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AudioPipeline AUv3 (Link AUDIO Send+Receive AUv3 plugins) [AppStore AVAILABLE]

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  • egobeatsegobeats

    Great job @dendy

  • GavinskiGavinski

    Do I remember you said this also sends midi @dendy?

  • oldsynthguyoldsynthguy

    @dendy said:

    @oldsynthguy said:
    Ah sorry, yeah it popped up on Mac Testflight - I thought that was how we should use it - a copy on iOS, and another on the Mac.

    I’ll uninstall it, I need to get around to updating Live soon anyway.

    there is existing desktop plugin, should be 100% compatible (that desktop plugin actually uses same SDK as mine), try it - both my sendse/receiver on iOS should easily communicate with that plugin sender/receiver on desktop.

    Actually that would be interesting test to try it:

    https://structurevoid.gumroad.com/l/voidlinkaudio-vst?layout=profile

    Thanks - yes that worked perfectly - I used your app to send two channels from AUM, and received onto two tracks using the VoidLink plugin.

    The VoidLink plugin also doesn't record audio onto a track directly (unless there's a setting I've missed), so I have to route it to a second audio track.

    I notice your app takes over volume control in AUM - is there any way to bypass that? No worries if not, it'd just be nice to be able to use the AUM sliders.

  • JumpercollinsJumpercollins

    @dendy from the creator of AUM on his Discord.

  • dendydendy
    edited May 7

    @oldsynthguy said:

    @dendy said:

    @oldsynthguy said:
    Ah sorry, yeah it popped up on Mac Testflight - I thought that was how we should use it - a copy on iOS, and another on the Mac.

    I’ll uninstall it, I need to get around to updating Live soon anyway.

    there is existing desktop plugin, should be 100% compatible (that desktop plugin actually uses same SDK as mine), try it - both my sendse/receiver on iOS should easily communicate with that plugin sender/receiver on desktop.

    Actually that would be interesting test to try it:

    https://structurevoid.gumroad.com/l/voidlinkaudio-vst?layout=profile

    Thanks - yes that worked perfectly - I used your app to send two channels from AUM, and received onto two tracks using the VoidLink plugin.

    The VoidLink plugin also doesn't record audio onto a track directly (unless there's a setting I've missed), so I have to route it to a second audio track.

    I notice your app takes over volume control in AUM - is there any way to bypass that? No worries if not, it'd just be nice to be able to use the AUM sliders.

    It doesn’t take over - just by default in AUM plugins are placed “PreFader” .. do long press on plugin in AUM and set it “Post FADER” .. then AUM will sent audio to plugin after the fader .. This is AUM feature, not my plugin’s, plugin just nicely sits where you put him and eats all what comes into it :-)))

  • dendydendy
    edited May 7

    @Jumpercollins said:

    @dendy from the creator of AUM on his Discord.

    Is there invitstion link to that channel somewhere ?

  • JumpercollinsJumpercollins

    Could be a cool combo. To desktop etc!

  • oldsynthguyoldsynthguy

    @dendy said:

    @oldsynthguy said:

    @dendy said:

    @oldsynthguy said:
    Ah sorry, yeah it popped up on Mac Testflight - I thought that was how we should use it - a copy on iOS, and another on the Mac.

    I’ll uninstall it, I need to get around to updating Live soon anyway.

    there is existing desktop plugin, should be 100% compatible (that desktop plugin actually uses same SDK as mine), try it - both my sendse/receiver on iOS should easily communicate with that plugin sender/receiver on desktop.

    Actually that would be interesting test to try it:

    https://structurevoid.gumroad.com/l/voidlinkaudio-vst?layout=profile

    Thanks - yes that worked perfectly - I used your app to send two channels from AUM, and received onto two tracks using the VoidLink plugin.

    The VoidLink plugin also doesn't record audio onto a track directly (unless there's a setting I've missed), so I have to route it to a second audio track.

    I notice your app takes over volume control in AUM - is there any way to bypass that? No worries if not, it'd just be nice to be able to use the AUM sliders.

    It doesn’t take over - just by default in AUM plugins are placed “PreFader” .. do long press on plugin in AUM and set it “Post FADER” .. then AUM will sent audio to plugin after the fader .. This is AUM feature, not my plugin’s, plugin just nicely sits where you put him and eats all what comes into it :-)))

    Ahhh....yes that works, thanks again!

    I love jamming in AUM, then exporting the mix onto desktop for editing, but having all the separate tracks to play with, plus the AUM faders for some live mixing - is going to give my workflow a proper boost.

    I think this will draw a few folks back to the iPad, as @Gavinski mentioned earlier.

  • dendydendy

    @Gavinski said:
    Do I remember you said this also sends midi @dendy?

    no, this is audio only

  • GavinskiGavinski

    @dendy said:

    @Gavinski said:
    Do I remember you said this also sends midi @dendy?

    no, this is audio only

    OK thanks

  • JumpercollinsJumpercollins

    Arturia Pigments into AUM ! Sweet.

  • dendydendy

    👍

  • wimwim

    @dendy said:

    @Jumpercollins said:

    @dendy from the creator of AUM on his Discord.

    Is there invitstion link to that channel somewhere ?

    https://discord.gg/syTDMp8umR

  • dendydendy

    @wim said:

    @dendy said:

    @Jumpercollins said:

    @dendy from the creator of AUM on his Discord.

    Is there invitstion link to that channel somewhere ?

    https://discord.gg/syTDMp8umR

    thanks, already there ;)

  • wimwim

    @dendy said:
    build 4 in TestFlight

    • solved problem od dropouts/distorted sounds when Sender is hosted in Garageband
    • complete rework of adaptive resampling for hosts with different sample rate

    @wim thanks for reporting !

    Fixed. 👍🏼
    Audio from GarageBand is clean now.

    In answer to your earlier question - yes, it was audio between apps on the same device.

  • wimwim

    I notice in the Link Audio settings in Ableton that there's an adjustment for latency. Is that something that would make sense for the plugin?

  • wimwim

    I see that you report the latency of the plugin to the host. That's great for hosts that have plugin delay compensation. Is it accurate do you think? It's reporting +150ms in AUM for the receive plugin.

  • PoppadocrockPoppadocrock

    Congratulations @dendy sounds like a useful tool. I’ll check it out. Cheers.

  • wimwim

    The Live panel also shows the status, whether it's getting dropouts, buffering, etc. Those features are nice to have in Sonobus. I wonder if they'd make a good addition to the plugin.

  • dendydendy

    @wim said:
    I see that you report the latency of the plugin to the host. That's great for hosts that have plugin delay compensation. Is it accurate do you think? It's reporting +150ms in AUM for the receive plugin.

    Oh.. ok this is sort of bug :)) .. forgotten code when i tested something at beginning, hard coded constatn which is approximate estimate based on some math but not real calulated number .. will look at it ..

  • wimwim

    @dendy said:

    @wim said:
    I see that you report the latency of the plugin to the host. That's great for hosts that have plugin delay compensation. Is it accurate do you think? It's reporting +150ms in AUM for the receive plugin.

    Oh.. ok this is sort of bug :)) .. forgotten code when i tested something at beginning, hard coded constatn which is approximate estimate based on some math but not real calulated number .. will look at it ..

    Yeh, in Live it shows the current latency from buffering (95ms over USB cable currently), so I guess it's available. It would be helpful to have indicated in the plugin I think.

  • espiegel123espiegel123

    @dendy : I am seeing a fair amount of latency in AUM AND Loopy Pro. Unfortunately, I don’t have time at the moment to look into the details, but it makes me wonder if the latency is being accurately reported. I might be mistaken.

  • GavinskiGavinski

    @espiegel123 said:
    @dendy : I am seeing a fair amount of latency in AUM AND Loopy Pro. Unfortunately, I don’t have time at the moment to look into the details, but it makes me wonder if the latency is being accurately reported. I might be mistaken.

    It seems to me there's significant latency even on device, when using this. I hadn't previously tried it with rhythmic stuff, when I did the results weren't usable. Error from my side? I dunno. DMed Dendy about it, let's see.

  • wimwim

    You can use Link Audio over USB to a Mac at the same time iDAM is enabled. 😎
    I crashed Live when I enabled the iPad iDAM connection, but after restarting Live, I was able to get the two audio streams working at the same time.

  • espiegel123espiegel123

    @dendy : the latency I am seeing is on the order of 220-320 ms — I checked in AUM and Loopy Pro in recorded audio.

  • wimwim
    edited May 7

    @Gavinski said:

    @espiegel123 said:
    @dendy : I am seeing a fair amount of latency in AUM AND Loopy Pro. Unfortunately, I don’t have time at the moment to look into the details, but it makes me wonder if the latency is being accurately reported. I might be mistaken.

    It seems to me there's significant latency even on device, when using this. I hadn't previously tried it with rhythmic stuff, when I did the results weren't usable. Error from my side? I dunno. DMed Dendy about it, let's see.

    That isn't surprising to me. That has been the case with Sonobus and Loopback as well. My initial take hasn't changed - that this will be loads of fun and useful for making already set up stuff work together, but not much use (for me) for live play.

    I feel like Live Audio is just a nicely polished and more broadly compatible equivalent to what Sonobus and StudioMux tried to provide. AudioPipeline is a very nicely executed and very easy to use plugin with potentially broader application than those two.

  • GavinskiGavinski

    @wim said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @espiegel123 said:
    @dendy : I am seeing a fair amount of latency in AUM AND Loopy Pro. Unfortunately, I don’t have time at the moment to look into the details, but it makes me wonder if the latency is being accurately reported. I might be mistaken.

    It seems to me there's significant latency even on device, when using this. I hadn't previously tried it with rhythmic stuff, when I did the results weren't usable. Error from my side? I dunno. DMed Dendy about it, let's see.

    That isn't surprising to me. That has been the case with Sonobus and Loopback as well. My initial take hasn't changed - that this will be loads of fun and useful for making already set up stuff work together, but not much use (for me) for live play.

    I feel like Live Audio is just a nicely polished and more broadly compatible equivalent to what Sonobus and StudioMux tried to provide. AudioPipeline is a very nicely executed and very easy to use plugin with potentially broader application than those two.

    But already set up stuff is not working right either. Too much latency to get sequences playing in time for example.

  • wimwim

    Lots of fun testing AUM out to Live over USB/AudioPipeline, plus iDAM out to Live, and two channels from Live out to AUM via AudioPipeline ... all at the same time.

  • wimwim
    edited May 7

    @Gavinski said:

    @wim said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @espiegel123 said:
    @dendy : I am seeing a fair amount of latency in AUM AND Loopy Pro. Unfortunately, I don’t have time at the moment to look into the details, but it makes me wonder if the latency is being accurately reported. I might be mistaken.

    It seems to me there's significant latency even on device, when using this. I hadn't previously tried it with rhythmic stuff, when I did the results weren't usable. Error from my side? I dunno. DMed Dendy about it, let's see.

    That isn't surprising to me. That has been the case with Sonobus and Loopback as well. My initial take hasn't changed - that this will be loads of fun and useful for making already set up stuff work together, but not much use (for me) for live play.

    I feel like Live Audio is just a nicely polished and more broadly compatible equivalent to what Sonobus and StudioMux tried to provide. AudioPipeline is a very nicely executed and very easy to use plugin with potentially broader application than those two.

    But already set up stuff is not working right either. Too much latency to get sequences playing in time for example.

    That could be due to latency reporting not working right yet, as mentioned a little earlier. Of course, that's no help if the host doesn't have latency compensation.

    I think it'll get more usable as @dendy refines things, but I imagine its going to be fairly similar to Sonobus and Loopback as far as latency goes. Maybe Ableton has some secret sauce though, who knows.

  • GavinskiGavinski

    @wim said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @wim said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @espiegel123 said:
    @dendy : I am seeing a fair amount of latency in AUM AND Loopy Pro. Unfortunately, I don’t have time at the moment to look into the details, but it makes me wonder if the latency is being accurately reported. I might be mistaken.

    It seems to me there's significant latency even on device, when using this. I hadn't previously tried it with rhythmic stuff, when I did the results weren't usable. Error from my side? I dunno. DMed Dendy about it, let's see.

    That isn't surprising to me. That has been the case with Sonobus and Loopback as well. My initial take hasn't changed - that this will be loads of fun and useful for making already set up stuff work together, but not much use (for me) for live play.

    I feel like Live Audio is just a nicely polished and more broadly compatible equivalent to what Sonobus and StudioMux tried to provide. AudioPipeline is a very nicely executed and very easy to use plugin with potentially broader application than those two.

    But already set up stuff is not working right either. Too much latency to get sequences playing in time for example.

    That could be due to latency reporting not working right yet, as mentioned a little earlier. Of course, that's no help if the host doesn't have latency compensation.

    This was from apematrix to aum, so maybe an apematrix thing? I don't normally use apematrix, no clue whether it has latency compensation or not. If it works well between hosts which do, that would be nice.

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