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Wotja: Live Generative Music System

edited December 2024 in General App Discussion

Wotja is a powerful & FREE system for on-device generation of Live Generative Music & MIDI. It is actively developed by us at Intermorphic, meaning it continues to evolve.

It also has a distinguished provenance, being the consolidation and continued evolution of 1992+ SSEYO Koan, 2000-2007 intent Sound System (incl. APRE) & SSEYO miniMIXA, 2007+ Noatikl, 2007+ Liptikl, 2008+ Mixtikl & 2012+ Tiklbox.

Wotja website & resources:

Moving forwards, this thread is the main active thread on the Loopy Pro forum that we (Intermorphic) will monitor for everything related to the Wotja App as we continue to update it. Of course, there is nothing to stop you creating your own threads if you wish!

Various older Loopy Pro (Audiobus) forum threads related to Wotja (non-exhaustive list):

https://forum.loopypro.com/discussion/59017/wotja-24-arriving-on-january-1st-2024/p1 (Wotja 24)
https://forum.loopypro.com/discussion/56741/what-stuff-does-wotja-generative-music-system (Wotja 23)
https://forum.loopypro.com/discussion/53626/wotja-23-generative-music-by-intermorphic-ltd/p1 (Wotja 23)
https://forum.loopypro.com/discussion/53077/wotja-23-launched/p1 (Wotja 23)
https://forum.loopypro.com/discussion/50853/wotja-23-planning-commences (Wotja 23)
https://forum.loopypro.com/discussion/50151/a-new-generative-ambient-piece (Wotja 22)
https://forum.loopypro.com/discussion/48256/wotja-22-generative-music-app-plug-in-host-free-pro-auv3-vst3/p1 (Wotja 22)
https://forum.loopypro.com/discussion/44135/wotja-is-au/p1 (Wotja 21)
https://forum.loopypro.com/discussion/45071/wotja-21-mega-update/p1 (Wotja 21)
https://forum.loopypro.com/discussion/42871/wotja-21-pro-now-has-20-intro-discount (Wotja 21)
https://forum.loopypro.com/discussion/42799/wotja-21/p1 (Wotja 21)
https://forum.loopypro.com/discussion/41607/kill-the-internal-sound-engine-in-wotja (Wotja 20)
https://forum.loopypro.com/discussion/36679/wotja-20/p1 (Wotja 20)
https://forum.loopypro.com/discussion/36252/audio-crackles-dropouts-with-wotja-as-iaa-source-in-aum-etc (Wotja 19)
https://forum.loopypro.com/discussion/23752/wotja-speed-tutorial-everlasting-klaus-wiese-mixtape (Wotja 18)
https://forum.loopypro.com/discussion/23402/what-about-wotja-generative-music/p1 (Wotja 18)
https://forum.loopypro.com/discussion/17531/wotja-pro-non-subscription-version-of-wotja/p1 (Wotja 17)

Best wishes from Tim @imtim and Pete @impete, Intermorphic Ltd.

Comments

  • Hi Tim,

    Thanks for creating a new thread and linking all the old ones in. There is a lot of info there.

    2024 has been busy year and the rise of AI music tools really changed the music world and will probably continue to change it in the upcoming years, it’s important you've addressed this in https://wotja.com/app/#ai as Wotja is really a different tool than the likes of Udio and Suno. I think Wotja as a randomized generative tool will still have a lot of use and various uses, but I also think Wotja might benefit in the future from having its own built-in mini-AI module built inside that will take some control or randomness but will provide a lot of cool opportunities in creativity and rapidness in the flow of creation.

  • @god said:
    Hi Tim,

    Thanks for creating a new thread and linking all the old ones in. There is a lot of info there.

    2024 has been busy year and the rise of AI music tools really changed the music world and will probably continue to change it in the upcoming years, it’s important you've addressed this in https://wotja.com/app/#ai as Wotja is really a different tool than the likes of Udio and Suno. I think Wotja as a randomized generative tool will still have a lot of use and various uses, but I also think Wotja might benefit in the future from having its own built-in mini-AI module built inside that will take some control or randomness but will provide a lot of cool opportunities in creativity and rapidness in the flow of creation.

    Glad to see Tim and Pete address that, yes! And some great points there.

  • @god said:
    Thanks for creating a new thread and linking all the old ones in. There is a lot of info there.

    Thank you (and thanks, too, @Gavinski)!

    Yes, there is a lot there, and history, too, and we figured we should try to find a way to consolidate it whilst moving to this new thread. History is not for everyone and is easily lost, but it turns out it is actually quite important for those with an interest in it!

    2024 has been busy year

    It was certainly a very busy one for us, that is for sure...

    and the rise of AI music tools really changed the music world and will probably continue to change it in the upcoming years,

    Yes

    it’s important you've addressed this in https://wotja.com/app/#ai

    Thank you for spotting that! We felt it important to set out some of the issues as we saw them. We feel there is definitely a place and a need for chance (i.e. via aleatoric techniques), whether that is total (pure) chance or chance to fill in around a structure (like we allow with patterns). There is a lot more we can add (and hope to add) to Wotja that will allow more to be done here...

    as Wotja is really a different tool than the likes of Udio and Suno. I think Wotja as a randomized generative tool will still have a lot of use and various uses,

    Yes, so do we! And, we really do have a ton of non-AI things that we would like to add to Wotja, either as New Features or Improvements - but it is just a case of time. And, as everything takes time to do, time is always scarce!

    but I also think Wotja might benefit in the future from having its own built-in mini-AI module built inside that will take some control or randomness but will provide a lot of cool opportunities in creativity and rapidness in the flow of creation.

    Possibly, but there might be other approaches, too. Our view on this at the moment is that we already have support for 2 things that could already be used for some of what you might want to do (and, the real question there is of course defining what it is that you would want to do!).

    The 2 existing things in question are:
    1) The WAE Sample Player - https://wotja.com/guide/#wae-tg-sampleplayer
    You could well AI tools to create sound samples that you then use in Wotja via this unit. That would probably get you a long way. And, of course, you can save the samples to the mix so the mix is 100% portable. We will also be extending this unit in W25, but we are still working on that and trying to fix a few things so we do not want to tempt fate :).

    2) Scripting - https://wotja.com/guide/#wse
    Wotja already has quite extensive and well documented support for the use of scripting (Javascript). We appreciate scripting is not for everyone :) but it can be used to do quite a few things and we provide some worked examples. We can in time go course extend support for scripting (provided we know use cases etc. and they are technically feasible). We feel it might well be worth exploring using your AI tool of choice to create Wotja scripts (which should be possible because of our documentation.

    The other thing to highlight is that ALL our documentation is extensive (well, as far as it can be) and is also well linked. That being so, and if you wanted to, it should be possible to ask your AI tool of choice to provide you instructions on how to do something specific!

    If anyone tries any of the above we would be interested to know how you get on, and maybe you could share pointers for others.

    I hope the above makes sense!

    Best wishes, Tim

  • 12 Wotja topics on the first page. 12..

  • @Slush said:
    12 Wotja topics on the first page. 12..

    Yes, sorry. Please see this post which explains how it happened and that it was inadvertent. https://forum.loopypro.com/discussion/59017/wotja-24-arriving-on-january-1st-2024/p5. It won't happen again!

  • @imtim said:

    @Slush said:
    12 Wotja topics on the first page. 12..

    Yes, sorry. Please see this post which explains how it happened and that it was inadvertent. https://forum.loopypro.com/discussion/59017/wotja-24-arriving-on-january-1st-2024/p5. It won't happen again!

    Ah! Don’t worry! :)

  • Hi Folks.

    Wotja 25.0.0 is a major update and we expect it to be released and 12:00 am GMT Jan 1st 2025 (or so we have set up the App store releases) i.e. about 6 hours from now.

    GET WOTJA: wotja.com/get.

    With any luck our website should be updated around about then, too (+/- 3 hrs or so maybe!).

    What that means for availability in for your time zone we are not quite sure so you may need to be patient - but rest assured it will not be long before you can get your hands on it... :)

    A huge amount of work has already gone into Wotja 25 and remember that this is just the first update in the Wotja 25 Product Cycle.

    If you find you enjoy Wotja 25 then please do leave a nice App Store review (or update an earlier one) - these help us a lot. :). Thank you!

    If you have any issues with Wotja 25 then please do reach out to us via this forum thread or our website Contact Form so we can look to fix them (but not an App Store review and those are poorly suited to support). NB: We may need to have a bit of a breather first, as we have been nose to the grindstone for months. Thank you, and thank you for your patience!

    So, without further ado, here are some of the key New Features and Improvements that are in 25.0:

    • NEW FEATURE : WAE Sample & Granular Unit - Mode Clouds Granular.
    • NEW FEATURE : WAE Sample & Granular Unit - Mode Clouds PSTS (Pitch-Shift/Time-Stretch).
    • NEW FEATURE : WAE Sample & Granular Unit - Mode Clouds Looping Delay.
    • NEW FEATURE : WAE Sample & Granular Unit - Mode Particle Grains.
    • NEW FEATURE : WAE AW: Ambience: Chorus FX Unit.
    • NEW FEATURE : WAE AW: Ambience: TapeDelay2 FX Unit.
    • NEW FEATURE : WAE AW: Brightness: Air4 FX Unit.
    • NEW FEATURE : WAE AW: Effect: Fracture FX Unit.
    • NEW FEATURE : WAE AW: Filter: EQ FX Unit.
    • NEW FEATURE : WAE AW: Reverb: Galactic3 FX Unit.
    • NEW FEATURE : WAE AW: Stereo: Srsly3 FX Unit.
    • NEW FEATURE : WAE Junction Unit - Mixer Mode: X-Fade with support for Controller modulation.
    • NEW FEATURE : Templates - 25 Drones & 25 Pads.
    • NEW FEATURE : Samples for Sample & Granular Unit - 25 SG Clouds Resources.
    • NEW FEATURE : SFX Presets - 25 Synths & 25 FX.
    • NEW FEATURE : Schemas - 25 Only Drones, 25 Only Pads, 25 Mixed 1 & 25 Mixed 2.
    • NEW FEATURE : "Replace Unit" Menu item for Audio-Rate & Ctrl-Rate Units (for replace in situ).
    • NEW FEATURE : Cell-referenced MIDI files can play MIDI Channels through WAE Synth & FX Networks.
    • NEW FEATURE : Cell-referenced MIDI files can now be saved to the mix file.
    • IMPROVED : WAE Sample & Granular Unit > Import Template from Clipboard.
    • IMPROVED : Sequence Generator renamed to Pattern Generator for better clarity.
    • IMPROVED : User Guide further improved for better clarity.
    • ++: Many other Improvements and lots of bug fixes (see RELEASES for full details)

    RELEASES: wotja.com/releases/#w25-0-0.

    As you will see from the above, there are already a lot exciting New Features and Improvements to experiment & play with, and we hope you enjoy them!

    It has never been an easy journey for us (and never will be) so we thank you all so much for all the encouragement and support you have given us over the years. We know we could never have got this far without that, so we hope it continues and we can keep evolving Wotja for you!

    With best wishes to all for 2025,

    Tim and Pete
    Intermorphic

  • @imtim said:
    Hi Folks.

    Wotja 25.0.0 is a major update and we expect it to be released and 12:00 am GMT Jan 1st 2025 (or so we have set up the App store releases) i.e. about 6 hours from now.

    GET WOTJA: wotja.com/get.

    With any luck our website should be updated around about then, too (+/- 3 hrs or so maybe!).

    What that means for availability in for your time zone we are not quite sure so you may need to be patient - but rest assured it will not be long before you can get your hands on it... :)

    A huge amount of work has already gone into Wotja 25 and remember that this is just the first update in the Wotja 25 Product Cycle.

    If you find you enjoy Wotja 25 then please do leave a nice App Store review (or update an earlier one) - these help us a lot. :). Thank you!

    If you have any issues with Wotja 25 then please do reach out to us via this forum thread or our website Contact Form so we can look to fix them (but not an App Store review and those are poorly suited to support). NB: We may need to have a bit of a breather first, as we have been nose to the grindstone for months. Thank you, and thank you for your patience!

    So, without further ado, here are some of the key New Features and Improvements that are in 25.0:

    • NEW FEATURE : WAE Sample & Granular Unit - Mode Clouds Granular.
    • NEW FEATURE : WAE Sample & Granular Unit - Mode Clouds PSTS (Pitch-Shift/Time-Stretch).
    • NEW FEATURE : WAE Sample & Granular Unit - Mode Clouds Looping Delay.
    • NEW FEATURE : WAE Sample & Granular Unit - Mode Particle Grains.
    • NEW FEATURE : WAE AW: Ambience: Chorus FX Unit.
    • NEW FEATURE : WAE AW: Ambience: TapeDelay2 FX Unit.
    • NEW FEATURE : WAE AW: Brightness: Air4 FX Unit.
    • NEW FEATURE : WAE AW: Effect: Fracture FX Unit.
    • NEW FEATURE : WAE AW: Filter: EQ FX Unit.
    • NEW FEATURE : WAE AW: Reverb: Galactic3 FX Unit.
    • NEW FEATURE : WAE AW: Stereo: Srsly3 FX Unit.
    • NEW FEATURE : WAE Junction Unit - Mixer Mode: X-Fade with support for Controller modulation.
    • NEW FEATURE : Templates - 25 Drones & 25 Pads.
    • NEW FEATURE : Samples for Sample & Granular Unit - 25 SG Clouds Resources.
    • NEW FEATURE : SFX Presets - 25 Synths & 25 FX.
    • NEW FEATURE : Schemas - 25 Only Drones, 25 Only Pads, 25 Mixed 1 & 25 Mixed 2.
    • NEW FEATURE : "Replace Unit" Menu item for Audio-Rate & Ctrl-Rate Units (for replace in situ).
    • NEW FEATURE : Cell-referenced MIDI files can play MIDI Channels through WAE Synth & FX Networks.
    • NEW FEATURE : Cell-referenced MIDI files can now be saved to the mix file.
    • IMPROVED : WAE Sample & Granular Unit > Import Template from Clipboard.
    • IMPROVED : Sequence Generator renamed to Pattern Generator for better clarity.
    • IMPROVED : User Guide further improved for better clarity.
    • ++: Many other Improvements and lots of bug fixes (see RELEASES for full details)

    RELEASES: wotja.com/releases/#w25-0-0.

    As you will see from the above, there are already a lot exciting New Features and Improvements to experiment & play with, and we hope you enjoy them!

    It has never been an easy journey for us (and never will be) so we thank you all so much for all the encouragement and support you have given us over the years. We know we could never have got this far without that, so we hope it continues and we can keep evolving Wotja for you!

    With best wishes to all for 2025,

    Tim and Pete
    Intermorphic

    Thanks, that’s an impressive list of features! Can’t get my hands on the new version. Have a happy 2025!

  • @god said:
    Thanks, that’s an impressive list of features! Can’t get my hands on the new version. Have a happy 2025!

    Thanks @god :) Happy 2025 to you as well from both me and Pete!

  • edited December 2024

    Happy 2025 @god

  • Could we get some video of the new features?

    Also happy new year y’all!!!

  • @magnusovi said:
    Could we get some video of the new features?

    Also happy new year y’all!!!

    Hiya! Tim has been looking at videos, hopefully there'll be some more soon!

    Best wishes, Pete

  • Bought! But sadly haven’t had time to mess around with it, but surely would love vids

  • edited January 1

    @impete said:

    @magnusovi said:
    Could we get some video of the new features?

    Also happy new year y’all!!!

    Hiya! Tim has been looking at videos, hopefully there'll be some more soon!

    Best wishes, Pete

    Thanks! Also, bought!!

  • edited January 2

    @god and @magnusovi said:
    Bought!

    Thank you so much!

  • Yep - definitely instabuy stuff. First purchase in 2025...👍

  • @enkaytee said:
    Yep - definitely instabuy stuff. First purchase in 2025...👍

    Awesome, and thank you very much!

  • @eylvy said:

    Cool video. There is something so satisfying in creating such rich generative soundscapes so easily using Wotja

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