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That's cheaper than my 64gb> @Tommygun said:
Are you using MIDI? There are some good MIDI sequencers there that might fit the bill - you can use those to control your synths and record the audio into Auria.
So, turns out that it's worth having both! The ipad can work as a second screen for the surface, now that Duet Display's finally released windows support.
All's well that ends well!
yep, for the most part I try not to use apps together unless I absolutely have to, I much prefer staying in one environment, taking it as far as I can go and then exporting for use in another app etc...., the other way I prefer to use the ipad is like a control surface /and sound module which I feel it really excels at. I hook up it up to my external synth and just go, but those folks using stuff like bm2 as an actual daw etc... those are ios brave hearts as i would lose my inspiration quickly trying to do that. If it wasn't for Samplr and audioshare I probably would just use a macbook air.
I just tried the Duet Display. I tried on both Windows laptop and a Macbook, it works better on the Macbook - with Windows( 7) when you turn a knob on the iPad, the knob keeps jumping all over the place - not ideal for filter automation. It is better for controling vst's than Reason RE's because even with the iOS zoom feature - it's just not accurate enough and that fucks it up for RE's because they keep jumping out of their place, not sure if they can be locked in.
It looks great and I don't think there's any lag so I'm sure it's a fine product for a lot of things but not for controlling knobs especially not inside Reason on Windows ( 7). I guess experiences may vary with different laptops.
Yeah, its not true touch at all, I think they've acknowledged that. Its purely for mouse position for now. Generic display driver probably. Still, a good start. Did deem to crash a bit when i was dual monitoring ableton though.
I watched some videos about the extended usage of multi touch with FL-Studio 12. I really liked what i saw. Now i could imagine to buy someday a second workstation based on a windows multi touch device. Seems nearly everything is scalable, updates forever for free (at least until apple buy them
and lots of fantastic instruments. The routing is fantastic too. I have the feeling that this would be the right DAW for me. I still hope i could try it on a mac before i get too euphoric and then it sucks 
However, full multi touch OS is the way to go for me. I think i will wait for iOS 9 and the next generation of iPads. Maybe apple can surprise me once again (and not in a negativ direction this time.....). I hope they really merge OS X and iOS more together instead of going further with 2 different scales. Why can't they offer AudioUnits for iOS instead of this IAA crap.
I've been looking at this one as it's on sale at the mo - have you tried it with graphic software and/or a stylus?
As per my comment above, it's not multi touch on windows at the moment. It's a simple display driver that basically does mouse movements and that's it for the time being. I'm sure they'll improve on it but at hte moment, great for a second screen, and simple changes with your finger, but not an all singing, all dancing touch screen interface yet. Fortunately, my main laptop IS though, so I can just use that anyway.
ok thanks, I doubt I'll bother then. My Wacom provides touch pad functionality so I'll stick with that for now.
man, I'm soo happy I don't feel like my pads are mising this/that. I'm in this since iPad2, and I still feel like a child in a candystore. To me it's not about recreating a setup I was used to on my Mac (much less my endless frustrations with windows before that..), but so many possibilities, that just weren't there before. I'm serious, really happy that I don't feel like something's missing, I also still use the Macbook in the ways I always did...
...my humble personal opinion...
basically you're saying you're not interested in using Live on a tablet?..... I know live is quite popular and I'm not saying you should want to use it, Just clarifying that you're not feeling like anything is missing is based on your lack of desire to use the things that are missing from iOS?
Ah, yes, I remember my days of being an unpaid Microsoft tech restoring all my family and friends computers from fatal Windows OS bugs.
So, let's see, I guess I'll consider a Surface the day they give me backpay for dealing with their failures.
I rarely have a decent context for saying this in public, so I hope you don't mind...
FUCK MICROSOFT!!!
...wow, I actually feel a little better now.
Sounds like you quit before Windows 7 came out.
I don't think I've seen a BSOD since maybe W95....
My last three Windows computers have been piles of poo, and none were cheap either. My main work machine (Windows 7), while having the general look and feel of good old XP (my favourite OS ever) has none of the stability or reliability. From day 1 I had random driver issues, and to this day it's a lottery as to which drivers will or won't boot up - sometimes there's no sound, other times the mouse is stuck, wifi connection, USB ports not working etc. etc.
Then, despite the fact it was super fast, top of the range machine, Photoshop ran like a slug so I had to pay and update all of that, and it's still slower than it was on XP.
Yes I've reinstalled Windows, yes it's been looked at by experts, no it isn't any good.
I wouldn't have another Windows PC if you gave me one for nothing. iPad glitches are nothing in comparison.
Too bad. Not my experience at all, and I've pushed mine pretty hard.
Sounds like hardware issues to me, but whatevs...
Since Windows 7 and a realisation that i should never venture into the depths of the system folders and delete things i have no knowledge of......touch wood...... i have had a problem free experience on my laptop for the last 4 years...albeit not as zippy as i would like....
...went and had a play with a Surface Pro 3 whilst out today and first impressions are.....wow! this is light, smooth, surprisingly not as big as i thought it might be.....the touch seems responsive whilst browsing folders and dealing with files.....
...so far my desire is building....but what to do with my ipad and 100's of apps.....
@kobamoto: I guess I wouldn't mind being able to play live on a pad, but I like much more to be surprised by a machine, than it to just deliver what I expect beforehand. Don't get me wrong, I'm thankful, that there's guys like you, who tend to push things ( if everyone was this lazy like me, easily satisfied, I guess we would still hit those logs for rhythm). Just saying, the main beauty with these iPads to me are the things that are newly possible-- Multitouch, weird UIs, which react to the smallest pinches, surprising constellations of Apps, which weren't made to play with each other really etc. I'm just very happy with how things are for me, i padwise, also love my multimedia setup including Laptop, and I'm not having another windowsthing in my household for the foreseeable future:-),
cheers, t
http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2015/04/29/microsoft-windows-10-ios-android-apps/
And then Microsoft will bring out an update that breaks everything, Apple will release iOS 9 that smells like God, the badly built MS plasticware will die and you'll all wish you'd kept your iPads.
I just added a bassline to a track I'm working on. In around a minute Auria, Tonestack and iFretless were ready to go, remembering automatically the settings from yesterday. 5 minutes later it's done.
Yeah, awful platform for making music.
I won't question the rest of the stuff you said but isn't this normally the other way around?
It was XP and Vista at the end, but definitely not hardware related as any Linux System Rescue CD would easily apply a quality driver and filesystem to the situation. I had to rescue every other Windows system before that. Complete crapware with wide open backdoor vulnerabilities, and by far the least secure system design for the majority of its existence.
No one can sugarcoat their completely pathetic security record, and I can't be happier they've fallen flat on their face in the current generation.
I didn't have to support Windows 7 systems since I converted everyone to Linux or Mac at that time, and refused to be an unpaid Microsoft employee any longer for anyone who clung to it.
Then we soon got iOS which met the computing needs of everyone I knew.
Can't wait until Microsoft is finally discarded to its rightful place on the scrapheap of history.
I guess thats why 20% of Windows users are still on an OS that was released in 2001, 6 years before the first iOS device was released. Less than %10 of them are on the latest OS released in 2012. What percent of iOS users upgraded to IOS 8, released in September 2014, why only a piddling 75%. This is by far the worst upgrade percentage in iOS history, usually you have at least 80-90% by now.
I guess if things are "normally the other way around?", then these numbers make 90% of windows users, uh lets say, less than wise.
Yeah, I'm sure that's why IT at the place I work have somewhere close to 100 desktops all running Win7...
Probably because you got a good deal from Dell or suchlike and most users only need the basics. Or it's what your staff are used to. I've noticed a big increase in smaller offices with iMacs over the last few years though.
The Mac vs PC debate can go on forever, they're different beasts that suit different tasks and user personalities. Just because it's a popular office platform doesn't mean everyone should throw away their iPads and jump ship to Windoze.
I'm just adding my 5p's worth in defence of iOS as it seems to be taking a battering here. Yes it has bugs, yes the iFunbox issue is bad for some users, but it'll all get fixed or new workarounds will evolve.
I'm glad to see Micrisoft is catching up, but that's all it's doing.
I think this thread would be even more interesting if we were discussing iPad Air 2 vs iPad Pro (with multi touch) that had OS X and no ios compatibility.
Unfortunately for me, the iPad Pro does not exist and the reality of a tablet that I can finally run Reason 8 and Ableton 9 is here in the Surface Pro 3.....
I think to let the discussion be sullied by the Apple vs Microsoft paradigm is missing the point....
If I didn't had to go portable but upgrade my home studio I would simply buy a nice multitouch monitor and enjoy 22" on my favorite OS...(but not iOS unfortunately)
very well said.
it's also nice to see the mac vs pc wars revived, that means there are interesting things on the horizon
Yeah I agree...
My only concern is that i go with the surface pro 3 and then the iPad pro comes out like 2 months later....and it's amazing....
Just wait a few months. When iOS could load also several instances and using just AudioUnits plus the things which are yet possible on iOS it would be even far more advanced then a desktop workflow. Of course the hardware must be more powerful too. So f...... give me just iOS on my desktop. Why the f...... hell let the f...... apple don't let me use it there. No one can tell me that it wouldn't be possible. Sorry for the little rant but today i just explored the limits on booth sides and i miss again the option to just use booth on ONE powerful device. Windows.... it's your turn! Deliver something better and i'm in!
I hope the rumoured iPad pro has more than 2gb of ram otherwise it's an instant failure for me personally...
http://www.macrumors.com/roundup/ipad-pro/