Loopy Pro: Create music, your way.
What is Loopy Pro? — Loopy Pro is a powerful, flexible, and intuitive live looper, sampler, clip launcher and DAW for iPhone and iPad. At its core, it allows you to record and layer sounds in real-time to create complex musical arrangements. But it doesn’t stop there—Loopy Pro offers advanced tools to customize your workflow, build dynamic performance setups, and create a seamless connection between instruments, effects, and external gear.
Use it for live looping, sequencing, arranging, mixing, and much more. Whether you're a live performer, a producer, or just experimenting with sound, Loopy Pro helps you take control of your creative process.
Download on the App StoreLoopy Pro is your all-in-one musical toolkit. Try it for free today.
Audiomux
http://createdigitalmusic.com/2015/03/now-across-ios-mac-everything-connected/
You can pipe sound digitally in both directions between the Mac and iOS, with no loss in fidelity. Currently awaiting Apple approval. Requires at least iOS 7 and OS X 10.7.
Comments
Well that didn't take long...
Mmhhhh.... the official website says it requires Audiobus?! Does that mean i can use only 16 bit?!? I hope not. The good thing is these apps are growing now fast
I'm happy with the midi now but need the audio too.
wait, what do you mean it requires audio bus?
@Cinebient where does it say on the official site that either midimux or the soon to be released Audiomux app require Audiobus?
http://midimux.com
Audiomux coming soon
6.99$
from iOS 7 / Mac OSX 10.7 - requires Audiobus
is there any explanation about it, what if your only using one app at a time , what is audio bus for?
and what's the diff between this app and music iO?
Apparently these are integrated with Modstep Sequencer by the same dev, though I'm not sure what that means.
I've been able to load midimux onto an iPad 1 and play a synth in Logic Pro in Yosemite as well as on an iPad Air 2 at the same time. This will be a great solution for being able to play a midi synth and have the app it's playing on another device so you can see both at the same time.
@kobamoto Music IO will eventually be midi and audio. Currently Music IO supports iOS 6 or newer, is midi only, and you can only connect one iOS device at a time to your Mac.
Midimux supports iOS 5.1.1 on up is midi only but you can connect multiple iOS devices and their Audiomux app which has been submitted to the App Store will do audio. You can connect midi from one iOS device to another (e.g. ThumbJam on iPad 1 running a synth app on an iPad Air 2). They will do a bundle which will include Audiomux such that if you buy Midimux now you won't have to pay any additional money to buy the bundle to get Audiomux.
I've run both apps successfully getting midi to and from iOS and OSX Yosemite with both apps which are universal apps which require an app to be installed on OSX. Midimux has the software for OSX inside the app so you can use iTunes or iFunbox to install in on OSX by transfering the pkg file over and double clicking on it.
I found Midimux to be easier to use as it automagically detects all of your devices and apps plus you can turn connections off/on. Big pluses are iOS to iOS and multiple device to OSX connectivity which Music IO currently doesn't do.
I've several problems running midimux. No success trying to drive logic, ableton live or whatever I've tried. The own virtual midi port didn't send any notes. Anyone else?
@manuhz I had no problem driving GarageBand and Logic Pro on Yosemite with several different iOS devices and using Logic Pro to drive iOS apps. Did you install the software onto the Mac? How far do you get in the process of trying to make the connections?
hi manuhz, i think we can figure it out together. there is also the possibility to contact our support [ [email protected] ]. cheers, pascal.
@kobamoto You can connect individual or several different apps on the same or different iOS devices in or outside of Audiobus via Midimux which is midi only including iOS device to iOS device or iOS device to OSX Mac. I haven't tried just iOS to iOS without a Mac OSX computer yet so that combo may not work (my guess is it won't).
I bought midimux because music IO was causing my brain to melt. Hooked up my iPad, plugged my K board into my mac, opened studio one2 and a kontact synth, and opened thumbjam and cubasis. Everything pretty much fired right up playing thumbjam controlled kontact and thumbjam, playing the kboard also played both synths, but when I record in studio pro and playback it only plays kontact synth but when record into cubasis and playback both synths sound. I've tried every combo of ins and outs but can't get it to work within studio one. Any help @pascal_kaap or @Paulinko?
@Bootsy it sounds like an issue specific to the midi setup with Studio Pro getting the midi to the synths. You might want to experiment with turning midi ports off and on in midimux while playing back via Cubasis to see which ports it uses to send midi to each synth and then you can try to do the same for Studio Pro. Without being there it's difficult to figure out what's going in. It's hard to know where midi Studio Pro is sending out it's midi so it could be a configuration of the midi setup there too. The app that's supposed to be receiving midi from Studio Pro might be setup correctly for receiving midi from Cubasis but not for receiving midi from Studio Pro.
Thanks @paulinko. Yeah I tried turn all the different ports on and off and every config I could think of but no go, also have been all over in studio pro trying different things. I sure it's me and SP, I'm new to that daw so it's been a steep curve for me but hey it works in cubasis so +1 for that.
Thanks for helping @Paulinko
. @Bootsy: I'll try to reproduce the bug, you mentioned above and let you know as far as i have more informations. cheers, pascal
Thanks pascal_kaap. I'm not sure it's a bug might just be me or something in studio one that I'm missing. Thanks again.
Paulinko, thankyou very much for all of the info it was very helpful.
I'll buy the bundle ASAP when the audio version is out, my primary interest is recording my Guitar through BIAS, and tornado/FLUX:FX into Logic Pro. Will want the Midi as well. Might be a simpler thing at times then setting up the iConnectAudio4+ I am waiting for.
What kind of latency is everyone getting with the MIDI?
@pascal_kaap I ask about the latency because I can't see anyway to attach a hardware MIDI controller and still use the lightning connector cable. I am assuming I'd have to connect them to my MacBook Pro and then route them to the iPad and then route the audio back if I want to use the 65 Synths I have on my iPad. The same with my guitar except audio to the iPad and back or I'll have to use a so-so sounding audio headphone/mic interface. Yes I know I can record them into Auria, I do that now also using a single track with all the other tracks imported from LPX, I want to avoid both steps if possible.
Anyone have any thoughts on how to use Audiomux/Midimux and still digitally connect a MIDI and/or Audio Interface to the iPad other than through the OS X device? This many round trips just scares me for latency. If I can combine and send the other tracks to the iPad as well and monitor there before sending the output back to the Mac its easy to fix the latency in LPX.
Can Midimux/Audiomux send more than one track between devices? Can they be stereo, mono, or either?
I guess technically it is just a matter of implementations. There is however the Thing that you have to have both apps for midi and Audio to work. Music IO is one App for all, is going to use Soundflower however on the Mac.
Plus Music IO is a lot cheaper than the Mux Bundle. Its a matter of taste.
For me Midi LE was first but its latency was inconsistent, I then bought the second available solution and that is Music IO and that latency is almost down to Zero MS you can record 1/128 notes almost on the grid with it. Amazing.
@bootsy it took some time to set up Studio One
. but MIDI transmitting between studio one and ThumbJam works fine for me. let me know if your MIDI settings differ from mine: in ThumbJam i left everything unchanged. in Studio One i created a new Instrument (preferences-> external devices -> new Instrument) and selected ThumbJam @ as output. i activated all MIDI channels and left the checkboxes below untouched.
@BigDawgsByte your are right. you have to connect your MIDI controller to your Mac, but the latency is pretty much the same as if it is directly connected to the iOS device. i understand your concerns regarding the latency. any digital device-to-device data transmission will cause latency. i can give you some figures demonstrating the latency.
we connected an iPad Air 2 and a MacBookPro 2013 via USB, sent MIDI from Ableton Live to a Synth running on an iPad and sent the synths audio-signal back to Ableton Live (we thought that would be a common use case). we measured the time it takes from sending the MIDI Note to receiving the audio-signal. mostly it depends on the buffer-sizes used:
audiobus 128, ableton 32: ~6-7ms
audiobus 128, ableton 128: ~9-11ms
audiobus 128, ableton 256: ~15-16ms
audiobus 256, ableton 32: ~12-13ms
audiobus 256, ableton 128: ~14-15ms
audiobus 256, ableton 256: ~19-20ms
i'm not into details with your setup, but sending audio to the ipad, through audiobus twice and back would have a bit higher latency than sending only midi to the iPad and getting audio back. so the midi generated signals would be back earlier - and probably a mess to fix. would it be possible to connect your audio interface to your mac and record from there?
midimux supports multiple iDevices and multiple MIDI ports in the current version. MIDI can be sent between any of the iOS devices and the Mac, and also between each other. audiomux will come with one stereo in- & output channel per iDevice and multiple device support in the first version. in the first update, every iDevice will have multiple channels (each apps stereo stream + a mixed stereo stream as default).
cheers,
pascal
Thanks again pascal, I kind of got it working. Studio one is kind of a PIA. Did you get thumbjam to record into Studio one using the iPad screen or with a midi keyboard plugged into the mac. I can get it to record and playback thumbjam if I use the keys but not using the iPad touch screen. I did however get bs 16 to work playing the iPad screen. Still not getting any ifretless apps to work using iPad screen. The apps that I really want to use to control synth on mac unfortunately can't seem to get them to work. V
Hi Bootsy, i also can't send MIDI from thumbJam to the Mac. But this doesn't seem to be like a Studio One specific issue. Same problem with Ableton. thumbJam fires clock all the time but no other MIDI data. Sorry but i cannot help you so far, i'll give it another try tomorrow.
Hey Pascal, well I'm glad it's not something I'm doing wrong. Do you have any of the ifretless apps? I have the same problem with them. Just curious.
Thanks for all the help. Cheers!
Music IO audio is not locked into using SoundFLower, that's just the setup they used for internal routing testing and tutorials. Its audio presence will be a normal sound card entry in the manager list. So I hear from the devs in another thread somewhere.
that sounds allot better, I haven't gotten on well with soundflower, it's one of those apps that people either gel well with or don't and so far i'm in the latter camp
happy to not have to depend on it.
@pascal_kaap Thanks! That answers all my questions, I'll give it a shot as soon as Audiomux is released. Good luck!
Even better then