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Playbeat 4 by Audiomodern (Released)

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  • Bat71Bat71

    @FordTimeLord said:

    @audiomike said:
    Just wondering….. People complaining that the GUI is too small on this and other apps why don’t they put their reading glasses on?

    I always have my reading glasses on for using the iPad. These apps are still too small, the colour contrast and line weights aren’t accessible.

    Agree, I have reading glasses, still can't read the tiny text

  • RajahPRajahP

    @audiomike said:
    Just wondering….. People complaining that the GUI is too small on this and other apps why don’t they put their reading glasses on?

    Might be easier for the dev. to add an option for old farts and fat finger people.. Jesus those keys are too small.. PB3 Remix pads were better..

  • RajahPRajahP
    edited March 2025

    @garden said:
    I wonder what they mean by "AI" here. Presumably (hopefully) it doesn't connect to an external model server. So... a precompiled (weighted, trained) embedded network? A statistical model abstracted from a GAN?

    I hate their UI decisions, and cannot fathom why they absolutely refuse to make any accommodation for mobile use. I've also never gotten as much use of any of their apps as their flashy hype suggests I should. Chordjam comes in handy.

    But what the heck. At least the trial is free.

    Yep the demo is good to justify the pricing.. should be adopted by other developers to get the value for their products..

  • lukesleepwalkerlukesleepwalker

    @yellow_eyez said:
    Let me tell you something…there are drum apps and there are Drum apps.THIS^ is a DRUM app!

    I thought playbeat 3 was already incredible but this is just unexpectedly awesome on first impression.

    Here I thought it was time to rap up the drum machines list ( as 2024 was the “year of the drum machines” as many would agree….) but it looks like Playbeat 4 wants a slot on that map too…so far it’s really amazing

    I agree with @echoopera

    I've not been following drum machines for a while. What are the best from 2024 and how does Playbeat4 meet or beat them?

  • craftycuratecraftycurate

    @lukesleepwalker said:

    @yellow_eyez said:
    Let me tell you something…there are drum apps and there are Drum apps.THIS^ is a DRUM app!

    I thought playbeat 3 was already incredible but this is just unexpectedly awesome on first impression.

    Here I thought it was time to rap up the drum machines list ( as 2024 was the “year of the drum machines” as many would agree….) but it looks like Playbeat 4 wants a slot on that map too…so far it’s really amazing

    I agree with @echoopera

    I've not been following drum machines for a while. What are the best from 2024 and how does Playbeat4 meet or beat them?

    Patterning 3 is also great but quite a different beast to Playbeat. It doesn't help you generate patterns the way Playbeat does, but it is excellent at creating subtly shifting, organic drum and percussion loops, with many ways to introduce variation and randomness. Patterning 3 allows you to subtly alter or automate a wide range of sound parameters on the fly. Patterning's randomisation doesn't currently include creating kits (AFAIK) or patterns, but once you choose these, you can create excellent results using the various randomsation tools.

    Also coming up soon is Unfiltered Audio Battalion, which is going to be a powerhouse in its own right, with multiple synthesis engines, and a ton of other features, but it again will have its own way of doing things.

    Playbeat 4 seems to excel in idea generation and creating starting points for exploration, and from playing with it for a short it is very immediate and a lot of fun, and generates a lot of very musical results.

  • echooperaechoopera
    edited March 2025

    @lukesleepwalker said:

    @yellow_eyez said:
    Let me tell you something…there are drum apps and there are Drum apps.THIS^ is a DRUM app!

    I thought playbeat 3 was already incredible but this is just unexpectedly awesome on first impression.

    Here I thought it was time to rap up the drum machines list ( as 2024 was the “year of the drum machines” as many would agree….) but it looks like Playbeat 4 wants a slot on that map too…so far it’s really amazing

    I agree with @echoopera

    I've not been following drum machines for a while. What are the best from 2024 and how does Playbeat4 meet or beat them?

    I just use Playbeat for almost everything these days. It does a great job with exporting STEMS and i just love the sounds of the drums and the feature set of the app.

    I’m all about simplicity and efficiency in my workflow and the AudioModern apps just work for me and how i like to create.

    I also love how they look on screen and they run great on iPadOS and macOS for me.

  • eylvyeylvy

  • lukesleepwalkerlukesleepwalker

    @craftycurate said:

    @lukesleepwalker said:

    @yellow_eyez said:
    Let me tell you something…there are drum apps and there are Drum apps.THIS^ is a DRUM app!

    I thought playbeat 3 was already incredible but this is just unexpectedly awesome on first impression.

    Here I thought it was time to rap up the drum machines list ( as 2024 was the “year of the drum machines” as many would agree….) but it looks like Playbeat 4 wants a slot on that map too…so far it’s really amazing

    I agree with @echoopera

    I've not been following drum machines for a while. What are the best from 2024 and how does Playbeat4 meet or beat them?

    Patterning 3 is also great but quite a different beast to Playbeat. It doesn't help you generate patterns the way Playbeat does, but it is excellent at creating subtly shifting, organic drum and percussion loops, with many ways to introduce variation and randomness. Patterning 3 allows you to subtly alter or automate a wide range of sound parameters on the fly. Patterning's randomisation doesn't currently include creating kits (AFAIK) or patterns, but once you choose these, you can create excellent results using the various randomsation tools.

    Also coming up soon is Unfiltered Audio Battalion, which is going to be a powerhouse in its own right, with multiple synthesis engines, and a ton of other features, but it again will have its own way of doing things.

    Playbeat 4 seems to excel in idea generation and creating starting points for exploration, and from playing with it for a short it is very immediate and a lot of fun, and generates a lot of very musical results.

    Ah, gotcha, helpful. Thanks!

  • lukesleepwalkerlukesleepwalker

    @echoopera said:

    @lukesleepwalker said:

    @yellow_eyez said:
    Let me tell you something…there are drum apps and there are Drum apps.THIS^ is a DRUM app!

    I thought playbeat 3 was already incredible but this is just unexpectedly awesome on first impression.

    Here I thought it was time to rap up the drum machines list ( as 2024 was the “year of the drum machines” as many would agree….) but it looks like Playbeat 4 wants a slot on that map too…so far it’s really amazing

    I agree with @echoopera

    I've not been following drum machines for a while. What are the best from 2024 and how does Playbeat4 meet or beat them?

    I just use Playbeat for almost everything these days. It does a great job with exporting STEMS and i just love the sounds of the drums and the feature set of the app.

    I’m all about simplicity and efficiency in my workflow and the AudioModern apps just work for me and how i like to create.

    I also love how they look on screen and they run great on iPadOS and macOS for me.

    Thanks for the input. I've heard the results from you and those speak volumes all by themselves.

  • bleepbleep

    @lukesleepwalker said:
    Thanks for the input. I've heard the results from you and those speak volumes all by themselves.

    I started using Playbeat and felt I had an echoopera vibe going instantly ;-) Just add some lfo-filter and do some slicing …
    (also big fan of your compositions, @echoopera)

    @craftycurate said:
    Playbeat 4 seems to excel in idea generation and creating starting points for exploration, and from playing with it for a short it is very immediate and a lot of fun, and generates a lot of very musical results.

    This. The randomization options are top notch, easy to make your own variations in sound and pattern, with musical results and fast workflow for storing snapshots to keys.

  • Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredrWrlds2ndBstGeoshredr

    How is 4 better than 3? Why update?

  • Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredrWrlds2ndBstGeoshredr

    @garden said:
    I wonder what they mean by "AI" here. Presumably (hopefully) it doesn't connect to an external model server. So... a precompiled (weighted, trained) embedded network? A statistical model abstracted from a GAN?

    My guess is it's just rule-based randomization.

  • sigma79sigma79
    edited March 2025

    100% no load/crash rate though, when building a template in Drambo.

    So not usuable for now.

    edit ( same with aum )

    Iv found the issue.

    When you choose a genre, then unalocate genre with the red button ( next to the arrow to get back )

    This will crash 100% of saves.

  • AileromAilerom

    @audiomike said:
    Just wondering….. People complaining that the GUI is too small on this and other apps why don’t they put their reading glasses on?

    It's a disappointing discovery, and maybe it's not everyone. But, just having glasses doesn't bring back my eyesight to where it used to be. There are still plenty of things I can't see with glasses that my kids can read or see for me. Glasses just make it possible to function, to a degree.

  • GavinskiGavinski

    @Ailerom said:

    @audiomike said:
    Just wondering….. People complaining that the GUI is too small on this and other apps why don’t they put their reading glasses on?

    It's a disappointing discovery, and maybe it's not everyone. But, just having glasses doesn't bring back my eyesight to where it used to be. There are still plenty of things I can't see with glasses that my kids can read or see for me. Glasses just make it possible to function, to a degree.

    True. Also, many of us use varifocals, which are not even ideal for using with things like ipads mounted on a stand, as they're generally designed for reading things held the way you'd hold a book. Larger fonts are simply a better design choice all round to appeal to a large variety of users, and less likely to cause eye strain.

  • HalftoneHalftone

    @tubespace said:

    @gusgranite said:

    @gusgranite said:
    What features need Unlock? Or might be easier to ask what's in the free to try out?

    Thanks for the screenshot! Based on this - I'm going to try it. This is a smart move by the dev.

    I can really utilize this with Loopy Pro: just bake in the sounds and variations in loop format.
    Of course saving presets would be ideal - but using it with Loopy Pro will definitely help me create right away - with zero investment.

    Try saving a preset inside loopy. I was able to save presets in AUM...

  • sigma79sigma79

    I messaged devs, so probably didnt need to post here.

    The app will be good.

    Can you see if host saves crash.

    When you choose a genre ( so the box goes red )

    Then undo the red box by tapping red box.

    Use arrow next to red box to exit this screen view.

    Save project.

    By my calculations, it will crash every time.

  • skiphuntskiphunt

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:
    How is 4 better than 3? Why update?

    Meh.

    Other than a little better included samples and more color in the interface... It doesn't seem that much better than 3 to me. They're "A.I." doesn't seem all that much different than the randomization 3 already has.

    Pass for now.

  • CamblerCambler

    @Halftone said:

    @tubespace said:

    @gusgranite said:

    @gusgranite said:
    What features need Unlock? Or might be easier to ask what's in the free to try out?

    Thanks for the screenshot! Based on this - I'm going to try it. This is a smart move by the dev.

    I can really utilize this with Loopy Pro: just bake in the sounds and variations in loop format.
    Of course saving presets would be ideal - but using it with Loopy Pro will definitely help me create right away - with zero investment.

    Try saving a preset inside loopy. I was able to save presets in AUM...

    Saves in Cubasis as well.

  • tubespacetubespace

    @Halftone said:

    @tubespace said:

    @gusgranite said:

    @gusgranite said:
    What features need Unlock? Or might be easier to ask what's in the free to try out?

    Thanks for the screenshot! Based on this - I'm going to try it. This is a smart move by the dev.

    I can really utilize this with Loopy Pro: just bake in the sounds and variations in loop format.
    Of course saving presets would be ideal - but using it with Loopy Pro will definitely help me create right away - with zero investment.

    Try saving a preset inside loopy. I was able to save presets in AUM...

    Oh! Haha - I didn't think of that. Thank you so much

  • dpeacedpeace

    It appears as though the iPad OS version works fine as an AUv3 in Logic on an (M1) Mac, obviating the need to buy the desktop version. IAP unlock works fine. This pleases me. Will test more.

  • cokomairenacokomairena

    This is so much fun

  • magnusovimagnusovi
    edited March 2025

    I dig the app. For some reason it appears more intuitive than 3… I’m not sure why. But I have been able to do more things without much thought on 4.

    I am encountering an issue when using the “remix” functionality to create different patterns, not generating remixes but working with them once created. 1, The pitch changes every time I open the project, even after saving. This is annoying as hell!! And 2, I can’t find the way to sequence multiple “remixes”, is there a way to this? Currently I press the key where I saved each remix but that means I have to focus on that app instead of others. I would like to automate the patterns and not have to worry about manually switching them.

  • EdZABEdZAB

    @sigma79 said:
    I messaged devs, so probably didnt need to post here.

    The app will be good.

    Can you see if host saves crash.

    When you choose a genre ( so the box goes red )

    Then undo the red box by tapping red box.

    Use arrow next to red box to exit this screen view.

    Save project.

    By my calculations, it will crash every time.

    @sigma79 - Have you checked the DSP utilization when running those instances? I have an iPad Pro M1 model and it is showing 30-50% DSP on one PB4 instance vs. 3-6% for a factory preset in PB3. Mine is still not unlocked though, if that matters. I’m very curious to know how to your project compares. I’ve seen DSP spikes cause crashes in the past myself.

  • sigma79sigma79

    @EdZAB said:

    @sigma79 said:
    I messaged devs, so probably didnt need to post here.

    The app will be good.

    Can you see if host saves crash.

    When you choose a genre ( so the box goes red )

    Then undo the red box by tapping red box.

    Use arrow next to red box to exit this screen view.

    Save project.

    By my calculations, it will crash every time.

    @sigma79 - Have you checked the DSP utilization when running those instances? I have an iPad Pro M1 model and it is showing 30-50% DSP on one PB4 instance vs. 3-6% for a factory preset in PB3. Mine is still not unlocked though, if that matters. I’m very curious to know how to your project compares. I’ve seen DSP spikes cause crashes in the past myself.

    There is a dsp spike, I noticed. When pressing the main round button. 0-99% etc.

    This is multiout though.

    If you go to genre page. Select a genre. The red square will then highlight. If you then switch of the red sqaure. Then exit page with the arrow next to red sqaure. If you then save and reload. It will then crash.

  • sigma79sigma79
    edited March 2025

    Each load is a crash because of the process described.

    Theres no way to use app until fixed.

    At .44 is what causes it to crash upon loading. The red thing lights up because you choose a genre. Unchoosing a genre or pressing the red sqaure ( I think ) then exiting screen, will cause it to not load if you host save.

  • EdZABEdZAB

    @sigma79 said:
    I messaged devs, so probably didnt need to post here.

    The app will be good.

    Can you see if host saves crash.

    When you choose a genre ( so the box goes red )

    Then undo the red box by tapping red box.

    Use arrow next to red box to exit this screen view.

    Save project.

    By my calculations, it will crash every time.

    Confirmed - it crashes for me with a single instance using the same procedure.

  • sigma79sigma79

    @EdZAB said:

    @sigma79 said:
    I messaged devs, so probably didnt need to post here.

    The app will be good.

    Can you see if host saves crash.

    When you choose a genre ( so the box goes red )

    Then undo the red box by tapping red box.

    Use arrow next to red box to exit this screen view.

    Save project.

    By my calculations, it will crash every time.

    Confirmed - it crashes for me with a single instance using the same procedure.

    Thanks EdZAB

    Perhaps message, in case my email got lost by Fedex.

    Appreciate the confirmation of issue.

  • EdZABEdZAB
    edited March 2025

    FYI - From what I can tell by comparing the Audiomodern site before and after, the new Playbeat 4 comes with almost all of the soundpacks that were available for Playbeat 3, including the paid ones, which would have added up to 30 euros if you bought them all. There appears to be one that is no longer listed called Grids, and there are three new packs available for purchase.

    The information is gathered in the table below. Also, based on a random selection of presets, it looks like some of the preset names are similar to the previous packs ("Niner" for example), but many others that I checked had no match under the PB3 name in PB4. Needless to say, there's a very large number of presets and sounds included in PB4.

    **Please let me know if you see any discrepancies.

    **Edit: Link to Audiomodern add on packs page filtered for Playbeat:

    https://audiomodern.com/expansions/?ixwpst[product_cat][]=281&title=1&excerpt=1&content=1&categories=1&attributes=1&tags=1&sku=1&ixwpsf[taxonomy][product_cat][show]=set&ixwpsf[taxonomy][product_cat][multiple]=0&ixwpsf[taxonomy][product_cat][filter]=1&ixwpsf[taxonomy][product_tag][show]=all&ixwpsf[taxonomy][product_tag][multiple]=0&ixwpsf[taxonomy][product_tag][filter]=1

  • cokomairenacokomairena

    Crazy amount of content for the free tier

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