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  • @Uprightmusic said:
    @espiegel123 the NAM profile is in the Amp block and replaces the Pocket Master amps but uses the same parameters found in the Pocket Master on board amps. The UI does not change to any parameters that might be associated with NAM profiles specifically. This makes me believe Sonicake is doing something to make using the NAM profiles easily integrate with their current amp UI at the expense of things being a bit skewed when loading in a NAM profile

    i see that there is an input level adjustment for the interface. i'd be curious if you get better results by loading the nam profile an only adjusting the interface's input level

  • @espiegel123 said:

    i see that there is an input level adjustment for the interface. i'd be curious if you get better results by loading the nam profile an only adjusting the interface's input level

    I did try this but ultimately it was the gain adjustment that made the difference for me. Do you have a Pocket Master on order?

  • @Uprightmusic said:

    @espiegel123 said:

    i see that there is an input level adjustment for the interface. i'd be curious if you get better results by loading the nam profile an only adjusting the interface's input level

    I did try this but ultimately it was the gain adjustment that made the difference for me. Do you have a Pocket Master on order?

    No. I don't have one on order. I don't have a need for one. But I do want to understand them as my job sometimes requires me to be familiar with devices like this. But I don't have the budget or time to try them all myself.

  • Does anyone know Sonicake beyond this? Any products you own besides this or recommend ?

  • @espiegel123 said:
    No. I don't have one on order. I don't have a need for one. But I do want to understand them as my job sometimes requires me to be familiar with devices like this. But I don't have the budget or time to try them all myself.

    Gotcha.

    @yellow_eyez said:
    Does anyone know Sonicake beyond this? Any products you own besides this or recommend ?

    This is my first experience with their products. I know they have other gear though.

  • I have a valeton bass dapper (like a fly rig) and I think Valeton and sonicake may be the same company behind the scenes. Sonicake has good versions of the inexpensive pedals, etc.

    In general, I think mooer, joyo, sonicake, m-vave, valeton, donner, fesley, and all of the other names you see on the inexpensive guitar gear on amazon all share intertwined roots. If I remember correctly, joyo and mooer are competing companies because they are run by siblings who had a disagreement and split from each other. Something like that.

  • @mrufino1 said:
    In general, I think mooer, joyo, sonicake, m-vave, valeton, donner, fesley, and all of the other names you see on the inexpensive guitar gear on amazon all share intertwined roots.

    This makes so much sense and I wouldn’t doubt it at all. Bottom line is they are giving big brand names a run for their money. That new Mooer GS1000 is kind of a beast with capture tech and all. At $500 if I’m not mistaken.

  • wimwim
    edited January 25

    @yellow_eyez said:
    No doubt about it at this price point you can’t beat this product - despite not having any firsthand knowledge or experience I would recommend it after seeing more purely conjecture based off of seeing what the Fender can do and what the NuX MPP does.

    If I didn’t want the extreme compactness of the Fender micro amp (or the fender brand name) , I would go for this. If I was a tone junkie I’d be Curious whcih i would go for but I don’t hear in HiFi the way other people do.

    Yeh, after pulling the trigger on the Pocket Master, I thought about how nice the Micro plugging directly into the guitar could be over a loose box and the extra cable. Once I see if this really helps me to pick up the guitar more often, I won't be surprised if I get a hankering for the Micro. Probably it'll take quite some time for me to justify $124 to eliminate a cable though. All it takes is one weak moment though, so I have no doubt it'll happen some day.

    Which is why I typed this all out - to remind myself NOT to find a reason or way to sneak this purchase in with so many bills this month, like it’s bad this month ahahah not gonna lie bro

    fwiw, I think it'd be a dumb move if you already have the Micro and you're stretched financially right now. That false sense of urgency is nothing other than FOMO ya' know.

    In any case, Don’t get me wrong (for my purposes the fender is still my favorite and top pick for this mini pocket amp/micro headphone amp category) but man, this does so much and half the price of the fender !

    You need to find a Meeting somewhere my friend.

    Speaking of which here’s a reminder to join the GUITARISTS GUIDE registry thread , so we can have a running conversation of all things guitar related - such as this, it would’ve been a GREAT addition [actually just before I hit the post button I wanted to ask the OP ? You can lmk if you want ? Or PM a moderator [hehe] if you want it merged ?]

    Go to the bar? Or go to a Meeting? Humm...
    😉

    How many people are going to get this ? How many people already have some form (either fender or nux?)

    It's on the way. I'm 90% sure I'll regret it for a time, then move on. I don't usually look back on dumb purchases for long.

  • @wim 🤣

    yes I think maybe I should actually put the guitar down… 😜

    [and you kinda hit the salient point: seamlessness - I don’t want cables (except headphones and USB C ofc) if possible: fender does that so I’m good 🙂]

  • @yellow_eyez said:
    Does anyone know Sonicake beyond this? Any products you own besides this or recommend ?

    I had their Fazy Cream fuzz pedal for awhile. Decent Big Muff clone and very inexpensive.

  • wimwim
    edited January 26

    The combination volume / WAH pedal would be interesting to me if I was still using that kind of stuff. Very nice to not have to have a whole extra pedal dedicated to the few times I'd use WAH. And that price!

    https://www.sonicake.com/products/volwah

  • I'm tempted by this one too:
    https://www.sonicake.com/products/wireless-audio-system

    ≦ 5ms latency. A little higher than I'd like, but ...

  • Now who’s getting out of hand @wim
    Next meetings at 10pm dude

    😂

  • wimwim
    edited January 26

    @yellow_eyez said:
    Now who’s getting out of hand @wim
    Next meetings at 10pm dude

    😂

    Hey, you asked. 😂

    I've been successfully talking myself out of a wireless system for over a year now. I'm not really tempted by either of those products, but they stood out when I perused their web site. I'm a recovering tone addict (1 day sober), fortunately not a gear junkie. 😉

  • edited January 26

    Oh so you are a tone junkie ! Then this will be very interested to hear your review

    Man imagine being a gear head AND tone junkie - that’d be an expensive habit

    I mean I tallied my spending over the years approximately $10k on 10 guitars + $5k for my studio (including amp, interface, monitors, desk, mic, cab, etc) - so $15k for a life time investment and collectible performance instruments that border on art to pass down but that has been over 20 years of guitar world life so I think that’s somewhat conservative for that being my “addiction” (I use that word loosely sorry to anyone who struggles with it ) - and I have to just say this thread reminded me that there might be some great things out there, but I’m content with what I have and I don’t really want to acquire anything

    I will say my op-1f was a real bday gift that sealed my gear days and acquisitions; I won’t be buying or selling or trading anything (so I guess just make it a round $17k) but it’s worth double and increase every year

    —— all I need now is maintenance[setups etc] and supplies [strings, finger ease, lizard spit, picks, cleaner/wax, etc] ———-

    What I Do NEED is someone to setup my 8 string like really bad man - I can’t handle it, don’t know how to deal with so much tension - but I found someone this week who said he’ll do it

  • @wim said:

    I've been successfully talking myself out of a wireless system for over a year now. I'm not really tempted by either of those products, but they stood out when I perused their web site.

    I’ve gone down the rabbit hole of wireless systems lol. Started with the affordable stuff on Amazon with the dual split charging cables. They work for a while but then they’ll stop receiving power from the cable. Went through 3 of them they all did the same thing. Also the 2.4ghz units are very prone to wifi interference. Frustrated but now hooked on being wireless I got the Shure GLXD14+ and needless to say it’s incredible. Expensive but very reliable.

  • edited January 26

    @wim said:
    I'm tempted by this one too:
    https://www.sonicake.com/products/wireless-audio-system

    ≦ 5ms latency. A little higher than I'd like, but ...

    I ended up with Mooer GTRS GWU4 (<3ms on paper). I have it for 6 months now and no complains. But I'm a bedroom player only.

  • Wireless is genuinely helpful in cramped spaces shared with other people (e.g., the organist and choir).

  • @wim said:
    I'm tempted by this one too:
    https://www.sonicake.com/products/wireless-audio-system

    ≦ 5ms latency. A little higher than I'd like, but ...

    Don’t bother with those types of wireless, 2.4ghz is bad news for wireless audio. The range on those is not great either, and when they don’t have a clear signal there is no signal, not just interference.

    I have that wah/volume in red with the donner name on it, it’s ok. I only use it rarely, so it’s good for that, but the wah just sounds ok. As a volume pedal, the motion is a little loose, so it’s hard to control. But again, for occasional home use it’s ok. You’ll hear and feel a difference with a vox, crybaby, Ernie ball, etc.

  • @Uprightmusic said:

    @yellow_eyez said:

    Speaking of which here’s a reminder to join the GUITARISTS GUIDE registry thread , so we can have a running conversation of all things guitar related - such as this, it would’ve been a GREAT addition [actually just before I hit the post button I wanted to ask the OP ? You can lmk if you want ? Or PM a moderator [hehe] if you want it merged ?]

    Absolutely interested! Anything guitar community related I’d love to be a part of!

    Ok u got it illl merge and make this your first post/entry into the guide then since it’s taking off on its own

  • @yellow_eyez said:

    Ok u got it illl merge and make this your first post/entry into the guide then since it’s taking off on its own

    Wow thanks for pulling me in! Lots to catch up on here.

  • Thanks for the advice on wireless @uprightmusic, @filo01 and @mrufino1. I kind of expected the cheap units to be marginal. I only play at home and also know how to deal with 2.4ghz congestion. But I'm not really that tempted anyway and you helped put what little temptation there was aside. I hate cables, but not enough to bother with stuff that may not work all that well.

  • @wim there are some good wireless systems for decent prices. For practice in my home studio I use the NUX B-5RC it’s solid and about $150. Every once in a while I get wild interference but nothing deal breaking. It’s the 2.4ghz model and they make a 5.8ghz now.

  • @Uprightmusic said:
    @wim there are some good wireless systems for decent prices. For practice in my home studio I use the NUX B-5RC it’s solid and about $150. Every once in a while I get wild interference but nothing deal breaking. It’s the 2.4ghz model and they make a 5.8ghz now.

    I got a wireless system (2.4 ghz so it doesn’t interfere with the numerous 5 Channels) for like $25 or so on sale. It works ; I mean oddly well, barely latency. I can’t imagine what the new quality ones cost.

    What’s your goal though @wim
    To be wirelessly transmitting into your iPad from your amp and guitar?

    If so I’ve been trying to figure out a loop myself / nothing panned out yet

  • wimwim
    edited January 27

    @yellow_eyez said:
    What’s your goal though @wim
    To be wirelessly transmitting into your iPad from your amp and guitar?

    I need to be able to keep playing while I crowd surf.

  • @Uprightmusic said:
    @espiegel123 i mentioned this before but there is no “bright” switch in the NAM app on iOS but every single NAM profile you load into the Pocket Master has a bright switch. Trying to turn this bright switch off results in utter chaos from my experience.

    Btw, I was reading about the Pocket Master in a NAM forum and it was mentioned that the device doesn't let you use an IR and a NAM profile. So, if you are using a NAM profile that doesn't have the cabinet baked in, it is not going to sound right. Since most NAM profiles assume you will run an IR after it.

    There was also speculation that it isn't running NAM profiles natively but is converting to some proprietary other format. I have no idea if that is true.

  • @espiegel123 said:

    @Uprightmusic said:
    @espiegel123 i mentioned this before but there is no “bright” switch in the NAM app on iOS but every single NAM profile you load into the Pocket Master has a bright switch. Trying to turn this bright switch off results in utter chaos from my experience.

    Btw, I was reading about the Pocket Master in a NAM forum and it was mentioned that the device doesn't let you use an IR and a NAM profile. So, if you are using a NAM profile that doesn't have the cabinet baked in, it is not going to sound right. Since most NAM profiles assume you will run an IR after it.

    There was also speculation that it isn't running NAM profiles natively but is converting to some proprietary other format. I have no idea if that is true.

    If that is true. That is seriously 😒

    However the proprietary conversion makes sense based on the way they describe their white modeling technology

    Now what they could’ve developed is even more of interest to me; maybe ArteraDsP knows ! lol jk

    As always edward is either right or offers a point of contention strong enough to give let an argument hold water at least

    I’m definitely glad I went with Fender @wim

    Lmk when you order that one too

    Crowd surfing is something I always wanted to do - really . Is it fun

  • @yellow_eyez said:

    @espiegel123 said:

    @Uprightmusic said:
    @espiegel123 i mentioned this before but there is no “bright” switch in the NAM app on iOS but every single NAM profile you load into the Pocket Master has a bright switch. Trying to turn this bright switch off results in utter chaos from my experience.

    Btw, I was reading about the Pocket Master in a NAM forum and it was mentioned that the device doesn't let you use an IR and a NAM profile. So, if you are using a NAM profile that doesn't have the cabinet baked in, it is not going to sound right. Since most NAM profiles assume you will run an IR after it.

    There was also speculation that it isn't running NAM profiles natively but is converting to some proprietary other format. I have no idea if that is true.

    If that is true. That is seriously 😒

    However the proprietary conversion makes sense based on the way they describe their white modeling technology

    Now what they could’ve developed is even more of interest to me; maybe ArteraDsP knows ! lol jk

    As always edward is either right or offers a point of contention strong enough to give let an argument hold water at least

    I’m definitely glad I went with Fender @wim

    Lmk when you order that one too

    Crowd surfing is something I always wanted to do - really . Is it fun

    I don't think the IR thing is controversial. Several people posted screenshots showing that Pocket Master's IR stage is disable when NAM is in use.

    If they are converting from NAM to something else that would mean that it will sound different from an actual NAM player.

  • It’s a shame these two threads were combined - I’m really interested in the Pocket Master and would be interested to see people’s opinion of it.

  • Good dang you guys, now you made me order that Pocket Master. I don't even need it! But it looks like a fun gadget so... :lol:

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