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Preview of Kymatica's Mixer

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  • It does look very interesting and competition for AB can only be a good things for us users.

  • @BiancaNeve said:
    Can't see any transport controls so not really an AB replacement

    I'm an avid AB user but never use onscreen transport controls. I also don't use state saving as it didn't work out for me. I'll probably keep using Audiobus anyway but it is good to see other ways of doing coming to the surface.

  • edited August 2015

    IAA has its own transport panel (subject to proper implementation by each app). Really looking forward to this one. Congrats to Jonatan for the brilliant idea!

  • Not trying to stir the pot or anything, but I’m glad I’m not alone in thinking this should already be in AB. Sorry, I’m going to go reflect on what a terrible person I am now.

  • Need... this... app....

  • @boone51 said:
    Not trying to stir the pot or anything, but I’m glad I’m not alone in thinking this should already be in AB. Sorry, I’m going to go reflect on what a terrible person I am now.

    I don't know that I think it needs to be in AB but I do know that it would be a great AB IAP. And that the good Mr J Lilla is about to take money that could have been theirs. :$

  • edited September 2015

    @syrupcore said:

    Absolutely. Never meant to imply it should have been free.

  • And I didn't mean to imply that I thought you were implying such things. I would never!

    In questioning the word 'need', I only meant that I can see/understand/get behind AB being a router only. I like simple apps that do one thing and do that thing really really well. But agree that a mixer feels like an almost obvious addition to the app and were it approached as a separate product (as a new layer in the AB app) that could also be a new 'one thing'.

    Selfishly, this will probably work out perfectly. We will get an amazing mixer from Kymatica and there will still be dev cycles available to get Loopy Masterpiece out the door.

  • You're absolutely right, of course. I can see either side really, but ultimately the current model probably benefits everyone. More time to focus on making AB "just work". More awesomeness from Kymatica. Plenty of room in the pool for everyone I guess.

  • @audiblevideo said:
    Gonna cry if i cant run this on my iPhone :(

    It's going to be a universal app!

  • @pierre said:
    2-Auria and cubasis are allready iOS mixers that can by-pass audiobus, i m really glad that Jonathan is bringing something lighter

    Exactly, the idea is to make a very flexible mixer app that could have been in a DAW, but without the editing and timeline.

    3-I love all kymatica s work

    Thanks :)

  • Hmm...

    We all know (and love) the AUFX Plug-Ins and I guess more than one of us would love to see those 'baked-in' into this new Mixer app so we could run multiple instances of them at the same time :)

  • What's the thing on channel 3? I don' recognize the app logo.

  • @Samu said:
    Hmm...

    We all know (and love) the AUFX Plug-Ins and I guess more than one of us would love to see those 'baked-in' into this new Mixer app so we could run multiple instances of them at the same time :)

    I think Audio Units (v3) on iOS9 will solve this! But haven't had time to dig into any iOS9 stuff yet..

  • @firejan82 said:
    What's the thing on channel 3? I don' recognize the app logo.

    I knew someone would ask :) It's a drone-oscillator-bank-modular app that I started on long ago and almost finished, then got stuck in other stuff. I will finish it some time, hopefully!

  • @j_liljedahl said:
    I knew someone would ask :) It's a drone-oscillator-bank-modular app that I started on long ago and almost finished, then got stuck in other stuff. I will finish it some time, hopefully!

    Sounds like good stuff

  • @j_liljedahl said:
    I think Audio Units (v3) on iOS9 will solve this! But haven't had time to dig into any iOS9 stuff yet..

    If so, this will be AWESOME!!!!! Do you think it will be the same for AU instruments (if such a thing is able to exist)?

  • @Igneous1 said:
    It does look very interesting and competition for AB can only be a good things for us users.

    A) I don't agree that competition would be a good thing for users. Audiobus only exists in the current form because we've been actively trying to collaborate with other developers, not compete.

    B) We know that users want a mixer. There's already functionality for this in the new Audiobus SDK and we will focus on that after we've made sure that the yearly ugliness that comes with a new iOS version is not going to affect users. Which is pretty much now.

  • @Sebastian said:
    B) We know that users want a mixer. There's already functionality for this in the new Audiobus SDK and we will focus on that after we've made sure that the yearly ugliness that comes with a new iOS version is not going to affect users. Which is pretty much now.

    Good luck with your version of tax season and very much look forward to a mixing solution from you...

  • If I saw Jonatan walking alone late at night in central park with no cops around, I'd make him take my wallet!

  • @Sebastian said:

    A) I don't agree that competition would be a good thing for users. Audiobus only exists in the current form because we've been actively trying to collaborate with other developers, not compete.
    >

    It appears that some people here have issues with AB. So with that in mind, any alternative solutions can only be a good thing ?

  • Audiobus is only really any good BECAUSE it's a standard around which most developers have united.
    We still need the same thing for midi. Midibus had promise but didn't really gain traction unfortunately. Partly I fear because the AB team promised a midi engine which has yet to see the light of day.

  • @Samu said: Hmm...
    We all know (and love) the AUFX Plug-Ins and I guess more than one of us would love to see those 'baked-in' into this new Mixer app so we could run multiple instances of them at the same time :)

    @j_liljedahl said:
    I think Audio Units (v3) on iOS9 will solve this! But haven't had time to dig into any iOS9 stuff yet..

    That'd be amazing. If it turns out not to be true for some reason, please consider adding them as IAPs. I would quite happily pay again for the ability to run more than one instance of each from within the app.

    Alternatively, you could do the Auria::SugarBytes thing where Auria can detect if a SugarBytes app is installed and if it is, you can run it as a native Auria plugin without paying again. To make sure this incredibly kindness pays for itself, you could offer a single IAP that allows this functionality.

  • @Igneous1 said: It does look very interesting and competition for AB can only be a good things for us users.

    @Sebastian said:
    A) I don't agree that competition would be a good thing for users. Audiobus only exists in the current form because we've been actively trying to collaborate with other developers, not compete.
    B) We know that users want a mixer. There's already functionality for this in the new Audiobus SDK and we will focus on that after we've made sure that the yearly ugliness that comes with a new iOS version is not going to affect users. Which is pretty much now.

    Good stuff sebastian and good luck with "tax season" indeed.

    For me, I don't even see how this could be considered competition at this point. Two different apps addressing two different problems.

  • @BiancaNeve said:
    Audiobus is only really any good BECAUSE it's a standard around which most developers have united.
    We still need the same thing for midi. Midibus had promise but didn't really gain traction unfortunately. Partly I fear because the AB team promised a midi engine which has yet to see the light of day.

    Where did they make that promise? I seem to remember @Sebastian saying exactly the opposite (that because there was no uniform protocol set by Apple for iOS, that it wouldn't be possible for the AB team to get every music dev to conform to a single protocol).

  • edited September 2015

    Where did they make that promise? I seem to remember @Sebastian saying exactly the opposite (that because there was no uniform protocol set by Apple for iOS, that it wouldn't be possible for the AB team to get every music dev to conform to a single protocol

    "The Spectacular Sync Engine is a standards-compliant, solid MIDI sync engine for iOS.

    It is designed to be very easy to work with, and provides precise, jitter-free MIDI clock transmission and robust, error-tolerant MIDI clock reception for your iOS app.

    Intensively unit-tested, accompanied by extensive documentation and a complete sample app, and written by one of the pioneers of iOS audio development and developer of Audiobus Michael Tyson, The Spectacular Sync Engine lets you easily add sync support without needing to worry about the details."

    http://thespectacularsyncengine.com

    At the bottom of the page it says launching soon.

    But I've just noticed it is used by Paterning so I wasn't entirely right in saying it has yet to see the light of day.

  • edited September 2015

    That is very very different than a "midi engine". That's a MIDI clock, that was implemented in Loopy, NOT Audiobus.

    edit: Several apps have implemented that clock but that's not the same as a standard MIDI Protocol, which is way more than a clock.

  • edited September 2015

    @syrupcore said:
    Alternatively, you could do the Auria::SugarBytes thing where Auria can detect if a SugarBytes app is installed and if it is, you can run it as a native Auria plugin without paying again. To make sure this incredibly kindness pays for itself, you could offer a single IAP that allows this functionality.

    A thousand buckets of yes please on this one Effendi....

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