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ButterSynth Is Released!

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  • SamuSamu

    @tja said:
    I tried my first steps in ButterSynth ...

    And as it seems, it does not feature a hard-sync between oscillators?
    Or am I just too blind?

    In this case, I would be disappointed - as I used this as an important selection-criterium for Synths.

    Hard sync is handled as an effect for the wavetable oscillators, just like in most wavetable based synths.

  • dendydendy
    edited May 2023

    @tja said:
    I tried my first steps in ButterSynth ...

    And as it seems, it does not feature a hard-sync between oscillators?
    Or am I just too blind?

    In this case, I would be disappointed - as I used this as an important selection-criterium for Synths.

    Ir’s uses method used for example in Novation Ultranova - every WT can be hard synced to itself.. in “phase mod” dropdown there is “H-Sync” option .. Exactly same effext you just save one oscillator for other stuff :-)

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  • dendydendy

    @tk32 here you have scriticism to your work 🤣

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  • SamuSamu

    @tja said:

    @dendy said:
    @tk32 here you have scriticism to your work 🤣

    Sorry 😅

    But who could guess the difference between Sync, H-Sync and W-Sync without further knowledge?
    Or what "BIT" could mean?

    One short word about each menu point would help immensely 🤗

    Even without knowing I would guess BIT(Reduction).

  • dendydendy

    @Samu said:

    @tja said:

    @dendy said:
    @tk32 here you have scriticism to your work 🤣

    Sorry 😅

    But who could guess the difference between Sync, H-Sync and W-Sync without further knowledge?
    Or what "BIT" could mean?

    One short word about each menu point would help immensely 🤗

    Even without knowing I would guess BIT(Reduction).

    correct sir…

    we thougt it is enought self-explanatory when you see in waveform window what is happening with wave but yeah, i agree that at least few words in manual would be nice ..

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  • dendydendy

    Adding the menu entries to the manual would be quite natural, don't you think?

    yeah, agree…

  • tk32tk32

    Thanks everyone for pointing out a few areas where the ButterSynth manual could be improved.

    I'll let you all know once the next version goes live.

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  • attakkattakk

    Any updates on how the iPhone version is coming along? 😊

  • Doc_TDoc_T

    Great synth! A bit unstable when used as AUv3. And I would love to have stars or hearts to mark favourite sounds and that it starts up with the last sound selected.

  • espiegel123espiegel123

    @Doc_T said:
    Great synth! A bit unstable when used as AUv3. And I would love to have stars or hearts to mark favourite sounds and that it starts up with the last sound selected.

    Under what conditions is it unstable for you?

  • dendydendy
    edited May 2023

    current beta is already MUCH more stable .. yestarday had 10 instances on iPad Air M1, playing quite busy chords, plus few automated parameters for 15 minutes - no memory warnings, no crashes

  • sigma79sigma79

    @dendy said:
    current beta is already MUCH more stable .. yestarday had 10 instances on iPad Air M1, playing quite busy chords, plus few automated parameters for 15 minutes - no memory warnings, no crashes

    How many instances do you think for ipad 9?

    Did you use Cubasis?

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  • sigma79sigma79

    @tja said:

    @sigma79 said:

    @dendy said:
    current beta is already MUCH more stable .. yestarday had 10 instances on iPad Air M1, playing quite busy chords, plus few automated parameters for 15 minutes - no memory warnings, no crashes

    How many instances do you think for ipad 9?

    Did you use Cubasis?

    You are talking to "dendy" ...

    There is no question that he was using NanoStudio 2!

    Cool.

    Thanks tja.

  • dendydendy
    edited May 2023

    @tja said:

    @sigma79 said:

    @dendy said:
    current beta is already MUCH more stable .. yestarday had 10 instances on iPad Air M1, playing quite busy chords, plus few automated parameters for 15 minutes - no memory warnings, no crashes

    How many instances do you think for ipad 9?

    Did you use Cubasis?

    You are talking to "dendy" ...

    There is no question that he was using NanoStudio 2!

    No, that was serious beta testing not just "doing it for my personal pleasure" so actually it was inside Logic :-D Beta testing is sometimes nasty job :-D Installed it just for that purpose cause i know everybody now uses Logic and deleted right after that lol

  • dendydendy
    edited May 2023

    @sigma79 said:

    @dendy said:
    current beta is already MUCH more stable .. yestarday had 10 instances on iPad Air M1, playing quite busy chords, plus few automated parameters for 15 minutes - no memory warnings, no crashes

    How many instances do you think for ipad 9?

    This is actually STRONGLY depending on multiple factors - patch complexity - number of modulations, number of FX's slots active, global settings like oversampling on oscillators enabled, number of voices played

    CPU load can be SIGNIFICANTLY different based on things above .. even individual patches can go from 5% to 25% of CPU load .. Butter is monster synth, it can go VERY complex so it's tricky to make some CPU needs estimations per device ..

    Anyway - with oversampling turned off (which is default state after you install plugin) and not much complex patch, on my iPhone XS MAX (it has Bionic A12 cpu) i would say 5 instances for not too complicated patches is safe number , at least in my experience (yes, this time tried in NS2 :-)). You can push more, but risk of memory waring then rises.

  • sigma79sigma79

    @dendy said:

    @sigma79 said:

    @dendy said:
    current beta is already MUCH more stable .. yestarday had 10 instances on iPad Air M1, playing quite busy chords, plus few automated parameters for 15 minutes - no memory warnings, no crashes

    How many instances do you think for ipad 9?

    This is actually STRONGLY depending on multiple factors - patch complexity - number of modulations, number of FX's slots active, global settings like oversampling on oscillators enabled, number of voices played

    CPU load can be SIGNIFICANTLY different based on things above .. even individual patches can go from 5% to 25% of CPU load .. Butter is monster synth, it can go VERY complex so it's tricky to make some CPU needs estimations per device ..

    Anyway - with oversampling turned off (which is default state after you install plugin) and not much complex patch, on my iPhone XS MAX (it has Bionic A12 cpu) i would say 5 instances for not too complicated patches is safe number , at least in my experience (yes, this time tried in NS2 :-)). You can push more, but risk of memory waring then rises.

    Cool. synth should be better.

    Thanks dendy.

  • Nathi94Nathi94

    On my iPad 8 iPadOS 16.5 I can run a few Buttersynths most of the time without crashes in Aum, Cubasis, Drambo, Loopy Pro, NS2.

    In NS2 I tested it with 5x Buttersynth(2x Oversampling on) and some NS2 Instruments and the CPU was around 30-40%.

    Only in Logic Pro Buttersynth crashes for me often. No matter if Oversampling in BS is activated or not. On instance runs fine but if a lot in Logic Pro is going on, that one BS crashes too. So for me in Logic Pro i have to bounce BS to audio.

  • Slam_CutSlam_Cut

    @tja said:
    You are talking to "dendy" ...
    There is no question that he was using NanoStudio 2!

    😂🤣😂😅

    @Nathi94 said:
    In NS2 I tested it with 5x Buttersynth(2x Oversampling on) and some NS2 Instruments and the CPU was around 30-40%.

    Only in Logic Pro Buttersynth crashes for me often. No matter if Oversampling in BS is activated or not. One instance runs fine but if a lot in Logic Pro is going on, that one BS crashes too. So for me in Logic Pro I have to bounce BS to audio.

    Logic Pro may be all the rage, but there are still advantages to using simple apps with efficient coding. Or… letting an Apple salesperson sell us an upgrade to our hardware (their evil plan).

  • DenzkpsDenzkps

    Tempo doesn’t change in Logic Pro it’s often 120bpm

  • dendydendy

    @Denzkps said:
    Tempo doesn’t change in Logic Pro it’s often 120bpm

    just tried it, created new project, added butter, enabled arpeggiator - changing tempo of host, arpeggiator perfectly follows tempo set in logic and also tempo value shown on first butter page in bottom right part is same like logic tempo..

  • DenzkpsDenzkps

    @dendy said:

    @Denzkps said:
    Tempo doesn’t change in Logic Pro it’s often 120bpm

    just tried it, created new project, added butter, enabled arpeggiator - changing tempo of host, arpeggiator perfectly follows tempo set in logic and also tempo value shown on first butter page in bottom right part is same like logic tempo..

    Yes, it works after changing tempo in project. Thx!

  • dendydendy
    edited May 2023

    @Denzkps said:

    @dendy said:

    @Denzkps said:
    Tempo doesn’t change in Logic Pro it’s often 120bpm

    just tried it, created new project, added butter, enabled arpeggiator - changing tempo of host, arpeggiator perfectly follows tempo set in logic and also tempo value shown on first butter page in bottom right part is same like logic tempo..

    Yes, it works after changing tempo in project. Thx!

    ok so if i good understand if project has other than 120, after loading butter shows 120
    and only when project tempo changes butter adjusts it’s tempo

    will report to dev

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