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Retronyms Phase84 is now out.
It's Tabletop ready. Its IAA. But......... It's not AudioBus tho, by the looks of it.
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Phase84 by Retronyms Inc
https://appsto.re/us/6glf4.i
No Audiobus is really a surprise...oh,wait.
I don't like the look of it and it's a tad to expensive for my current synth lust.Still very happy to explore FM4 grounds.I'll wait and see what Casio will bring up on the phase distortion front.
Oh,and it's retronyms of course.I would wait for user reports first.
Getting old
soooooo old 
(even if true;)
@crabman Be the guinea pig? Please? I'm curious about this one, but the lackluster earlier synths in tabletop kinda scares me off a bit. But that's not to say this one isn't totally awesome, could be...who knows.
Thanks for the heads-up.
I need a Doug's video review and a bowl of popcorns.
@ChrisG said:
No thanks ;-) As i said,don't like the look,too expensive (no,not generally for a good synth),me happy gritty with FM4 and waiting for Casio.
And before not even the promised iProphet nor iMini updates show up,i won't buy anything from them anyway.
Why am I not excited about this new synth? It just does not feel right and I have not even tried it?
It does say works on 7.0 but that does not mean it will actually do so, anyone on 7.0 tried it yet?
Instascorn.
There seems to be a lot of anxiety and negativity around Retronyms, perhaps not surprising here since they seem to be unwilling to support Audiobus in favour of their own Tabletop ecosystem...among other things...
...Yes, still waiting for updates on their other products to drop as well...
This does seem to have some nice sounds, but yeah, waiting for those Sounds to be Tested in a certain Room too!
No plans on audiobus even? If so I will pass.
it's funny, I've seen people rave about rebirth, not even knowing that retronyms developed it go figure. I for one want to try this synth out it looks great and they've kept up the workflow game they started with the impc pro…. the dev on their team seems really passionate too, I hope they pass him some impc work to do.
unfortunately 'ONLY' because of the impc pro's current issues i can't support this, but if they finish off the problems I have with the app then I'll definitely get this.
until then it's back to shooting crabs in a barrel.
It makes sense that they don't support Audiobus for any of their apps, it's a direct competitor. OTOH they do support the platform vendor's IAA, so they're not being particularly anti-consumer IMO.
yeah I don't care about that, competition is a good thing for all of us, but they need to get their apps working with soundcards for petes sake!
I understand Retronyms. Their Tabletop approach is sort of a competition to Audiobus, although we don't really see it that way. Sadly we couldn't come up with a viable way to give Retronyms the kind of deep access to Audiobus they would need to do a proper implementation within Tabletop but that's ok.
They need to sell Tabletop and we need to sell the Audiobus app to make this whole thing (points at the forum and all of that good stuff) viable. It's just business. But I do like what they're doing (except for the Wej... I don't get that thing ;D).
Don't get me wrong, I support their decision to play with them selves, I just did not want to is all. lol I even finally broke down and got iprophet, it really is the beast claimed, but it has audiobus.
I have cars in the garage that need fixing. When their mechanic comes by and shows willing, I will wander back into the showroom to look at the new models. Not until then.
oh.. retronyms.. you never learn
Sorry Retronyms, but £8.99, There are several synths sitting in my wish list which cost much less, work with Audiobus, and would provide much more 'pleasure' to my ears. I'll wait a while.
It's too cheap to say people don't love retronyms just because they don't support Audiobus.It has a LOT more reasons but not necessary to repeat it over and over again i guess.
I can't understand why they put Audiobus support in iProphet but didn't in Phase84 despite repeated requests for it. The customer is always wrong seems to be their motto.
Because it was Arturias descision (Audiobus) i would assume.
Audiobus IS the standard. Developers should realise this. Even if they have their own competing platform, they have to make their products work with what WE (the customers) require
Since it supports IAA,i would be fine with that.
I really do prefer AB but IAA will do I guess...
I've nothing against Retronyms per se, and I do enjoy some of their products.
But, as others have stated, at this price I won't buy this without having seen/heard more about it from other, independent parties (and that applies to most other products/developers as well).
What about MIDI implementation, any bugs, will it add something new in relation to other synths I already own, etc....
So - lacking Audiobus - would be a pass for me - even though the engine looks and sounds interesting.
I tweeted the same to Retronyms just now.
@gsm909 said:
A point made clear in Jakob Haq's latest interview with Nick Dika:
— At one point I thought I would ship without AudioBus or IAA to keep things simple and then add them in an update. But then I decided to hold off and get all of that working first, because I realized that there’s a pretty passionate group of iPad musicians that really need those features for their workflow.
— I’m not sure why some developers choose to ship without these features. It may be that they’re using some code library behind the scenes to build their app that doesn’t yet support Audiobus, and that it would be too difficult to implement support on their own.
— I ran up against this problem and ended up rewriting part of a code library I was using in order to support Audiobus. It was painful at the time, but I’m glad I did it and I learned a lot.
Thanks for understanding Nick. Photophore is badass, and reasonably priced!
I care about the lack of support and updates for things that Retronyms knows are wrong with their apps. They're becoming the NI of iOS -- focused on releasing new products without fixing existing ones...(although, I guess NI improved over time?)
which is all a damn shame because I really like phase distortion and there aren't that software instruments that do it...
Wait fot the upcoming casio app then.In the meantime you could play arround with the PD oscillators in Thor ;-)