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  • @yellow_eyez said:
    @Gravitas
    Hey ish
    So what was the answer to the GB drummer on iPad?

    I think the genral consensus was this
    https://forum.loopypro.com/discussion/43733/convert-drummer-to-a-midi-drum-track-in-garageband-ios/p1

    in regards to GB drums.
    I haven't tried it myself as I'm knee deep in hard hitting house drum samples at the moment. ;)
    After doing the remix the other day as an example of what an Air 3, dRambo + Loopy Pro + guitar
    can do I've lined up another 5 acapellas just for fun. :smiley:

    I could’ve downloaded it and tried I guess but it’s a lot to DL when I can just ask

    :)

    Does the midi from GB convert to midi? If so, is it hard? Or just drag and drop?

    There seems to be a couple of things you need to do before getting the midi parts themselves however it is doable.
    Check the link above.

    I want to use one shot as my kit but I want the midi to be from GB hard rock drummer

    A perfect combination.

    (I still like rock Dm almost\as much as Logic drummer but I wanna try )

    Go for it.

  • @musicplayer said:
    Please recommend me some drum apps for live performing. I prefer acoustic drum sounds. It doesn't need to be Auv3 if it supports Link and accepts midi program change. I already have a couple of Lumbeat apps but I don't think the fills and random variations fit the beats, although I do like the idea of fill generation and variations. Also, I am not that good at creating beats so an app that has pre-made patterns would be ideal. Thanks in advance.

    Hi @musicplayer

    You may want to listen to what DrumPerfect Pro ( DPP ) can do and how drums/percussion tracks sound.
    https://soundcloud.com/user-45973677

    It answers all you requests:

    • Ableton Link available
    • Program Changes
    • Auto-Jam ( hundreds of professional fills ( not random generated ) 1, 2, 4 beats, playing automatically )
    • Patterns/beats with probability ( randomized variations, dynamics, humanize ( time shift and velocity ), advanced groove templates )
    • Drum/percussion pack in various styles ( acoustic ) with hundreds of authentic patterns and variations.

    Add to that:

    • loading of user's samples ( 256 per kit ) 16 kits available per song ,
    • multi-outs (8),
    • midi in/midi out to control apps like OneShot.
    • Free Auv3 module for Jam session
    • 5 new high quality drum kits
      and more...

    The full list of the update new features will be announced soon.

    @espiegel123 , @telecharge

    Last testings before update release. We are still here.

  • Hi,

    @Gilbert...I am thrilled that you and Marinus are still working on DPP!!

    I looked y'all up and thought maybe both you and Marinus were doing other things..like Marinus inventing some haptic medical device that will save many lives.......or you travelling the world taking beautiful photographs and playing amazing music in candlelit mysterious places!:-)

    I was on the last beta but then the beta ended and I could no longer contact you both.

    I have about three kits I made from your great acoustic drum samples. They play really well on my e-kit. And I'm comparing them to my Superior Drummer 2 on PC.

    I realize that because I don't use the sequencer side of DPP, I may not be the ideal beta candiudate , but I use the hell out of the sound module side of DPP!

    Gilbert can you tell me if DPP is working under ios18?
    And how can I request another beta test flight? I understand that many new features are in the seq side of DPP, but I'll test anything you want.

    Thanks to you and Marinus for making and supporting this great app!

    I'm also known as lugnut in your records.

    Its a great day!!

  • edited November 2024

    @Gilbert said:

    @musicplayer said:
    Please recommend me some drum apps for live performing. I prefer acoustic drum sounds. It doesn't need to be Auv3 if it supports Link and accepts midi program change. I already have a couple of Lumbeat apps but I don't think the fills and random variations fit the beats, although I do like the idea of fill generation and variations. Also, I am not that good at creating beats so an app that has pre-made patterns would be ideal. Thanks in advance.

    Hi @musicplayer

    You may want to listen to what DrumPerfect Pro ( DPP ) can do and how drums/percussion tracks sound.
    https://soundcloud.com/user-45973677

    It answers all you requests:

    • Ableton Link available
    • Program Changes
    • Auto-Jam ( hundreds of professional fills ( not random generated ) 1, 2, 4 beats, playing automatically )
    • Patterns/beats with probability ( randomized variations, dynamics, humanize ( time shift and velocity ), advanced groove templates )
    • Drum/percussion pack in various styles ( acoustic ) with hundreds of authentic patterns and variations.

    Add to that:

    • loading of user's samples ( 256 per kit ) 16 kits available per song ,
    • multi-outs (8),
    • midi in/midi out to control apps like OneShot.
    • Free Auv3 module for Jam session
    • 5 new high quality drum kits
      and more...

    The full list of the update new features will be announced soon.

    @espiegel123 , @telecharge

    Last testings before update release. We are still here.

    Never got auto jam to work
    I hope I can figure that out with a tutorial

    I’m glad to see you’re working on things man

    DPP was all we had until one shot. But your drums have a great sound of realism and awesome sequencer

    DPP IS STILL IN THE GAME @espiegel123 was right

  • @Gilbert said:
    The full list of the update new features will be announced soon.

    Last testings before update release. We are still here.

    Glad to hear it! 👍

  • edited November 2024

    Mentioned over on the Beepstreet forum.

    https://forum.beepstreet.com/discussion/3104/today-s-update-some-comments#latest

    "Midi file drag to launcher crash fixed" - true, it works! Has this feature been there before? I didn´t know we could drag midi files into clips. Nice! Got my Garageband Drummer midi in, working fine with OneShot.

    This is drag n dropping GB midi files into dRambo for use with OneShot.

  • @Gravitas said:
    Mentioned over on the Beepstreet forum.

    https://forum.beepstreet.com/discussion/3104/today-s-update-some-comments#latest

    "Midi file drag to launcher crash fixed" - true, it works! Has this feature been there before? I didn´t know we could drag midi files into clips. Nice! Got my Garageband Drummer midi in, working fine with OneShot.

    This is drag n dropping GB midi files into dRambo for use with OneShot.

    Mhm! Pretty sure it has worked historically and I recall using it with a midi file via Files app in Slide-Over view.

  • Doesn’t work on iPad . If it does it’s complicated.

    I guess I Might as well just send the drummer from Logic Pro 11 out to Cubasis

  • @Goldiblockz said:

    @Gravitas said:
    Mentioned over on the Beepstreet forum.

    https://forum.beepstreet.com/discussion/3104/today-s-update-some-comments#latest

    "Midi file drag to launcher crash fixed" - true, it works! Has this feature been there before? I didn´t know we could drag midi files into clips. Nice! Got my Garageband Drummer midi in, working fine with OneShot.

    This is drag n dropping GB midi files into dRambo for use with OneShot.

    Mhm! Pretty sure it has worked historically and I recall using it with a midi file via Files app in Slide-Over view.

    Ignore the crash report because that's been fixed now.

    The focus is on the drag and dropping midi files from GB into dRambo or any other app that can use midi files.

  • @yellow_eyez said:
    Doesn’t work on iPad . If it does it’s complicated.

    I still haven't tried it myself and I most probably won't ever try it because I sequence my own drums.

    I guess I Might as well just send the drummer from Logic Pro 11 out to Cubasis

    That's one way of doing it I suppose.
    Just run a midi cable and job done.
    The hassle is the fact that you have to connect your desktop to the iPad.
    However from the feedback so far you can get the midi files from GB out
    into whatever app needs it and that's way before iOS 18.

  • @yellow_eyez saying that I've just remembered I actually have GB on my iPad.
    I haven't opened it up in years.

    Let me see how straightforward it is to grab the midi file.

  • @yellow_eyez

    Dude, run a cable.
    I've just had a look at the instructional video and got the jist of recording a fragment of audio on to an audio track
    and then copying both the drummer track part and the audio part and then creating a new song file
    and then pasting what was copied in to the new song or something along those lines.

    That's way to many hoops just to get a drum groove.

    Either use samples or something like the drum apps mentioned earlier or a midi cable.

    That whole process is a creative killer for sure.

    There are challenges in life that we may like however don't make that one of them.

  • @Gravitas said:
    Just run a midi cable and job done.
    The hassle is the fact that you have to connect your desktop to the iPad.

    Probably could be done over Bluetooth MIDI too.

  • @Gravitas
    Don’t worry man. I tried it and it’s just cumbersome. lol

    I think when I have to use metal drums/oneshot for live guitars, ill just use my studio PC
    When i want to use my ko2, ill use my studio PC (logic)

    When I do any other genre or AU stuff (meaning no live guitars or vocals) ill use my iPad and op1f

    In fact i dont see why i even tried to use my iPad anymore for metal , i am happy one shot came out, but idk, not getting much further than before so i might as well rethink things

    I think its time to admit when things haven’t worked: and i think that time is finally now

    I no longer want any software or hardware, im looking to downsize everything i possibly can (got rid of my Roland S1 and my OP-Z, trying to sell my KO2 and volca drum too….just gonna keep the op1f for now)

    Keeping my Mac mini, my studio (interface+monitors), my mini lab 3 and my op1f

    Selling my ko2 and Korg volca drum for sure

    (Possibly selling my iPad now that I see no point in continuously trying - $300 from Apple isn’t bad, but its as a gift card i think, and i dont need $300 in apple gift cards if im not buying any products)

  • @yellow_eyez said:
    @Gravitas
    Don’t worry man. I tried it and it’s just cumbersome. lol

    >

    lololololololol

    Good choice of word.
    I reached expletives in 0.005 secs.

    I think when I have to use metal drums/oneshot for live guitars, ill just use my studio PC
    When i want to use my ko2, ill use my studio PC (logic)

    Good move.

    When I do any other genre or AU stuff (meaning no live guitars or vocals) ill use my iPad and op1f

    Remember there are tons of sites with free midi drum files.

    In fact i dont see why i even tried to use my iPad anymore for metal , i am happy one shot came out, but idk, not getting much further than before so i might as well rethink things

    You can use it for Metal for sure..

    I think its time to admit when things haven’t worked: and i think that time is finally now

    Straight talk, from your tone you've hit a slump.
    We all do so read what I write in context of that.

    You're not giving up, you're having a creative holiday.
    It could be a day, a week, a month, a year, a decade.
    It's a holiday.
    You need to feed yourself good creative food.

    I've dm'd you.

    Keeping my Mac mini, my studio (interface+monitors), my mini lab 3 and my op1f

    That's more than enough to smash out some tunes.

    (Possibly selling my iPad now that I see no point in continuously trying - $300 from Apple isn’t bad, but its as a gift card i think, and i dont need $300 in apple gift cards if im not buying any products)

  • Getting things out of GB has always been clunky. If you have LP then there are probably easier ways.

    Having said that, I timed it now and it took 30 seconds to go from Drummer configured to having the midi on a track. Then another 30 sec to record it into MIDI Tape Recorder.
    (The project switching done in the video is not necessary).

  • @bleep said:
    Getting things out of GB has always been clunky. If you have LP then there are probably easier ways.

    Having said that, I timed it now and it took 30 seconds to go from Drummer configured to having the midi on a track. Then another 30 sec to record it into MIDI Tape Recorder.
    (The project switching done in the video is not necessary).

    Thank (insert expletive) there's a quicker way.

    Can you do a screen recording showing how you do it for everyone else please?

  • Maybe a screen shot of initial setup will do.

    Some details turn out to actually be important here, otherwise it won’t work (clunky af), but you get used to it. At least on my iOS 17 this is needed:

    • recorder and drummer track last, no other tracks below
    • There MUST be at least one track above, for some reason
    • Do the copying of short recorder + drummer track (shown in video)
    • Delete Drummer track
    • Create two magic piano tracks at the bottom. Video said acoustic drum tracks, and that gets midi too, but then GB refuses to drag it to MTR track
    • Do the pasting, by tapping on blank part of short recorder track (see video)
    • Now you should have midi on the piano track
    • Drag it to MTR track, arm and record there, export as midi file
  • @bleep
    Awesome.

    Thank you.

  • @bleep

    I've tried it your way and yes it's clunky af however it's not as bad as creating
    another song and then doing the whole copy and pasting thing.
    It's actually okay for when one is doing prep for track wiritng and
    I've experienced far more clunky things on the iOS platform.

    Once again thank you.

  • No worries. Yeah, it’s not too bad. Doing prep is indeed the key, and in that mode it is ok. A final tip would be to have the above saved as a template, but then always start by duplicating this song in Gb and work with the copy. Otherwise autosave will mess with your initial setup.

    Did you mention you are a drummer? Would love to hear if you find the Drummer “follow” feature any good. That guy had another video about it. In one track, manually record or program your own drums loop. Then add a Drummer track and set it to “follow” your track. It should pick up your style, and then you can adjust complexity slider etc. Perhaps you would find it useful in a prepping stage.

  • (You would have thought that the two piano tracks could be part of the initial template setup, but I never got the copy-pasting to work that way)

  • @bleep said:
    No worries. Yeah, it’s not too bad. Doing prep is indeed the key, and in that mode it is ok. A final tip would be to have the above saved as a template, but then always start by duplicating this song in Gb and work with the copy. Otherwise autosave will mess with your initial setup.

    Did you mention you are a drummer? Would love to hear if you find the Drummer “follow” feature any good. That guy had another video about it. In one track, manually record or program your own drums loop. Then add a Drummer track and set it to “follow” your track. It should pick up your style, and then you can adjust complexity slider etc. Perhaps you would find it useful in a prepping stage.

    Thanks for all your help
    I actually have no success with”follow”either.
    Not sure what I’ve done work but it doesn’t adjust to the track …. If you have a links or references anyone ! Thanks

  • @Gravitas said:
    @bleep
    Awesome.

    Thank you.

    +1 Thanks, @bleep! I'm not (bleep)ing with it, but I always appreciate it when others share their knowledge and try to help out.

    @yellow_eyez said:
    If you have a links or references anyone ! Thanks

    If you search for -- garageband drummer follow feature -- you ought to get some good results. 🤞

  • @Gilbert said:

    @musicplayer said:
    Please recommend me some drum apps for live performing. I prefer acoustic drum sounds. It doesn't need to be Auv3 if it supports Link and accepts midi program change. I already have a couple of Lumbeat apps but I don't think the fills and random variations fit the beats, although I do like the idea of fill generation and variations. Also, I am not that good at creating beats so an app that has pre-made patterns would be ideal. Thanks in advance.

    Hi @musicplayer

    You may want to listen to what DrumPerfect Pro ( DPP ) can do and how drums/percussion tracks sound.
    https://soundcloud.com/user-45973677

    It answers all you requests:

    • Ableton Link available
    • Program Changes
    • Auto-Jam ( hundreds of professional fills ( not random generated ) 1, 2, 4 beats, playing automatically )
    • Patterns/beats with probability ( randomized variations, dynamics, humanize ( time shift and velocity ), advanced groove templates )
    • Drum/percussion pack in various styles ( acoustic ) with hundreds of authentic patterns and variations.

    Add to that:

    • loading of user's samples ( 256 per kit ) 16 kits available per song ,
    • multi-outs (8),
    • midi in/midi out to control apps like OneShot.
    • Free Auv3 module for Jam session
    • 5 new high quality drum kits
      and more...

    The full list of the update new features will be announced soon.

    @espiegel123 , @telecharge

    Last testings before update release. We are still here.

    Cheering you on! 🏁

  • edited November 2024

    Here is that custom Drummer using the follow feature I was referring to. Quite nice approach.

  • @bleep said:

    Did you mention you are a drummer?

    Yup.

    Would love to hear if you find the Drummer “follow” feature any good. That guy had another video about it. In one track, manually record or program your own drums loop. Then add a Drummer track and set it to “follow” your track. It should pick up your style, and then you can adjust complexity slider etc. Perhaps you would find it useful in a prepping stage.

    I really don't like the GB drummers, I find them unmusical.
    As mentioned I opened up GB for the first time in about in year so last night to test the midi thing.
    I either use drum loops or I sequence the drums myself and for the most part the latter.

  • For me the best solution is buying a library of midi drum grooves, using Helium to browse and audition, then Oneshot as the sound provider.

    Here’s some free midi grooves - https://www.jjdoge.com/groove-packs/

    I been eyeing this one for a bit - https://www.prosonic-studios.com/midi-drum-beats

  • @ecou said:
    For me the best solution is buying a library of midi drum grooves, using Helium to browse and audition, then Oneshot as the sound provider.

    Here’s some free midi grooves - https://www.jjdoge.com/groove-packs/

    I been eyeing this one for a bit - https://www.prosonic-studios.com/midi-drum-beats

    Helium still doesn’t preview the file for me
    Idk why

  • @yellow_eyez said:

    @ecou said:
    For me the best solution is buying a library of midi drum grooves, using Helium to browse and audition, then Oneshot as the sound provider.

    Here’s some free midi grooves - https://www.jjdoge.com/groove-packs/

    I been eyeing this one for a bit - https://www.prosonic-studios.com/midi-drum-beats

    Helium still doesn’t preview the file for me
    Idk why

    What DAW are you using ? It will not preview while the DAW is playing. Tested in Audiobus and Cubasis.

    You have two possible work flow. You just audition drum beat without the music playing and pick.

    Or what I do is I drop the beat in Helium while the daw is playing and if I don’t like it i press undo at the bottom of Helium.

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