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EDIT: Earlier today I posted a video of Autobahn car crashes to make a joke about Wim saying no speed limits seemed to work in Germany.
I've removed it as some people might not want to see car crashes. If you want to see them there a lots on YouTube...
Not funny.
No, it isn't.
But, unfortunately, that's what you get when you have no limits.
Sometimes it's awesome though.
It’s so sad to see some true creatives leaving because they want a more general community for
conversation with the people here they have grow to love and respect.
I don’t blame the moderators. Their assignment is based upon Michael’s mission statement and
they generally make calls I agree with.
I do wish more readers would simply do what most of us do: avoid threads that don’t interest them or
trigger some negative reaction. Of course, being truly offended leads people to call the authorities.
If yet another forum emerges from this conflict I will eagerly support it while continuing to read the LPF daily
hoping for conversations that are worth participating in.
On the positive side: no one has been banned from the site which was a pretty regular event a few years back.
I rarely agreed with those outcomes either but sometimes when some people are criticized they “take to the mattresses”.
I don’t believe that there are true villains but sometimes people feel attacked and build elaborate defenses that put them at odds with the majority. I generally recommend they sleep on it and look elsewhere for a few days… there’s not that many great places to invest this kind of time on. Maybe a new one will rise up from this series of events. If it does… it will likely experience
some conflict and that may be engaging in itself. I’d like to be challenged with ideas that make me feel something… even if it’s an invitation to an argument. Some of us really do relish a good argument and engage to “win”.
But I have learned that when you offend anyone… it’s best to say “I’m sorry if I offended you.” Sometimes that’s enough to fix things and get back to a focus on IOS apps. Hint: you may not actually be sorry and it still helps when someone returns fire.
i wanted to say, i resonate with many of the voices above, and for many of the open conversation, artistic freedom reasons
i always saw the audiobus forum,, as very much like the pranksters bus from cuckoo's nest, (((making the loopypro forum a natural destination))) - we were all there to get to the apps, but shared music and conversations along the way
well the point came where we had the apps, so it became the conversation and music we returned for (((please note there is the twin thread to this, and that is the wonderful, kind hearted, and very generous support provided by very ledgable people//black mirror approximations of such)))
and that's what this is, black mirror communication,,, and some are still spooked by what they see, sometimes rightly, but whilst we're still spooked, spooks can take advantage
DEAD DOVE Do Not Eat!
this seems to be the crux of it, you know what it is going in, at what point personal responsibility (((with this in mind, titles should be considered - shouldn't they always? - or the 'other' category should not be mingled on the front page)))
appollogies i get s wept along
No apologies required - have a good day/night.
p.s. never been called a tippergore before - that's new!
Unfortunately there seems to be zero tolerance on here for threads on the more ‘esoteric’ side of life, and each time one starts, certain members seem to take it on themselves to pile in, stir things up, throw insults around (tin hats, cults) and then demand it’s closure.
And yet those same members can have their own threads where comments such as “put their face by your crotch” can be posted with total impunity.
I’m relatively new here, but it seems straightforward to me. It’s obvious when someone joins a thread to stir things up, rather than genuinely contribute, so just moderate those comments instead of closing the whole thread down, as this is exactly what they’re trying to achieve. And by confirming this behaviour is successful, they’ll do it again, and again.
And a bit of balance wouldn’t go amiss either - discussion on a major news story about drones = bad, face by your crotch = good. What does that say about the standards here?
Nowadays, more fatal accidents occur on other roads, when two oncoming cars crash into each other because one of the drivers typed on their phone or took care of their child or searched something in the car for whatever reason, and lost track.
It is. And I'd like to kindly ask any forum member who considers leaving, to think about whom of the forum members you would consider worth staying with.
Yes!
Well said!
And sometimes it's hard to understand where the pretended offense originates from.
It could be a simple misunderstanding.
Or just a bad day of someone who read the post in question.
I guess it depends where you live.
Here, in Australia, the cops cite speed (going too fast, not the drug) as the main cause of fatalities.
Hence our very original safety slogan,"Speed kills".
So it’s more of a culture issue than moderation? Or do they reinforce each other?
Dunno mate, but it certainly seems some people on here are perfectly okay with sexual innuendo, but any mention of UFO’s or ghosts, or esoterica, and they throw their toys out of the pram demanding immediate censorship.
+1000.
Musicians aren't robots that do only one thing: Make music.
@wim
Since "other" isn't in the main feed anymore and restrictions are being lifted... could someone re-open the UFO thread back up so that I can hit that fav/star on it? It was getting entertaining there for a bit before it was closed
Now you're just being mean @skiphunt. 😂
Yes! Yes to that. I want in, too.
Categorising people who may visit the 'others' section as perverts "doesn't seem to be a generous solution."
I must have missed it. Were have you seen anyone do that?
Linearman on the bottom of page 3.
Anyway, I appreciate the ability to choose this subforum to post various unrelated topics. I may not be as heavily invested or known as others on here, but sometimes it’s nice conversing with a relatively familiar group of individuals on topics outside of strictly one thing.
It’s completely foreign to me, that having the ability to post a bit more unrestricted should lead to stigmatization.
Yet it always does. Now it will be somewhat hidden
I am 100% sure Mike was joking as he is one of the main, er, "perverts" posting "other non-music" items.
Plus, he's not like that.
He wasn't calling anyone that. He was saying that the change would make people feel like that. I think we can all assume that was a bit of hyperbole. I think most people would agree this has nothing to do with anything like that.
It’s just a way of providing a different category not as limited to the main focus of this music making based forum, giving more free reign to people who like to talk about other things while minimizing distraction for those who care to focus more on music and feel they get enough of the other type of talk elsewhere.
It’s a compromise. Some people don’t want to compromise. That’s OK.
…. so just moderate those comments instead …..
The issue is that that moderation takes someone’s (unpaid) time and the issues sometimes happen at such a pace that it becomes rather dispiriting on the admin side.
Some people treat any amount of moderation as intolerable. I am amazed by the number of people here that take it as an affront if asked to keep their disagreement respectful. They feel that if they can’t be demeaning and insulting that they are being denied a right to express their opinion.
I don't think it's so much to do with the load on the moderators. That isn't fun sometimes but it's not like it's really all that difficult. It's just that it's difficult to be fair and consistent and impossible to please everyone.
This reorganization is an attempt to find a middle-ground in hopes of keeping more people happy. Some passionately disagree with it. That's to be expected and is fine.
We are going to try some different ways of approaching problem posts that we hope will help. Time will tell.
I apologize if I misunderstood, re the pervert comment
No need to apologize @JustinOllman! Online communication it isn't ever easy and especially across languages and cultures.
You definitely can’t please everyone! I appreciate that you and “the mods” in general are willing to try new approaches and to be a guiding influence. None of us get it right on every choice we make (which is not meant as an indictment of any recent choices).
Haha, diplomatically said! And yes, thanks to Michael and the mods for being open to trying this new ball pit thing, hopefully it will work out well, it’s definitely worth a try!