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Nice. I am a fan of Cubasis, but always thought the effects options were kind of weak.
Will report later on today how they sound.
I don't own Cubasis but if I did I wouldn't be stingy with cash on IAPs as that I suspect guarantees hands on deck for future development of the app. Also pricing seems pretty in line with what one would expect on IOS in contrast with Auria plugins, however amazing they may be.
OK. Here are two renditions of exactly the same TJ performance
First has stereo widening on the output - on the master channel.
Second has that PLUS stereo narrowing on each of the instruments. Brings it out a lot more. I'd say worth the money.
I did try the new reverb - but it was spreading the signal left and right too much. I also tried AltiSpace - my favorite - but it was not playing at all nicely with Cubasis - crackling like crazy via IAA - and I had up'ed the buffer too :-( So I used the standard Cubasis built-in reverb on the master before the widening. (I guess I could have put Altispace in the Audiobus chain, but I added the reverb after recording. Hey ho.)
Here are the results.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/g3kc65vvom6io8t/TJ_no_stereo_width.wav?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/qwgegiozq2nq8ca/TJ_stereo_width.wav?dl=0
@MusicInclusive Like them both. Fair put be off in a lunchtime trance. But don't know which I'd prefer. Does this mean I should buy or shouldn't bother Doctor?
Seriously though, thanks for the experiment. Appreciated.
@JohnnyGoodyear - definite buy of FX 1 just for that alone. Definitely worth it. I only played a little with this - could have done more panning, could have used Altispace (which is MUCH better as a reverb - in the Audiobus chain as I edited my above post to mention), but it was a quick test. Even on those grounds, a no-regret IAP purchase ;-)
If you listen on something with decent stereo separation, you'll hear the difference. Esp. on the viola and violin parts.
I haven't bought FX2 yet though. :-)
Would like to know if the Wah pedal is a good replacement for the internal filter (which is just to static without any modulation).
I tried moderately hard to stay out of this thread, but this post deserves a response. I wouldn't give them a dime for this IAP. As @bootsy and @samu mentioned, they should be getting basic stuff right first. The zoom is terrible, and you can't turn off quantize for file editing.
Guess you mean"can't turn OFF quantizing".Yes,i totally agree with you.That's very annoying.
Sorry, yes I meant turning off quantize (edited my post to reflect that). To me, that error is inexcusable, and makes the app basically worthless for my needs (I do need sampling which is that exacting).
edit: Also, the dev's steadfast refusal to even acknowledge this stuff has always irked me. Doing things like putting out updates to try to get more money out of users when they already paid $50 for the app irks me even more...
Meh.. I think we've had a lot of updates and I'm ok with them adding an IAP. Of course addressing the ones mentioned would be great, but I'll allow them an IAP release without any ill feeling
True. Though I think if auria pro delivers what's been promised at first release I am moving over from Cubasis to Auria pro... but for now I'm in dubio about buying the fx packs. Guess I will..
It would also make a difference to me if Auria Pro had a easier way of doing stereo widening / narrowing.
Ultimately it is your choice @CalCutta I was just musing over your poor souls, clearly vexed over this mess. Hopefully the more heated this thread gets the more likely someone from Steinberg is to show up and do some talking. I have no idea myself but I wonder how much Apple's broken 8 has to do with the bugs you guys are on about.
I agree with this! Multiple use and saving of everything is just good smart workflow! :-)
I wouldn't get your hopes up on that. As you probably know, I've made the same complaints with far more vitriol on this board and the dev (or a representative) flat out ignored my post and responded to other. Also received no response on the Cubasis board, which is quite active.
In the end, I care more about the principle than the specifics in this situation. Charging $50 for an app and repeatedly updating it while ignoring basic and necessary functionality, then try to squeeze even more money from the userbase while still ignoring the userbase has been one of the most glaring forms of injustice in the iOS music app world, imo. Yes I'm bloviating, but Steinberg's also relying on reputation and history to get away with putting out lackluster product...
I also agree with @Crabman and @Audiojunkie.
I was quite dissapointed lately in a few multi FX apps, because they just don't work as they are supposed to. Just bought the second FX pack and it works awesome. I automated the FXs and it just works, no glitches nothing! (who wants to automate effects? Well I do! You'll get some realy creative stuff)
if this was a sampler iap i would have already downloaded it....Cubasis is absolutely crying out for one...:(
After a brief bit of time with these I have to say they are nicely done, and definitely enhance Cubasis quite a bit. Cubasis now feels a step closer to being that mythical iOS DAW that has yet to be seen. I don't think they will blow anyone away, but if you use Cubasis like me then you will definitely be pleased to have them seemlessly integrated into the app, even down to the in app help files.
Really not much else to say about them. They do what they say they do, and work well with the app as a whole. Like I say, nice to have them in the mix, pun intended.
Best part about these effects is you can now better customize the sounds included with Cubasis.
Also, I just found out they added the ability to mix up the drum kits (go to the pads section, and tap on edit). Not sure what update that was in, but it's new to me!
@1P18 Glad you're making fun with it. Def. think the idea of futzing up the included sounds is a a good notion. If you were a penniless oaf like me and were only going to pick one pack (just until my ship comes in you understand), which would you select?
Nice find about the drumsets but when i edit the pads i can choose sounds only from the already active drumset.So i'm not able to select a kick from a different set for example.Or use 3 different kicks in one set etc.Pretty much useless to me (unless i overlooked something).
Ah yeah,with all the mini fx units now: needs.more.inserts!
Or subgroups at at least.In Auria i'm running out of inserts quite often and i'm very happy to have all the subgroups..
Hmmm, tough call. I'd probably say the first one, with the delays and reverbs, but only because I'm not all that big on bit reduction, talk boxes, or wah pedals. I must admit though the new toy factor has me enjoying those as well.
Like I say though, I don't think these will leap out and make you say wow, but both taken together and in context make for a solid if not spectacular addition to Cubasis.
^Thanks.
Bought both as well now.The fact that i (had to) pay the same for both packs that i pay for one of the smaller psp effects in auria made the decision quite easy^^
@Crabman Indeed you are right, it's not a comprehensive list of drum sounds, but it still has non default sounds available (at least non default to the pad view, maybe the sounds are there for the piano view). So each kit has at least some variation available.
Not being familiar with Cubase, I checked out it's features. I smell IAP instruments for Cubasis in the future, including maybe a more full featured drum instrument. That may rub some people the wrong way, but I'd welcome them if they are worthy additions and reasonably priced.
Session drummer for Cubasis? It has a nice ring to it!
So well put and for getting shit done—and being able to recall as yet undone shit so that it might also achieve doneness—@crabman's point can not be overstated. AB state saving is awesome but having your DAW bring it all back up is money.
Everyone does things differently but I feel like AB state saving is generally for instrument setups—for things you play. Awesome. I use the feature and I love it. DAWs allowing you to hit 'open' and have the state of things the same as you left them 3 months ago is another thing entirely. Also awesome and easily worth paying for.
+1 absolutely. Especially for the crap piece of whatever it was you poured your heart into for 30 minutes at 3 am and flung across the digital room but then open three months later and think....er, actually pretty damn good.
+1 also. I like it self-contained.
But Steinberg, ffs, the zoom!!