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I'm liking it more and more. Automating parameters helps. It's interesting how even though there are many ARPs and such on iOS, each has it's own flavor.
Hi @ka010 !
I noticed that the midi plugins in Logic Pro do not synchronize with the tempo of the project unless the sample rate of the project is 44.1 kHz.
So far, it looks to me like a Logic Pro bug, but if I find at least 1 plugin that does not have this issue, then we can conclude that this can somehow be fixed on the midi plugin side.🤓
Have you tested your Harmonicer in Logic Pro for iPad?
I can confirm this is a Logic bug. It's been around since Logic came to iOS and unfortunately wasn't fixed in 2.0 either. Essentially, it's impossible for a MIDI plugin to get the hosts sample rate so it'll continue to run at it's default.
A workaround as mentioned in the manual is to make sure the project sample rate is the same as Harmonicer's sample rate.
You mentioned there's one plugin that appears to fix this somehow, which is it?
Thanks for the confirmation!
I meant that I'm trying to find at least 1 plugin that works correctly in Logic Pro. But since you have confirmed that this is a Logic Pro bug, I can only wait for the fix.
Bought for specific reasons. Too bad that you can't go outside of the key for some juicy alternate borrowed chords. But I guess with some fiddling you could get those too. @ka010 is there a way to sequence Key and Mode changes (feature request -- or parameter exposure)?
PS I like it
I really like this! It makes it easy to set up some lovely complex sounds.
You get one main sound playing at the root note, then you can set up to 4 others playing at various intervals and potentially arpeggiated. I have had a couple of issues though...the arp on the main sound got stuck once and I lost all audio once.
I realise that one of the functions is "quantizer", but does this app do stuff that goes "off-grid"? Or is everything locked to the clock, as it were? I'm interested in flurries of notes, rapid-fire clusters....just wondering if anyone who has it can describe what they're using for/how they're using it?
You mean an unsynced note division, like what the recent Bleass arp does. No, this doesn't have that option, not that I noticed. Things will be locked to a certain speed like dotted eighths or whatever.
Thanks Gav. Yes, I actually had the Bleass arp app in mind when I asked that question.
Gonna wait for some vids to get a feel for what this does before purchasing....
Basically it can:
Quantize input notes to scales, including custom scales
Add up to 4 voices on top of the notes you enter. These are intervals like +3, +5, -7, octave etc
You can arpeggiate some or all of these notes, both the input ones and the added ones
You can record single notes into the app, not chords, these can then play back without input
You can use the app’s internal keyboard to transpose, to do custom scales, and you can just play it
You can mute the root note or any of the intervals
The app will play arped notes at one quantized rate - eg 1/8th notes - and there is no milliseconds option.
There are a few arp modes to choose from, as well as gate, octave range, number of repeats, and a variation value which will cause variations in the note output, and includes some ratcheting
There are no options for humanizing velocities or timings. The added voices will be played at the same velocity as your input notes.
I do have a vid on my Patreon btw, but basically you can see what it does from the screenshot on the App Store, it’s all pretty clear, and I don’t think there is anything important which I have not listed above. Compare the feature set with things like the Bleass arp or Chordjam etc to see whether you think this will offer new features or a preferred workflow. Cheers!
I spoke too soon -
before I had a chance to try automating the exposed parameters in AUM. I wanted to set up CCs to change the Voices intervals parameters but it doesn't work. The only thing it does now is to turn off any of the intervals that have been set.
Also the Root and Scale parameters are not displaying correctly if I change them via CCs.
I didn't go through every parameter but I'm guessing they may all need some work.
I'm glad to see that @ka010 is updating things now so I'm guessing these things will be corrected.
Looking forward to some videos of it in action.u
How come nobody has done a video on this app?
The developer did say that one was in the pipeline. I presume no one else (apart from Gav behind their paywall on patreon) has produced one yet is because the app has had a number of issues on release. Hopefully, now there’s been some updates, someone will do one. I bought the app on release but must admit, on reflection I wish that I had waited!
OK, thanks!
Funnily enough just encountered another issue. Harmonicer receiving midi from Ochtacron and outputting to XinematiX in AUM. Whilst changing arp settings XinematiX crashes and I have to reload it. Not sure if the problem lies with Harmonicer or XinematiX but it’s frustrating! Tried app support on Harmonicer Numerical Audio website but clicking on contact doesn't do anything??
I’ve just encountered another issue. Harmonicer receiving midi from Ochtacron and outputting to XinematiX in AUM. Whilst changing arp settings XinematiX crashes and I have to reload it. Not sure if the problem lies with Harmonicer or XinematiX but it’s frustrating! Tried app support on Harmonicer Numerical Audio website but clicking on contact doesn't do anything??
For some reason the arp isn’t working at all now. I’ve reloaded Harmonicer but still nothing!! It’s ok if you take arp off but nothing when you apply it.
Ah didn't read that properly. Yeah, I was surprised it wasn't fixed in 2.0, multiple devs have reported it so they are aware of it.
There's a lot I'd like to add like key changes etc.. but I'd like to keep it simple too. We'll see what makes sense...
All the parameters are exposed tho so at least you can have a play with those. >
@Kashi said:
I guess you could get something like that with the arp ratchets which are added more or less at random using the variation control but generally it's all synced to clock divisions.
Made a little tutorial
Great video
I like the look and sound now that I have a video
Now top of my purchase list
~~Just looked into this. It seems AUM is having issues mapping the range for the intervals since the parameter goes from -8 to +8.
Everything else should be working fine. That said, changing any parameter via CC does currently not update the UI. I'll be looking into this now.~~
Scratch that, I made a mistake. Fixed in 1.0.3.
Thank you so much
Was looking at the Numerical Audio channel for it but didn't find it
@ka010 have you thought about maybe adding an option for rate in milliseconds? That would really open up the possibilities for experimental uses of Harmonicer.
Yep, I concur.
Aha. So it’s pronounced “harmo-NICER”, not “har-MONIKER”.
I could probably add that but I'm having a hard time seeing how this would be useful at all. What would you use it for?
Will a midi keyboard play those scales/chords/ arps selected in Harmonicer?
Oh, super nice to do organic speeding up and slowing down of arpeggiation, like this:
