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As if Logic Pro X wasn't already an insanely great value for the money.
I updated. Will try it out tomorrow.
gah! I may be reviving the old 2007 macbook Pro just for this. Any thoughts on if it is worth turning an unused vintage MBP in to a $30 Alchemy module? I'm otherwise 100% iOS.
I do have the 64 bit processor and OSX 10.9.5 and 4GB ram... all the minimum requirements are there on the MBP. I just might jump on it.
also, apparently the Logic Remote for iOS will work with Mainstage as well... very intruiging
Sounds familiar.
JG, and... is this familiar sound a happy one or more of a painful regret?
No, no, just have an eye on the main chance. I too have a MBP, same vintage etc., which I do nothing with but watch movies on, but this has got my attention. My painful regret (perhaps) would be the sneaking idea I have that I might try Alchemy on the MBP and then decide I need something 2015-ish instead in the MBP line
ah got it. slippery slope is known to be slippery.
My budget has me anchored firmly enough that I think I can go in with little risk of that. ...Will report back
For those wondering, Alchemy does seem to push the system. Freezing tracks helps a lot though. A simple test run of multiple Alchemy tracks on a new but low end Mac mini (1.4 GHz i5, 8GB RAM, "normal" non-solid state hard drive), on just the second track the CPU was up near 80%. One track had automation, I froze that track, the CPU dipped down to around 20%.
Not the most extensive test, but I think it's safe to say that with samples and automation being central to Alchemy, system specs will impact things.
Maybe I'll see just how far I can push it, with freezing and all.
Patch selection makes a difference, as some patches push the CPU a lot more than others. Freezing helps every time. I pushed it up to 6 tracks, with 3 of them frozen, CPU hovered around 40%. Unfreeze one of the frozen tracks and it goes up to about 80%. RAM was staying around 2GB the whole time, this with no other programs open. Song wasn't very long, and was probably one of the worst ever written.
Still sort of stunned at this update. 3000 patches and 14GB of data. Easy patch browsing. Haven't even really explored custom patches yet.
An iOS version of Logic could potentially be killer, especially if they took their time and carefully made it all touch screen friendly, and gave it a little different flavor than the desktop version.
Logic is the best value for DAW , that's why it's my DAW of choice.
Same here, otherwise I would be 100% iOS. It was just too good to pass up when it originally dropped to $199. Now I had to add Bios desktop and Bios FX desktop and there went about two years of iOS app purchase money. SMH
You can turn down the quality setting in Alchemy too to get more voices out of it.
Issue for me is I'll have to replace a perfectly good OS (Mountain Lion) with one that's (by most accounts I've read, and been told), going to make my 2012 MBP run slower and crash more.
What I might do, if I can work it out, is buy an SSD drive and install Yosemite and Logic on it, and see how that goes before wiping ML off my 'work' drive.
Not quite a free update for me but I was thinking of getting a new drive anyway, and updating this and the OS might give me keep it going for a few more years.
Maybe you could do the same?
Not seeing any slow down here. See pic. Ableton Live, Reaktor, Max run without issue. Not using any Graphics apps, however, apart from my daughter learning Unity3D on it.
That's probably a safe way to do it. But then I think you'll be pleasantly surprised by the speed boost you get from SSD anyway.
Thanks for the confirmation - I've read so many horror stories (forums, blogs and App Store feedback) though it's put me off updating - plus a friend with a 2013 MBP regrets doing it.
I remember you mentioned installing the SSD in another thread - was it easy to do? And is it possible to install a newer OS and Logic on it, even though I'd already have older versions on the main drive?
I'll have time to figure this out as I have work to do on it at the moment anyway and don't want to jeopardise this, but the OS/SSD upgrade looks like it'll have to happen anyway.
@monzo I'm not 100% sure about this but I thought I read somewhere since Yosemite, Apple had made installing thIrd party SSD's a PITA. Don't know if this would affect your MacBook, but because you would be upgrading the OS it may.
Can't speak for everyone obviously but "Everything went without a hitch" doesn't usually urge people to run to their nearest forum to report on. I pretty much did it how you described. Just installed from scratch.
It was very easy. Youtube is your friend. Am a bit fuzzy on the details but it went:
1/ Do a backup
2/ Replace physical drive (Don't know if this is harder on newer machines)
3/ Boot up and install Yosemite.
I was panicking over how to get the OS onto the new drive but somehow I just clicked through and signed into the app store and it took care of it (that's the bit I'm fuzzy on)
At the risk of repeating myself, I wish I had done this a lot sooner. But then, SSD drives are so much cheaper now.
No issues with Yosemite here, been using it since the beta with no problems at all. Mine gets used daily as the main computer in my mastering studio even, it's that stable for me. Rolling back via TIme Machine is usually easy enough if you decide you don't like it, but for me the improvements have made it worthwhile. Especially we can play with the full version of a new Alchemy. Did a bit with it this morning, really amazing that this came free to people who already own Logic.
For macbooks, it's very easy actually, there are dozens of good tutorials on the internet.
For mac minis, it can be a bit tricky, but still doable. I've upgraded mine w/o any problems. Now it has two drives inside: SSD and the original HDD
No issues at all
Ah ok thanks - I'd be installing it onto a new drive, maybe that'd go more smoothly.
Yeah that's the bit I'm unclear on, but I guess it's mostly automated. Thanks for the info, I'll have a search around for info on adding an SSD as a second drive - on the other thread someone mentioned using the DVD drive and a caddy.
Thanks for the confirmation
Thanks, this is what I'd be looking to do
it is easy for older mbp, but not so with latest. I got mbp 15" late 2011 model with fried GPU. I sent it to UK and a guy resoldered new chip. Got new battery (old got a tummy) and new 3rd party SSD. Amazingly goog move that was. Im on Yosemite, too.
Gonna buy mainstage today i think. I was considering Logic, but realized i not using mbp too much (got Live Std) and other thing.. i do like Reason, at least because of what does it include.
I bought MainStage. It works fine on my 2007 MacBook Pro, but I have no room for the 56GB of additional available content! (Wow, $30 is a bargain for all that)
I started with downloading the 3GB of alchemy essentials. Great sounds and no problems running any single patch live. I really can't wait to see how well Logic Remote works.
I can also confirm that an SSD + Mavericks gave astonishing new life to this old MBP. No regrets at all. These days it's less than a $100 upgrade for a 120GB SSD plus DVD drive caddy for the old HDD. Absolute no-brainer for my 2007 MBP.
You can easily move additional content to your second drive (old HDD)
Using Yosemite on a Mac Pro with 8 cores and no freezing or glitching here. Alchemy just purrs. This thing is a beast running through Scheps 73. With this mega update, Logic Pro X is much snappier and for me Alchemy was made for Logic. I did buy the iOS version with all IAPs but as an Audio Unit, this synth is just the dog's bollocks.
This story is a win win for Camel Audio and Apple.
Does Logic run on Windows? It seems STR is out of touch here
The question came 10+ years too late 
How? Moving stuff and creating aliases ?
I upgraded my 2010 MBP to SSD a couple of years ago and it was a huge improvement. I have Mavericks on one partition (10.6.8 on another) and Mainstage so was able to take a look at Alchemy. Looks cool!
I had been recording Mainstage to Logic 9 through Soundflower until a Mavericks update killed Soundflower from working properly. Anyone have any clues about that? I don't want to buy Logic X at this stage...
Yes but AFAIK aliases won't work. You'll need to use symbolic links instead ('ln -s' in Terminal)
I wonder if Apple will release Logic Pro x 10+ to windows 10?...
never