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Hmm, so weird, just downloaded it yesterday but yes, turns out it wasn't the latest version as that came out a week ago. Thnx. That's bizarre. Crash mentioned above is not happening now in this latest version. Keyboard issue I mentioned, with pitch bends being slightly off, is still an issue.
Following my previous post, I’m getting a reproducible crash when applying fairly extreme modulation to grain pitch with pitch quantisation turned on. Have posted on he Audio Damage Discord.
Devs have responded re: the pitch quantisation crash and are looking into a fix.
Perfect, well done
Hi
I’ve encountered an unexpected pitch related behaviour.
The oscillators have different pitch when played back normally (i.e. through the VA OSC 1/2 sections with LEVEL turned up) vs. when they are fed into the GRANULAR OSC via INPUT level.
It sounds as if the pitch of the oscillator fed through INPUT LEVEL is being scaled by a factor of 2 relative to C3 compared with the OSC VA pitch i.e. that KEY modulation is being applied twice.
Both OSCs behave the same way, and both have their KEY modulation applied and turned up to max.
The only way to get the OSC pitch through INPUT LEVEL to behave as expected is to remove KEY modulation from OSC pitch, but then OSC plays at a fixed pitch when sounding through the VA OSC section.
Please see video below for a demo: (reported to AD Discord)
@craftycurate That‘s the intended and correct behavior, even though it might seem a bug at first ;-)
Imagine loading a sample with the fixed tune of C3. If you play a C3 note the granulizer can play it without pitch transformation - but if playing a C4 the grains need to be transposed up by an octave. This is arcioeved by +100% modulation of the grain tuning with the key input.
Its the same if you listen directly to the oscillator. If it‘s tuned to C3, and you want to hear a C4 when playing a C4, you need to transpose it by adding a +100% modulation using key input.
But if you send the oscillator through the granulator, only one of them needs to be modulated (either the osc or the granulator) by key - otherwise the transposition happens twice like you showcased in your video.
That’s it yep … I realised after posting that KEY mod is being applied twice to OSC when being fed into the GRAIN OSC … it means that to keep things in tune we have to choose between the VA OSC on its own, and the VA OSC fed into the GRANULAR OSC, but cant do both, which is a shame, but not a showstopper.
So I guess we could file this as a “design consequence” rather than a bug?
I guess one VA OSC with full KEY mod can be used on its own, and the second can be fed with no KEY mod into the GRANULAR OSC … that will keep everything in tune 👍
The lack of pan & scroll / tabs in the Qunta 2 UI is slowly driving me mad...
...it was cheapish but I can't see myself using it for much longer...
Yes, that‘s possible and one of the things i tried around when investigation in your video
It's perhaps a bit of a shame that modulation amounts can't be diallied in numerically (AFAIK) otherwise some weird pitch ratios could be worked out and dialled in to take advantage of this "feature".
Also, when pitches are quantised, it can disguise some of the strange pitch combinations that result from the double KEY modulation, and then there's the possibility for alternative tunings, so maybe there are some unusual possibilities here!
@craftycurate yea, i tried around with a combination of ~80 % key modulation to the osc and -20% key modulation for the granulator. The sample was a non-tonal @-rythmic clicky sound scape which i didn‘t want to sound like beeing tuned up/down with the notes played but still varying.
To tune such a setup, i set the osc to C3, applied the -80% key modulation and turned down its audible volume. The other osc received 100% key modulation and its volume is set to be audible.
In the granulator, i turned down the sample‘s volume (to not interfere with tuning) and turned up the 80% osc volume.
Playing a c3, everything is in tune as key modulation is 0 for both the osc and the granulator. Then open up the modulation for the granulator and play a C4. This will first sound out of tune. Slowly adjust the percentage of key modulation of the granulator to bring both osc in tune again.
I got the feeling, that looking visually at the resulting key mod slider position, these didin‘t add up to 100%, so maybe a numerical display and numerical position input wouldn‘t have helped to get them in tune
Sounds very interesting … will have a play 😬