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This by the way is a pic of the adapter with the charging ability Ando
I go for the round one, but my ears are weird...
I tried again, all the tips that come with the ambeo today, at home with white noise running in the background. On all of them the noise cancelling was next to non existent, to the point that I wonder if my unit is faulty. Certainly the 'transparent hearing' function works well and is much more noticeable. I think I'll definitely have to try the comply 400s. Personally I am actually pretty happy with good passive noise cancelling anyway, rather than active noise cancelling, due to the wind noise you (generally? Always?) get when wearing noise cancelling headphones on a bike.
Don't want to state the obvious, but using these with Gauss is a lot of fun... ;-)
I'd be interested in how reliable this is. Seen some Amazon reviews talking about problems, even complete failure...
Ah damn... That would be just my luck when it comes to adapters, hubs etc. The reviews I read online here in China were mostly good but let's see.
So I got the ugreen adapter mentioned above. Have only tested outside so far, so will report back later when I have a chance to compare using it at home with ambeo attached and connected / not connected to power, vs connecting the ambeo straight to my lightning iPad.
But:
It is definitely recording in stereo and field recording quality seems the same as recording direct via the lightning iPad.
It plays back sound in stereo.
It is charging fine from my portable charger
You don't need to charge while using btw, just incase anyone gets confused.
So this is a nice enough mobile setup. I definitely wouldn't record walkthrough videos outside, too much noise, too much reverb, but at least now I have a handy enough portable rig for simultaneously recording / monitoring / charging, which I haven't had on my USB C ipad for a while since my little Anker clip-on hub stopped working. I just hope it turns out to be a better experience than my previous experience with the Anker and Hyperdrive cable-free hubs.
Thanks so much, that saves me a lot of time trying to work it out!
I've always preferred the regular shape. But I presume it depends on your ear shape. So it's always a bit of trial and error finding the right size and shape to begin with.
Re the Apogee metarecorder app, I don't see much advantage over Audioshare, which most of us already have.
Metarecorder can record mono or stereo audio up to 96kHz/24-bit resolution.
Audioshare can record in 16, 24 or 32 bits.
As mentioned earlier, you can't unlock the metarecorder app for free when using a lightning to usb c adapter. You'd have to pay 10 bucks to have it on your USB C device. Not worth it unless it has some other major advantage I've overlooked.
Good points - I guess I mainly use the Ambeos on my iPhone for field recordings. I like the way Metarecorder can be launched from the remote on the earphones (not possible with an adapter cable) and that it records as seperate 'takes' in 'scenes' - gives me some structure to the way I record. The fact that it has its own folder structure in the Files app is also handy...
Interesting, I didn’t know audioshare would record in 32bits, does that work with the ambeos? I did try and record in 96khz on meta recorder the other day but it didn’t seem to work as the file I got was still 48khz when I got it into the Mac…
Just checking some things now
That mention about Audioshare bits was from the Audioshare manual - I tried just now and it didn’t actually let me record at above a bit depth of 16. Don’t see any setting for higher bit depths - the higher bit depths are mentioned on the AppStore description (but not in the manual, which I think I wrongly stated earlier). So does anyone know how to record above 16 bits in Audioshare?
I compared the recordings from Apogee MetaRecorder app and Audioshare. Audioshare recording is much louder, but also has much higher background noise. I personally noticed pretty much zero difference between recording at 16 and 24 bit in MetaRecorder.
The MetaRecorder app is recording at a very low dB - just around -24 dB.
I compared recording directly into my lightning ipad (2nd gen pro) and recording into the usb c ipad (3rd Gen pro) via the ugreen adapter I bought. No noticeable difference. If anything the USB C ipad recording was slightly louder.
I also noticed that the electric in my rented apartment definitely has issues - when recording with the Ambeo and adapter while connected to my mains I had ground loop hum. When recording with the Ambeo and adapter while connected to my portable charger there was no hum.
I am happy enough with this little adapter so far and the build seems good. The cable seems much much sturdier than the cable on, say, an Apple dongle.
I would imagine that to record into AudioShare at 32 bits you need a 32 bit capable interface.I know the new zoom one does it, although I don’t remember the model number.
But I can’t even see how to change the bit depth in Audioshare, can you? There is no setting for it that I can see. Even the choice for 24 bit is not there, whereas it is there in the MetaRecorder app. As I say I personally couldn’t hear a significant difference anyway so think I would stick with 16 bit.
I like the sound of these Sennheisers. Good mids, nice and airy, as reviewers mentioned, a decent sound stage given that they are in ear mics rather than open backed over ear headphones. Bass is definitely subdued. Will be interesting to hear what they sound like when the (round) Comply tips I ordered arrived - those will likely boost the bass a bit.
More bits generally gives you a bit more headroom in the volume, so might help with noise floor I guess? I’d quite like to mess with some 96khz stuff as half speed playback would still be 48khz of samples. Then I could use an effect to crush it into oblivion anyway, but I’d know it was there 😅
It's in settings when you start a recording:
Ah thnx Nige, not sure if I ever used Audioshare for recording. Also this menu explains why Audioshare was louder, as it seems normalization was enabled, in mine at least.
The round tips were only available in large from Comply, so I had opted for the variety pack of sizes of the originals.
Without replying to specific posts…
I haven’t found the active noise cancellation to be all that great either so I don’t think @Gavinski got a bad pair. They work, just not great. The pass-thru is pretty useful while recording though.
I’ve used the Wavebox app for recording with my Ambeos here in Mexico with good results.
Might try out the Metarecorder when I get home to compare.
Also, when out recording and walking around… a word of warning… the 3D image is so good that while you’re walking around in the same environment checking your recording… it can be very disorienting to your sense of balance.
If you’re going to check your recording while still in the same environment, I’d suggest sitting down or standing still. They can give you a sort of vertigo reaction.
My rounded medium Comply tips arrived today. Very happy with them, they fit much much better in my ears than any of the tips that came with the ambeos do, bass response is much better but not too bassy. Just the way I like it. Not sure how comfy I'll find these for extended use and am definitely glad I didn't go with the flat ones, but they definitely improve the (already very good) sound profile of the Ambeos.
Sorry if this has been discussed somewhere prior in this thread. It has.
My Anker Lightning to USB-C adapter arrived and it outputs audio on my USB-C iPad Pro and M1 Mac.
I discovered that the Sennheiser SmartHeadset and Apogee MetalRecorder apps do not detect the headset through the USB-C adapter.
I would need to purchase MetalRecorder to gain the unlimited recording option and only on one device (it is reported). I would only do that if the Ambeo “Smart Slide” works through the adapter… it does NOT. Recording in AudioShare, TW Recorder, Voice Memo, etc all accept the audio input however so it’s just like another headset with the Sennheiser/Apogee extras. Noise Cancellation and Transparent listening are supported from the headphones hardware controls. The hardware volume and start/stop button all function as expected through thr USB-C adapter.
I find I wear these headphones all day long moving the cord between iPhone, iPad and Mac so I’m going for the memory foam Earbud tips.
The “Transparent Hearing Amplify Level” really helps insure you don’t block out the real world.
The downside is that any recordings of your own voice will totally mess up your head if you don’t record with this level of audio accuracy. I sound like my dad. On the inside I’m not at all, I think but there’s no recorder to expose that ugly truth.
So, I bought a pair of these and have just tried them. I have to agree with @Gavinski and say that the noise cancellation seems to be non existent. The transparent mode works great but I can’t hear any difference between the Off mode and Noise Cancellation on mode.
To be clear, those for whom noise cancellation is working: you can hear noise cancellation kicking in when you move from Off mode to Noise cancellation mode - yes? Just trying to work out if there’s a problem with this particular pair.
Also, I only tried one quick recording before downloading the Ambeo app and updating the firmware but I’m pretty sure the recording/signal levels were much higher before the update?
I ran a faucet and could hear a bit of reduction with noise cancelling on. Then I tried a vacuum cleaner up close and could not notice a difference. I made a recording and it's obvious that these features are just for the user's benefit.
I got the Comply Memory Foam Tips with 3 sizes and like the middle size for comfort and the largest for a bit of extra isolation.
This mode really shows off the quality of the mics. They just sound like you took them off in this mode... where the sound comes from is accurate and while listening to recordings of the room the TV sounds like it's playing the thing it was just playing but the TV's still going and the 2 audio sources blend... very weird. Then my wife's voice pipes in and I need to look over and see if it's live or Memorex.
Buy these for the mics if you want field recording or binaural recording. When you see those
mannequin heads with mic's it's like that only your are the walking mannequin. It's a great way to capture live scenes and just nbc that guy who wears his headphones all the time.
That's also my experience... I wish they had a better algorithm in the chip but alas it's pretty weak.
Check to see if the "Recording Level" option is set to Natural or Reduced (good for live concerts comin' in at 100dB). You might pray for a little of that noise reduction and the thickest/densest headset tips.
There are 2 useful apps:
Sennheiser AMBEO SmartHeadset (NOT SamrtControl which is used for their TV Sound Bars)
Apogee MetaRecorder (free for iPhone/iPads with Lightning to detect the headset and $10 otherwise for USB-C adapted devices which can process the audio but are not detected as the Headset)
It's the MIC's that Sennheiser brings to the party with the chip from Apogee to convert to digital. Amazing sound under $50. I bought a second set for my wife which she might set aside and forget but I won't when mine are lost or damaged. At that time they will sell out the backlog of products unless they sell like hotcakes and change the product marketing calculus at this price.
Interesting. Like I say, my firmware was up to date already.
The noise cancellation is definitely there, but it is really subpar compared to the Bose QC30 I used to use. If you have to question whether the noise cancellation is working, then you have to conclude it is absolute shite, because good noise cancelling is immediately noticeable, and maybe even mind-blowing when you try it for the first time. The Ambeo Noise Cancelling is truly subpar to the point where it almost may not be there - and yes getting Comply tips makes a difference, but only in terms of noise isolation.
This is really odd, as it seems to work very well for me. Granted, I have nothing to compare it with, so maybe my expectations are lower. They don’t entirely get rid of everything, but what I’m left with when it’s on is much reduced volume with only the very high frequencies left, easily masked by what I’m listening to.
Has anyone successfully had a 96khz recording from these? I had a session recording snow sounds in the woods yesterday and had meta recorder set to that but just going through them now, they’re all at 48khz…
Has anyone made their own dead cats for these? I'm trying to work out if I can buy a pair of cheap lav mic dead cats, and snip the end off, to make a little dead cat cuff that I can slide up and over the mics.
Ah, that looks cool. Just got my Anker audio adapter. Wondering if the Anker would work via a USB hub, I'll have to try.
I'm trying to work out what to put into search on Amazon to find one of these, as I'm not catching it so far… any model name (in English, not Chinese) or number?