  • wimwim

    @SecretBaseDesign said:
    Digging the app -- but it feels to me like the timing is slightly off, with the drums just slightly behind the beat.

    I'm using AUM as a host, with Patterning as an AUv3 plug in. If I turn on the metronome, and have a kick on every quarter note, when I record the audio and look at it with a wave editor, the "beep" of the metronome is about 0.03 seconds ahead of where the kick starts. I've tried a few different sample kits, and this seems to be uniform. I've tried with and without Ableton; both ways seem slightly off.

    Anyone else see this happening? Any fixes?

    Does it change if you try different buffer sizes?

  • benkamenbenkamen
    edited June 10

    @SecretBaseDesign said:
    Digging the app -- but it feels to me like the timing is slightly off, with the drums just slightly behind the beat.

    I'm using AUM as a host, with Patterning as an AUv3 plug in. If I turn on the metronome, and have a kick on every quarter note, when I record the audio and look at it with a wave editor, the "beep" of the metronome is about 0.03 seconds ahead of where the kick starts. I've tried a few different sample kits, and this seems to be uniform. I've tried with and without Ableton; both ways seem slightly off.

    Anyone else see this happening? Any fixes?

    That’s odd!

    Any chance you recorded that kick drum in? Because if you did, you would have also recorded a “nudge” amount off the grid. If thats the case you have two choices to fix it - turn up the quantization, or use the nudge layer and remove the offset.

    It sounds like you’ve tried multiple kits - so it’s not the in sample itself.

    If that’s not it - then that’s a pretty serious bug and I will move heaven and earth to fix it ASAP. So, let me know!! Probably via email so I can better collect info without annoying everyone here…. Are you using the Patterning metronome or the host app metronome?

    The buffer size won’t make a difference - it’s calculating timing at the sample level.

  • espiegel123espiegel123
    edited June 10

    @benkamen said:

    @SecretBaseDesign said:
    Digging the app -- but it feels to me like the timing is slightly off, with the drums just slightly behind the beat.

    I'm using AUM as a host, with Patterning as an AUv3 plug in. If I turn on the metronome, and have a kick on every quarter note, when I record the audio and look at it with a wave editor, the "beep" of the metronome is about 0.03 seconds ahead of where the kick starts. I've tried a few different sample kits, and this seems to be uniform. I've tried with and without Ableton; both ways seem slightly off.

    Anyone else see this happening? Any fixes?

    That’s odd!

    Any chance you recorded that kick drum in? Because if you did, you would have also recorded a “nudge” amount off the grid. If thats the case you have two choices to fix it - turn up the quantization, or use the nudge layer and remove the offset.

    It sounds like you’ve tried multiple kits - so it’s not the in sample itself.

    If that’s not it - then that’s a pretty serious bug and I will move heaven and earth to fix it ASAP. So, let me know!! Probably via email so I can better collect info without annoying everyone here…. Are you using the Patterning metronome or the host app metronome?

    The buffer size won’t make a difference - it’s calculating timing at the sample level.

    I just rendered two bars of quarter note kicks to a loop in loopy pro and exported to auditor, the firs sample of every kick was within .7 ms of the calculated location. And since I don't know how tightly trimmed the kick sample was, that .7 ms (.0007 seconds ) could be silence in the sample itself.

  • espiegel123espiegel123

    AUM has latency correction and loopy pro doesn't. I wonder if that might be a factor.

  • wimwim

    I'm pretty sure it's completely unrelated since we're talking internal sounds, but the issue made me think of this one: https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/46251/let-s-talk-about-midi-sequencer-timing

  • SecretBaseDesignSecretBaseDesign

    Looks like the weirdness was user error (in other words, PEBCAI, the problem exists between chair and iPad. My brain fail!). Swing was set to 50 (not sure how), which shifts some of the notes considerably. Setting the swing to zero locks everything down.

  • YoniYoni

    @benkamen said:

    @Edward_Alexander said:
    Already managed to crash a mult-out session in AUM. Was messing with the “timeline” section, tapped on the first square on the timeline and BAM!

    Thanks ! Yes I was just alerted to this yesterday and have a fix for it… hopefully next week it will be published.

    I still have this problem…anyone else?
    (Ipad pro m2)

  • tput73tput73

    Having the weirdest issue with P3 in Loopy Pro.
    When recording first loop with preset length of anything greater than 4 bars, upon playback Patterning stops and begins 4 bars later. The only midi mapped to Pattetning is a CC from a Loopy widget to trigger fill. Any thoughts?

  • espiegel123espiegel123

    @tput73 said:
    Having the weirdest issue with P3 in Loopy Pro.
    When recording first loop with preset length of anything greater than 4 bars, upon playback Patterning stops and begins 4 bars later. The only midi mapped to Pattetning is a CC from a Loopy widget to trigger fill. Any thoughts?

    Can you screen record a demonstration and post a link?

  • tput73tput73

    @espiegel123
    https://share.icloud.com/photos/0bdOBE9_UE0pRCmLbgA8pC0sg
    Hopefully this works. I’ll check back
    Thanks

  • espiegel123espiegel123

    @tput73 said:
    @espiegel123
    https://share.icloud.com/photos/0bdOBE9_UE0pRCmLbgA8pC0sg
    Hopefully this works. I’ll check back
    Thanks

    I am not getting that behavior.

    I can you try the following steps:

    • create a new project using Loopy’s default project
    • Add patterning 3 and create a one bar pattern
    • Set loopy pro’s tempo
    • Set the length of Loopy’s clip 1 to 8 measures
    • Tap on loop 1 to start recording

    When I try this patterning plays uninterrupted

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