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Out now: Egoist by Sugar Bytes (AB, IAA, MIDI, ACP etc compat)

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  • I was very close to pulling the trigger on the egoist but I found the price went way up to €26,99 Even though it says intro sale until cyber Monday. Oh well, I guess I'll pass this time around and wait for another sale maybe when they release a new app.

  • I'm really liking this as a Midi out sketchpad too.

    The bass sequencer is nice in the way that it gives you different types of notes (including a pitch slide up or down. And because your drums and samples are 'onboard' everything syncs and is nice and low overhead.

    Next I'm going to experiment with having Pro Midi clips sequence Parts in Egoist so that I can 'build up' a bit more and add in some extra synth-leads/chords/pads etc. driven from Pro Midi.

  • edited December 2014

    I wish Egoist had about 8 slicers, sample import in the drum machine, and maybe 8 more midi out parts.
    love sugar bytes forward way of thinking

  • @Paulinko i've used Egoist with a couple of apps usually set to receive clock which is fine, seems to have problems as clock master though, most apps i've tried it with don't work standalone or via the bus.

    @Matt_Fletcher_2000 said:

    I'm really liking this as a Midi out sketchpad too.

    The bass sequencer is nice in the way that it gives you different types of notes (including a pitch slide up or down. And because your drums and samples are 'onboard' everything syncs and is nice and low overhead.

    Next I'm going to experiment with having Pro Midi clips sequence Parts in Egoist so that I can 'build up' a bit more and add in some extra synth-leads/chords/pads etc. driven from Pro Midi.

    Yeah it takes having to run a couple of extra apps out of the equation.

  • edited December 2014

    @kobamoto I agree that a few more midi out tracks (even one more!) would be hugely useful.

    I've tried combining it with Pro Midi - allowing the 'Abelton style' clips in Pro Midi to drive other synths so i can jam-up a fuller track (with Egoist for drums and bass). This gives you 15 more MIDI channels to play with.

    After a set-back where I hit the big M button in Pro Midi that kills all midi out (took me an hour and a restart to figure out what i'd done) it worked quite well.

    The problem is, as always, MIDI sync (the overhead of sending the clock about by MIDI seems to screw things up). However, I got round this as follows:

    • Switch off all clock sending between apps (seems to cause more problems than it's worth) and just make sure all tempos in all apps are set to the same value
    • Set up patterns in Egoist as desired
    • Switch Egoist to stop (you won't be playing the transport of Egoist at all)
    • In Egoist setting switch to 'direct pattern triggering'
    • Create a clip (or clips) in ProMidi that trigger the patterns of your choice in Egoist

    That way everything runs from the ProMidi tempo because its continually triggering the Egoist patterns at the start of each of it's bars. I've found that it often fails to trigger Egoist the very first bar when you launch the Egoist clip (same if you want to switch to a diferent patern, there seems to be a 1 bar lag) in ProMidi - but then as it loops round it will trigger the next bar and forever onwards in Egoist. Keeps in time surprisingly well.

    Then you can use MIDI pro to drive all sorts of other synths and automation - all in time.

    I was doing the following

    • Midi Pro > Egoist patterns
    • Egoist (drums, slices. Egoist bass synth and midi out bass to Animoog)
    • Midi Pro > 2 x Eden (Nanostudio) synths
    • I also had FiddleWax Pro drive some chords into a 3rd Eden synth

    On an Air1.

    Great thing about Nanostudio is you can then record the midi and switch off, say Fiddlewax, and then just start looping the chords from NanoStudio (by hitting play at the right time). Same goes for other sequences from MidiPro (once happy you can commit them to NanoStudio.

    So the track built on my jamming session will now start being migrated to NanoStudio based on recording midi in for the Eden synths and recording TRG audio samples (via AB) for the Animoog parts and Egoist drums and bass synth parts.

  • Jeepers, sugar byes is such a dope company. I am still tripping on turn ado. SO this app is like the king slicer. Does it have anything to do with sounding like glitch breaks kinda glitch slices or sliver the tiny micro slices? I am guess its its own beast of course but what is the simple way to describe this. Damn with sugar bytes I know thats tough tho ha, cheers.

  • It's a groove machine which uses 3 key ingredients: sliced samples, synth bass and drum track.

    I have both Sliver and Glitch Breaks but have never really used them.

    You can do similar things with Egoist I'm sure. But probably a bit more (drum track and bass track as well as the slices).

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