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[Logic Pro] My review - what's in and what's missing

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  • @alecsbuga Would love to be able to use Sample Crate on desktop, so I could share samples and design kits that would be able to sync via iCloud and be used in various desktop and DAW. I have no idea of the feasibility or whether that'd even be something you’d be interested in. Just thought I’d throw it out there ;)

  • @Banquet said:
    It's not in the violin settings, it's in the keyboard settings. Open the keyboard, click on the 3 dots, then surface settings, then select polyphonic pitchblend.

    Yep, I've found that, but it's for the keyboard option only. I don't want to play a violin that way, via a piano keyboard. It's weird.

  • @monz0id said:

    Yeah, I could spend a few years learning the violin so I can slide notes. Or use GarageBand instead.

    Hahaha... Exactly... Fucking hell, the whole point of these things is that you DON'T have to go and learn a million different instruments. @BerlinFx very few ppl here are interested in being pros, they just want to have a good time and get decent results for their own enjoyment, and that of the handful of other people who listen, with as little friction as possible

  • @Banquet said:

    It's not in the violin settings, it's in the keyboard settings. Open the keyboard, click on the 3 dots, then surface settings, then select polyphonic pitchblend.

    If you want something that responds well to pitchbend, modelled is usually better than sampled. Perhaps try the SWAM instruments.

    But my experience of the polyphonic pitchbend in the keyboard in Logic is that it has a very aggressive snap to notes feature and I can't see any way to alter it. Basically it sounds like shit for doing long glides. Geoshred instruments BY DEFAULT also have a slightly aggressive snap for my taste, but it can be adjusted right down to zero snap, allowing beautiful smooth glides.

  • @HotStrange said:

    It’s definitely on my to buy list. Do you have to manually move your samples or does it sync to the files app automatically?

    It is basically just like the files app but it allows you to preview midi and audio files with one touch, without opening a separate window.

  • @Gavinski said:

    But my experience of the polyphonic pitchbend in the keyboard in Logic is that it has a very aggressive snap to notes feature and I can't see any way to alter it. Basically it sounds like shit for doing long glides. Geoshred instruments BY DEFAULT also have a slightly aggressive snap for my taste, but it can be adjusted right down to zero snap, allowing beautiful smooth glides.

    Yep, you can only move the notes a few semitones each way in the piano keyboard view, which is extremely limiting, and there isn’t the visual feedback you’d get with a view of an actual fingerboard.

    Another cludge.

  • Logic has a ton of keyboard/surface type controls that no other ‘pro’ DAW on iOS or desktop has already.

    People coming from GB (and there will be A LOT) will be asking for the features that are missing.

    One feature I’d like in the future is more control over the drum pads.

    For examples if I make a pattern region for, say, ruismaker I would like the pads to automatically be assigned to notes in the rows I have in the pattern editor.

    Or at least let me manually assign them and save them as a template.

    I don’t think I’ll use the guitar strip much but it’s useful having the chords/scale keyboards.

  • @Gavinski said:

    It is basically just like the files app but it allows you to preview midi and audio files with one touch, without opening a separate window.

    That alone is super useful. What’s the other benefit? It makes drag n drop easier?

  • edited May 2023

    How do you enable recording automatic midi quantization? I can’t find and spent some time on this. Some things are not evident to use or find in Logic IMO.

  • @Janosax said:
    How do you enable recording automatic midi quantization? I can’t find and spent some time on this. Some things are not evident to use or find in Logic IMO.

    With no tracks selected, select the quantisation settings you want as default in the inspector.

    Any regions you create after that will use those settings.

    The parameter inspector is key to getting the most out of Logic.

    It’s all non-destructive.

    With it you can quantise, transpose, delay (very useful for granular control over the feel of day a snare), gate (you can non destructively alter the length of notes), velocity, looping, muting.

    And with an audio region selected you can change the gain, fade in/out, reverse, quantise audio etc.

  • @klownshed said:

    With no tracks selected, select the quantisation settings you want as default in the inspector.

    Any regions you create after that will use those settings.

    The parameter inspector is key to getting the most out of Logic.

    It’s all non-destructive.

    With it you can quantise, transpose, delay (very useful for granular control over the feel of day a snare), gate (you can non destructively alter the length of notes), velocity, looping, muting.

    And with an audio region selected you can change the gain, fade in/out, reverse, quantise audio etc.

    Thanks I will take a look. You can quantize audio?

  • edited May 2023

    @Janosax said:

    Thanks I will take a look. You can quantize audio?

    Yes, you/we can quantize Audio also in the inspector... Even give it swing etc etc...

  • @Janosax said:

    Thanks I will take a look. You can quantize audio?

    Yes.

  • It doesn't make drag and drop easier really... But drag and drop is generally superior to loading from within an app itself. Why? Because the files app does not remember your last location. So if you open files from within an app and scroll to, say, a samples folder somewhere in audioshare, and load a file from it, then if you want to load another file, you will have to navigate to the relevant folder all over again. It's ludicrously stupid. So by using drag and drop you can just keep that folder open in slideover, knock it offscreen when not using swipe to bring it back in, and it will still be at the last location you left it at, the last folder or whatever. Much better. And if you keep the slideover app on the left of the screen, you won't accidentally trigger 'delete' when trying to drag, as often happens when trying to drag from the right side

    @HotStrange said:

    That alone is super useful. What’s the other benefit? It makes drag n drop easier?

  • @wim said:

    That is simply is not true!

    Why so negative? Files app is nearly almost not a whole lot worse than Windows 98 file explorer. What exactly are you expecting after only 25 years? 🙄

    Well, in fairness iPhone sort of almost managed proper screen widgets a mere 13 years after Android, and that may have raised the expectations of some.

  • @Gavinski said:
    It doesn't make drag and drop easier really... But drag and drop is generally superior to loading from within an app itself. Why? Because the files app does not remember your last location. So if you open files from within an app and scroll to, say, a samples folder somewhere in audioshare, and load a file from it, then if you want to load another file, you will have to navigate to the relevant folder all over again. It's ludicrously stupid. So by using drag and drop you can just keep that folder open in slideover, knock it offscreen when not using swipe to bring it back in, and it will still be at the last location you left it at, the last folder or whatever. Much better. And if you keep the slideover app on the left of the screen, you won't accidentally trigger 'delete' when trying to drag, as often happens when trying to drag from the right side

    The best is to split your screen in 2 windows (3 dots at top of the iPad screen)

  • @HotStrange said:

    That alone is super useful. What’s the other benefit? It makes drag n drop easier?

    You can create kits in it with samples you have in folders and play them via pads, you can concatenate samples and create sample chains, you can batch rename, you can do quite a few tricks.

  • @alecsbuga said:

    You can create kits in it with samples you have in folders and play them via pads, you can concatenate samples and create sample chains, you can batch rename, you can do quite a few tricks.

    Samples chain can you explain more or do a seal screen videos recording to explain ? I miss that point learning sample crate.

  • @BerlinFx said:

    Samples chain can you explain more or do a seal screen videos recording to explain ? I miss that point learning sample crate.

    If I'm not mistaken it merges all selected samples into one file for slicing and dicing...
    ...so when you load a sample-chain into for example Quick Sampler it's already 'sliced' ready for drum-kit creation.

  • @Samu said:

    If I'm not mistaken it merges all selected samples into one file for slicing and dicing...
    ...so when you load a sample-chain into for example Quick Sampler it's already 'sliced' ready for drum-kit creation.

    It can be too , we need confirmation from @alecsbuga

  • @ervin said:

    Well, in fairness iPhone sort of almost managed proper screen widgets a mere 13 years after Android, and that may have raised the expectations of some.

    Remember what Android looked like before Google ripped off the iPhone’s look and feel?

    https://bgr.com/tech/iphone-vs-android-original-google-blackberry-like-prototype-on-ebay/

  • @klownshed said:

    With no tracks selected, select the quantisation settings you want as default in the inspector.

    Any regions you create after that will use those settings.

    The parameter inspector is key to getting the most out of Logic.

    It’s all non-destructive.

    With it you can quantise, transpose, delay (very useful for granular control over the feel of day a snare), gate (you can non destructively alter the length of notes), velocity, looping, muting.

    And with an audio region selected you can change the gain, fade in/out, reverse, quantise audio etc.

    I don’t see how to have no tracks selected to set quantize default options?

  • @Janosax said:

    I don’t see how to have no tracks selected to set quantize default options?

    Maybe try scrolling down a bit...

  • edited May 2023

    @Samu said:

    Maybe try scrolling down a bit...

    Nothing

  • @Janosax said:

    Nothing

    Select 'Region Defaults' in the menu that says 'Piste' (Don't know what Region Defaults is in French).

  • edited May 2023

    …> @Samu said:

    Select 'Region Defaults' in the menu that says 'Piste' (Don't know what Region Defaults is in French).

    All I have here is midi motif and drummer

  • edited May 2023

    @Janosax said:
    …> @Samu said:

    All I have here is midi motif and drummer

    Up here...

  • @NeuM said:

    Excuse me, but I was not being sarcastic or joking. It appears you misinterpreted my reply.

    My apologies

  • @alecsbuga said:

    You can create kits in it with samples you have in folders and play them via pads, you can concatenate samples and create sample chains, you can batch rename, you can do quite a few tricks.

    I clearly haven't explored enough... Was already happy with the intuitive features! Time to rtfm!

  • @Janosax said:

    I don’t see how to have no tracks selected to set quantize default options?

    Yeah sorry I was thinking of the Mac. You need to do what @samu said and select “Region Defaults” in the menu at the top of the parameter info panel.

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