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Harmony Bloom - New Midi Magic Generator (Standalone and AUv3)

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  • With that all cleared up, I also hope that comes to the iPad 🙂

  • @KirbyMumbo said:
    anyone know how to start/stop in spectator mode on ios? is there a keyboard command or something?

    oh, also is there a way to send one of the dots to a different channel?

  • @KirbyMumbo said:

    @KirbyMumbo said:
    anyone know how to start/stop in spectator mode on ios? is there a keyboard command or something?

    oh, also is there a way to send one of the dots to a different channel?

    I don’t see any options in the AU parameters for the spectator mode. Not sure about a keyboard shortcut.

    To answer your second question though, you can send trigger bars to different midi channels. Unfortunately not for individual notes (dots) as far as I’m aware. (I would rather like that also!)

  • Hey, I've been eyeing the app by Seqsual called Circle. He took it out of the appstore for awhile, but now it's back. It's also $20 and I'm having a hard time pulling the trigger on a niche midi controller app like this.

    That said, I really like the same dev's Astral and RSVP apps.

    I'm curious if I could essentially get the same performance out of Harmony Bloom. I don't think so, but I'm not completely sure what Circle is doing.

    Does anyone have both? If so, do they more or less produce very similar results?

  • @skiphunt said:
    Hey, I've been eyeing the app by Seqsual called Circle. He took it out of the appstore for awhile, but now it's back. It's also $20 and I'm having a hard time pulling the trigger on a niche midi controller app like this.

    That said, I really like the same dev's Astral and RSVP apps.

    I'm curious if I could essentially get the same performance out of Harmony Bloom. I don't think so, but I'm not completely sure what Circle is doing.

    Does anyone have both? If so, do they more or less produce very similar results?

    I think with the probability setting at say, 10% , the note number settings on 3 or 4, and the bpm nice and low (30 maybe), that Harmony Bloom could create something similar to this.
    That said, I too have no idea what Circle does.

  • @Kashi said:

    @skiphunt said:
    Hey, I've been eyeing the app by Seqsual called Circle. He took it out of the appstore for awhile, but now it's back. It's also $20 and I'm having a hard time pulling the trigger on a niche midi controller app like this.

    That said, I really like the same dev's Astral and RSVP apps.

    I'm curious if I could essentially get the same performance out of Harmony Bloom. I don't think so, but I'm not completely sure what Circle is doing.

    Does anyone have both? If so, do they more or less produce very similar results?

    I think with the probability setting at say, 10% , the note number settings on 3 or 4, and the bpm nice and low (30 maybe), that Harmony Bloom could create something similar to this.
    That said, I too have no idea what Circle does.

    Yeah, I can’t either. I think Circle may be doing things that are more user controlled during play and less random probability. I can’t tell from the scant demos though.

    I played with Harmony and did get similar results, but I think there are a couple layers of control in Circle that make it notably unique.

  • @skiphunt said:

    @Kashi said:

    @skiphunt said:
    Hey, I've been eyeing the app by Seqsual called Circle. He took it out of the appstore for awhile, but now it's back. It's also $20 and I'm having a hard time pulling the trigger on a niche midi controller app like this.

    That said, I really like the same dev's Astral and RSVP apps.

    I'm curious if I could essentially get the same performance out of Harmony Bloom. I don't think so, but I'm not completely sure what Circle is doing.

    Does anyone have both? If so, do they more or less produce very similar results?

    I think with the probability setting at say, 10% , the note number settings on 3 or 4, and the bpm nice and low (30 maybe), that Harmony Bloom could create something similar to this.
    That said, I too have no idea what Circle does.

    Yeah, I can’t either. I think Circle may be doing things that are more user controlled during play and less random probability. I can’t tell from the scant demos though.

    I played with Harmony and did get similar results, but I think there are a couple layers of control in Circle that make it notably unique.

    I have Circle now and love it! It’s not really like Harmony Bloom. Circle is sort of a playable hybrid between the Nodebeats app with control over the player/playheads in terms of note length, range, rate, etc. you can have 2 layers of placed notes rotating within the space at the speed and direction you choose. It’s got vague similarities to Harmony but Circle is definitely a different beast. It also has a degree of probability builtin as well.

    Circle is my 3rd app from this developer that I’ve found to be uniquely genius

  • edited January 27

    Looks like there’s a new preset pack for HB , called "whispers of Stories" - just saw on Mario's IG...but I can’t figure out how to get/buy it

  • You can get it here: https://marionietoworld.com/index.php/expansions/
    Be warned, it looks like you have to enter name, adress, and E-mail to get it...

  • Thanks @lasselu
    I wouldn't mind submitting my email address since I've already been in touch with Mario for tech help, using my email address...but it also wants my "account name".....so fuck that

  • Also note that the presets would have to be imported one to one into iOS as there is no batch import in the app. Really tired of devs not implementing that! Mario said he will try to add it tho

  • Yeah good point Gav @Gavinski . Oh well, there's plenty of good presets in HB already, to use as springboards to create my own.

  • edited January 27

    @skiphunt said:
    Hey, I've been eyeing the app by Seqsual called Circle. He took it out of the appstore for awhile, but now it's back. It's also $20 and I'm having a hard time pulling the trigger on a niche midi controller app like this.

    That said, I really like the same dev's Astral and RSVP apps.

    I'm curious if I could essentially get the same performance out of Harmony Bloom. I don't think so, but I'm not completely sure what Circle is doing.

    Does anyone have both? If so, do they more or less produce very similar results?

    One thing that might be a dealbreaker for you is that none of the SQSL apps are AUv3 plugins. They’re all standalone apps. The only one I own is Lottery, which doesn’t even support MIDI sync, so it’s pretty much impossible to use with anything else.

    The developer has really interesting ideas and the one app of theirs that I own is a huge amount of fun. But depending on your setup, it may be literally useless.

  • @negativeone said:

    @skiphunt said:
    Hey, I've been eyeing the app by Seqsual called Circle. He took it out of the appstore for awhile, but now it's back. It's also $20 and I'm having a hard time pulling the trigger on a niche midi controller app like this.

    That said, I really like the same dev's Astral and RSVP apps.

    I'm curious if I could essentially get the same performance out of Harmony Bloom. I don't think so, but I'm not completely sure what Circle is doing.

    Does anyone have both? If so, do they more or less produce very similar results?

    One thing that might be a dealbreaker for you is that none of the SQSL apps are AUv3 plugins. They’re all standalone apps. The only one I own is Lottery, which doesn’t even support MIDI sync, so it’s pretty much impossible to use with anything else.

    The developer has really interesting ideas and the one app of theirs that I own is a huge amount of fun. But depending on your setup, it may be literally useless.

    I actually have Circle now and love it!

    I don’t personally care that it’s not AUv3. Nor, don’t think it’s even necessary with Circle. Same for all this devs apps that I have. I don’t have Lottery yet though.

  • Hey @negativeone and @skiphunt - I know that Miso's apps appeared upthread, but it may be better to put these in a new thread? Or at least one pertaining to Miso's apps, rather than this Harmony Bloom one.
    Just so that other folks interested in SQSL apps don't miss out on opinions/input...
    Just a thought :)

  • @Kashi said:
    Hey @negativeone and @skiphunt - I know that Miso's apps appeared upthread, but it may be better to put these in a new thread? Or at least one pertaining to Miso's apps, rather than this Harmony Bloom one.
    Just so that other folks interested in SQSL apps don't miss out on opinions/input...
    Just a thought :)

    I already put that information and opinion, etc. in the sqsl thread. I was just replying to your reply on the matter of AUv3, etc.

  • _ki_ki
    edited January 27

    @Gavinski said:
    Also note that the presets would have to be imported one to one into iOS as there is no batch import in the app.

    No, that‘s not correct, i managed to batch import them using the files app:

    • Unzip the download, this creates a folder named Whispers of Stories - Harmony Bloom Presets Pack
    • Rename that folder to Whispers of Stories
    • Copy the folder into on my ipad / HarmonyBloom / Mario Nieto / Harmony Bloom / Presets beside the existing folders Expansions and Factory

    I stopped HarmonyBloom standalone before the import steps and started if afterwards - one can validate the import happened if After Life is found in the preset list.

  • @_ki said:

    @Gavinski said:
    Also note that the presets would have to be imported one to one into iOS as there is no batch import in the app.

    No, that‘s not correct, i managed to batch import them using the files app:

    • Unzip the download, this creates a folder named Whispers of Stories - Harmony Bloom Presets Pack
    • Rename that folder to Whispers of Stories
    • Copy the folder into on my ipad / HarmonyBloom / Mario Nieto / Harmony Bloom / Presets beside the existing folders Expansions and Factory

    I stopped HarmonyBloom standalone before the import steps and started if afterwards - one can validate the import happened if After Life is found in the preset list.

    Oh great - funny, even the dev did not suggest this simple solution. Forgot the folder is there in files. Thnx Ki!

  • @Gavinski said:

    @_ki said:

    @Gavinski said:
    Also note that the presets would have to be imported one to one into iOS as there is no batch import in the app.

    No, that‘s not correct, i managed to batch import them using the files app:

    • Unzip the download, this creates a folder named Whispers of Stories - Harmony Bloom Presets Pack
    • Rename that folder to Whispers of Stories
    • Copy the folder into on my ipad / HarmonyBloom / Mario Nieto / Harmony Bloom / Presets beside the existing folders Expansions and Factory

    I stopped HarmonyBloom standalone before the import steps and started if afterwards - one can validate the import happened if After Life is found in the preset list.

    Oh great - funny, even the dev did not suggest this simple solution. Forgot the folder is there in files. Thnx Ki!

    Actually tho - now they are only appearing in standalone but not in the AUv3. Thoughts?

  • @Gavinski Oh no, i didn‘t check that :/
    I can confirm, that they don‘t show up in the AUv3 - that‘s really disappointing.

    .

    Did anyone check if the are visible using the one-by-one import function of the preset browser in the standalone ?

    BTW: I one-by-one imported ‚Astral Life‘ into the AUv3 and it showed up with an escaped name ‚Astral%20Life‘, but only in the AUV3 - so maybe there are two preset folders, the AUv3-one only beeing accessible by the AUv3 and independent from the standalone-one, which is found ‚on my ipad‘.
    If i remember correctly syncing presets between standalone and auv3 had been a problem with other plugins :/

  • @_ki said:
    @Gavinski Oh no, i didn‘t check that :/
    I can confirm, that they don‘t show up in the AUv3 - that‘s really disappointing.

    .

    Did anyone check if the are visible using the one-by-one import function of the preset browser in the standalone ?

    BTW: I one-by-one imported ‚Astral Life‘ into the AUv3 and it showed up with an escaped name ‚Astral%20Life‘, but only in the AUV3 - so maybe there are two preset folders, the AUv3-one only beeing accessible by the AUv3 and independent from the standalone-one, which is found ‚on my ipad‘.
    If i remember correctly syncing presets between standalone and auv3 had been a problem with other plugins :/

    There are ways to do it - fm zone manages it. I forget the details but they're in the fm zone manual. Maybe I'll point Mario on that direction

  • Nice Harmony Bloom update, makes getting expansions easier. . @MarioNieto

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