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@NoiseHorse Ah, brilliant, thanks so much👍😊
Lmao
It’s the ONE drum plugin EVERYONE on this forum (who uses acoustic drum AU) needs and wants, even if they don’t know it lol
Just got a response on the N-Track forum about moving projects between ipad and Mac for anyone interested. Sounds like a good system to me:
"You can transfer a project between Mac and iPad using the .sgw packed song format. On Mac you can save as a .sgw file, on iPad select the Share button, then select ‘Share multitrack song file’. You can then move the file between the devices in a number of ways such as Airdrop, Dropbox, Google Drive etc.
Auv3 plugins that are installed on both the Mac and on iOS (and also have the same ID) should reload without issues. If a plugin cannot be found its name will appear in red in the mixer. If you re-save the song with the plugin missing (e.g. after having done some edits on the iPad), and then reload it when the plugin is installed, the plugin state should be preserved from the last time the song was saved with the plugin working."
I downloaded it again (the free one) which I have on and off since it was called “N-Track Studio Pro Multi Track Recorder” in 2014,
So much has improved since I first tried it, very different GUI etc. A lot of improvements in workflow…
Some how I managed to crash it twice in a half hour. Not sure if I was trying anything particularly challenging, I may go back and give it another go
Maybe it’s the older device I’m using, Air 4
I just received an email from n-Track announcing their Black Friday sale which runs through Dec 4th. I already own it so I can’t see the prices on the app store but I assume they’re lower than usual.
Looks like the iOS deal is the first month of a monthly subscription at £1.99, then normal price afterwards. All other subscriptions and one-time payments are the same as usual.
I don't see any discount on N-Track Studio Pro, the one-time purchase product on iOS. Well, actually, it's $0.09 cheaper than when I first looked into it about a week ago.
Boy, they sure making finding the OTP version difficult. I assume intentionally, but then I'm a cynic to the core.
Yeh it’s a bummer but I guess they’d rather push people down the subscription path. The desktop deal is pretty good, particular if you’re a student or educator. I would have been tempted if the outright mobile version was on sale as well.
For my OTP version it has a message in settings to purchase the Desktop version at discount 30%.
Maybe I'm just lucky as a long time user or this is the case for others who have the OTP version since version 9?
Hey Doug @thesoundtestroom , any chance of us getting some detailed tutorials on N-track?
Ok. What kept me from trying N-Track was seeing no mention of it being able to host auv3s on the App Store. Lucky, cause i dismissed it and wasn’t even planning on revisiting this thread.
@Telstar5 Yes, probably.
I’ve never used nTrack but since this thread I have been watching tutorials etc on YouTube, and of course, paying close attention to this thread.
All I’m trying to do now is consider which option to go for, I think I’ll try the seven day free trial then the one year sub, that works out at less than £2.30 a month.
Then if it’s not for me I have seven days to cancel before the sub starts.
I don’t want to ask the developers for a code or anything just in case I really don’t get on with the app, to be fair though it is looking very good.
Here is my first video for n-Track.
Nothing special, I go through the Orchestral sounds, and touch on a few other bits and pieces.
I’m learning as I go, but at least I’ve taken the first step😂
You’re a legend Doug. Looking forward to checking this out!
Yeah Doug, thanks : @thesoundtestroom : How are you liking it so far?
@Telstar5 It's a bit early to tell, but so far I like it, I think the selection of sounds and effects is very good.
I am finding some thing a bit clunky but that's probably down to the learning curve, I'm sure that as time goes on and I become more familiar with the app things will begin to fall into place.
It's always difficult learning a new DAW, but yeah, this has a lot of very powerful and useful features built right in.
Thanks @thesoundtestroom : Good to know that even YOU have a learning curve to deal with when learning these . I thought you always did it in 5 minutes, lol.
Thanks @thesoundtestroom. Looking forward to hearing more of your experience with it.
I installed the Mac trial version to see how it plays on desktop. Sadly it kept hanging on plugin scanning so I decided to remove some of the vst instrument plugins I had stupidly installed along with the AU versions for Logic (I need some of the VST effect plugins for Wavelab). Now it won’t even startup. Uninstalled and reinstalled to no change. Not an auspicious start. For my own use case I really want the desktop and iPad pairing for easy transfer of projects.
I got back into this on the occasion of this thread, having tried and deleted a few time since 2014…
Much cooler these days and smoother now. As I work the learning curve it Is interesting to see how the different DAWs approach the same problems. I find myself bouncing back and forth between this and the DAW that I find to be the most fluid. Pitting one against the other seems to accelerate the learning curve
Feature wise it is a close battle but more will be revealed. I may have questions for power users on this forum, and I await more of your reportage, Doug.
@Littlewoodg : FL Studio Mobile being your weapon of choice, correct ?
I admit to being DAW promiscuous but yes FLSM first, MTS second tied with BM3, Cubasis third, with SunVox as an adjunct to rule over all. N-track is now jockeying for a spot. This is not mentioning all the fun grooveboxes.
Jumping around the different workflows prompts inspiration for me it seems. FLSM is the most direct and fluid workflow for me, partly given time on task, and partly given the way the interface works.
I love FLSM and will return to it at some point. Only caveat is no AUv3 synth plugins. But I can sample oneshots via AUM to import into DWSampler. That's what I did for "The Clothes My Grandfather Wore" for example.
https://on.soundcloud.com/ooVDr4DUEc6cvgBd8
And I used FLSM to finish creating my first album "Do Androids Dream of Music" on a bloody Android tablet of all things. 😂 So that one caveat hasn't stopped me any from enjoying what FLSM has on offer.
Meanwhile, I'm eyeballing N-Track Pro (one-time payment version) myself. The automation video showed me the various automation types, including lfo-based automation curves! This of course interests me due to evolving my style back towards Ambient (at least for the time being). I've been keeping an eye on N-Track over the years and like what I see. Including its own AI Stem Splitting (not sure how clean it sounds compared to Logic Pro's AI Stem Splitting to be fair, but still amazing).
The more I play with n-track the more I see how competitive it is with logic and how much more it offers than the rest of the choices on our platform.
most likely, nothing can replace my love of Cubasis, but as I said, in the event that Cubasis went subscription, I could very easily and quite comfortably transition to n-track now without any concern or worries about the DAW
What amazes me is their speed in development. They rapidly reply and immediately begin recoding or updating their base code for the new features ; I still can’t believe I reported two things - a bug and a feature request - and in 10 days, the bug was fixed and the feature request implemented (Steinberg on the other hand has had a very reasonable and relatively small list for 10 years and still hasn’t updated a lot of those feature requests…)
@jwmmakerofmusic yeah the AI stem split blew my mind. Does it work well? Absolutely. Are there some residual artifacts from the adjacent stem, well yes, depending on the tones and sounds as you know, so I doubt they are as sophisticated as Logic but the fact that they have it and wrote their own speaks to their talent and ability and how seriously they are taking their work. For $30 I totally think you cannot buy a better DAW, despite my preference and main focus to be Cubasis (and at Cubasis regular price I’d recommend n-track; it’s just whenever Cubasis is on sale , I feel compelled to encourage any iOS producer to grab it because it really is the best UX/ interface of any DAW on any platform )
Always a personal choice…
I wonder if you have tried FLSM or MTS
(Or Auria Pro, AEM, or BM3 for that matter)
True some wouldn’t consider FLSM given that it doesn’t support AUv3 (It does support some of the best ever instruments as IAA, some of which are IAA only)
Trying all the other DAWs is of course costy-
FLSM is the cheapest of all the full DAWs at $18 USD. (This without the banks and presets IAPs). MTS is $60 with pro package features…
Meanwhile I’m enjoying learning N-Track, which for me was $60 onetime purchase because I of course bought the soundwares package
I will probably have some questions for you as I dig into the thing!
What’s the pricing for N Track is it subscription like Logic or can you buy it outright ?
$30 for the full featured app (+$30 if you want 15gb IAP for more instruments)
(Littlewoodg, Only DAW I haven’t tried is MTS, I have all the others you mentioned, I tried the rest)
@yellow_eyez Is the $30 a year or lifetime?
Lifetime access mate. There is a subscription version of N-Track 10, but the one labelled "Pro" is lifetime. https://apps.apple.com/us/app/n-track-studio-pro-daw/id1160793386 Cheers.
Has anyone successfully installed and used the desktop trial for Mac? The transfer process between iPad and desktop sounds promising however I just can’t get the desktop version to get past plugin scanning and now it won’t even boot after I removed some of my vst plugins to lighten the scanning load.
Ok cheers didn’t realise they had 2 versions.