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"Looping Should be Federally Banned" -Professor Rabin

Prof Dani Rabin (of MarbinMusic fame) is hilarious on this topic; any reactions?

https://youtube.com/shorts/VfSg_YTZCUo?si=ZHBtHU3qDCwcawoW

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  • edited June 3

    I think the guy’s a d&*k. I didn’t last 10mins watching it.

    Although it’s got to be said that bad looping can be bad.

  • edited June 3

    @UrbanNinja said:
    Marbin (MarbinMusic) is hilarious on this topic; any reactions?

    https://youtube.com/shorts/VfSg_YTZCUo?si=ZHBtHU3qDCwcawoW

    Could just endure this less than a minute - poor guy.

  • edited June 3

    This is a hilarious take on the topic and I can fully understand why it might upset looper-based producers...
    (I have to say that for the most part I agree with him but this is the LoopyPro forum after all so it's like swearing in church).

  • edited June 3

    @Samu said:
    This is a hilarious take on the topic and I can fully understand why it might upset looper-based producers...
    (I have to say that for the most part I agree with him but this is the LoopyPro forum after all so it's like swearing in church).

    hahaha

  • edited June 3

    @supadom said:
    I think the guy’s a d&*k.

    He's actually a very fine musician and "top shelf" musical instructor;

    Of course none of that is incompatible with being "a d&*k..."

  • @UrbanNinja : I cringed when I saw the title but yeah, you’re right .

  • Counterpoint, and checkmate:

  • @richardyot said:
    Counterpoint, and checkmate:

    Too boring and repetitive for my taste, then again I'm not much of a fan of looping anyway :sunglasses:

  • @richardyot said:
    Counterpoint, and checkmate:

    Yup, she was a pioneer … I remember the aftermath of this: “I don’t know what we just witnessed but it was groundbreaking and cool.’

  • He seems like the kind of person my grandma would have called a ‘smug turd’

  • @Samu said:

    @richardyot said:
    Counterpoint, and checkmate:

    Too boring and repetitive for my taste, then again I'm not much of a fan of looping anyway :sunglasses:

    I don't think we watched the same video 😛

  • @UrbanNinja you clearly have a knack for starting controversial threads 😉

  • edited June 3

    @richardyot said:
    Counterpoint, and checkmate:

    I remember watching this live and not knowing what the hell just happened. :D At the time, incredible!

  • @Samu said:

    @richardyot said:
    Counterpoint, and checkmate:

    Too boring and repetitive for my taste, then again I'm not much of a fan of looping anyway :sunglasses:

    Looks like I’ve been spared by the YouTube gods 🤣

    Seriously though, I don’t mind a loop or two if its tastefully done

  • edited June 3

    @UrbanNinja said:
    Prof Dani Rabin (of MarbinMusic fame) is hilarious on this topic; any reactions?

    https://youtube.com/shorts/VfSg_YTZCUo?si=ZHBtHU3qDCwcawoW

    Apart from the fact that production method is much more important than the actual music, how dare anyone question his universally applicable opinion, not the least he's shown us how it must be done by playing the best and most musical guitar solo ever:
    https://youtube.com/shorts/mmt1_MlFC5g?feature=shared

  • Lol, he is 100% right but I still love listening to a good looper.

  • Seems a bit of a bold statement of “you want to make something like that in ten seconds? Play in a band.” I dunno, it’s never been as easy to materialize a band out of thin air as it is to press record on a looper.
    Given I’d prefer to be in a band any day of the week - but it’s not that simple.

  • Looping is boring and lifeless ?
    Had the chance to open for Andrew Bird once. One of my most magical memory. I'll remember the soundcheck for the rest of my life.

  • edited June 3

    I thinks it’s a little bit narrow-minded to think e. g. LP handling only loops as clips can also be audio or midi tracks as their lengths can be un set.. or devided to suite scenes.. I’ve have been playing and singing in bands and made music in several ways - every area has its strengths and weaknesses.. just need to have fun or enjoyable, thats my personal preference..

  • @UrbanNinja said:
    Prof Dani Rabin (of MarbinMusic fame) is hilarious on this topic; any reactions?

    https://youtube.com/shorts/VfSg_YTZCUo?si=ZHBtHU3qDCwcawoW

    Hilarious? I’d say overbearing and contemptuous. Sure. There are some people that use looping in uncreative boring ways. So what? There are some that don’t.

  • @Gavinski said:
    @UrbanNinja you clearly have a knack for starting controversial threads 😉

    Haha, thanks ...I think?? Life's too short for boring ;)

  • edited June 3

    @espiegel123 said:
    Hilarious? I’d say overbearing and contemptuous...

    @FordTimeLord said:
    He seems like the kind of person my grandma would have called a ‘smug turd’

    He truly is, but for some reason he does it in a manner that usually amuses me.

    For example, this Short ( There are 2 kinds of music: good and bad! #jazz #marbin #guitar #berklee)

    https://youtube.com/shorts/zuKO5mE4eJ0?si=J3rE_rWTFkCjb_GQ

    He is an equal opportunity 'smug turd' though (not just with looping); here is one of his attacks against Berklee faculty jams:

    https://youtube.com/shorts/oVYu8WhOaw0?si=UhprGYfBH8Lgf6ZG

    He also spends a lot of time defending the utility of his smugturdness and why we too should develop a "healthy" sense of disgust
    https://youtube.com/shorts/0GLiRqAIgzw?si=4VBmsfx-eO7wn3Pa

  • @UrbanNinja said:
    He is an equal opportunity 'smug turd' though

    😂😂

  • I start a groove, make a loop with the intention of making similar patterns from there and end up jamming out on the same loop for hours and then my session is done before I realize it. It’s a ‘me’ problem

  • edited June 3

    @ambrosiajam said:
    I start a groove, make a loop with the intention of making similar patterns from there and end up jamming out on the same loop for hours and then my session is done before I realize it. It’s a ‘me’ problem

    People around here are loopy

  • @Samu said:

    @richardyot said:
    Counterpoint, and checkmate:

    Too boring and repetitive for my taste, then again I'm not much of a fan of looping anyway :sunglasses:

    I agree with you.

  • @Michael_R_Grant said:

    @richardyot said:
    Counterpoint, and checkmate:

    I remember watching this live and not knowing what the hell just happened. :D At the time, incredible!

    There is a great interview with her about that appearance — which came together only days before because someone dropped out and they needed a fill-in.

    That tune wasn’t even on the record she had just released. She was pretty much an unknown, and if I remember right she was still busking.

    None of the musicians on the show had ever seen anything like it…and she had only just started learning to use the looper. The song was sort of an exercise in how to use the looper.

    A dj had recorded the tv show and made a cassette that he played on air and that got so popular, she made a proper recording and it got tacked onto the record.

    I think I heard the story on Cory Wong’s podcast.

  • I took it as I wanted. It's an opinion. I'm sure he is not alone and understanding the audience is an asset. What's not to like?

  • “Loopers are a terrible solution to a hard problem” - what problem exactly is he referring to? Solo artists wanting to play more than one part of a song? He even admits getting a band together can be challenging - I feel like a band and a looper pedal serve different purposes. I don’t think they’re trying to address the same problem - let alone whatever problem this guy is referring to.

    I don’t disagree that loopers can sound stale. But I just look at them as something to play over while practicing or to add some extra rhythm, etc.

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