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Song Of The Month Club - June 2024

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  • @BillS said:

    @jo92346 said:
    Here is my contribution for the month before I go listen to what you guys made.
    Just finished this draft:

    Firstly, I wish I knew how to make videos like this - excellent. Musically, it’s a lovely arrangement and in particular I thought the drums were very effective. The piece evolves of course, but I was looking for the main melodic theme to develop and change a little earlier in the first (slower) part if I am honest. Good work!

    Thank @BillS. I feel you with the theme. I wanted to evolve sooner but was caught in the state of mind where you keep listening to yourself and can’t change anything. That is why it is a draft.
    The videos are the easiest thing: some of my photos, some of midjourney, all mixed, expended and retouched in photoshop, then assembled in iMovie all on iPad.

  • @squeals said:
    I’m thinking of revisiting this track. I got far too into it and lost all perspective. But there’s something that keeps dragging me back. I’m never happy with the drums tbh. I’m also thinking of playing the violin rather than having the midi, the pizzicato feels a bit 1D. But I might be overthinking it.
    The spoken word piece was written and performed by my friend Stephen Watt.
    If you have heard my other more house/electronica stuff you are in for a surprise

    https://on.soundcloud.com/Jpe1AigftU9dEzSR9

    The spoken word is mesmerising, love the soft Scottish accent. The (sample-based?) guitar is very nice, and the pizzicato strings feel pretty effective to me, like a rhythmic punctuation.

    I think the second half would work better if there was a little buil-up behind the guitar and violins, maybe a string section or even just some synth pads quietly building up, just something to give a bit more intensity to the music in that part of the track.

  • @jo92346 said:
    Here is my contribution for the month before I go listen to what you guys made.
    Just finished this draft:

    Pretty cool for a draft! Your stuff is always top quality, so it's hard to say something. But if I would have done this, I would have developed a bit more the part around 2:15 where everything is very quiet, just giving it a bit more space and then.. let's go again!

  • @jo92346 said:
    Here is my contribution for the month before I go listen to what you guys made.
    Just finished this draft:

    I love the dynamics provided by the drums and the harmonic changes, once again it takes you on a journey. Another great piece. 👍

  • @jo92346 said:
    Here is my contribution for the month before I go listen to what you guys made.
    Just finished this draft:

    Very good build up of tension in the melody and the chords with pitch and pace. Would work well in one of those eighties horror movies, it reminded me of Halloween 3. The drums perhaps could have built up more slowly and be diffused with reverb and slower attack as I felt they took over a bit in parts, to my ears. (tbf I do think that less is more with drums in most tracks [I like brush drums] except for EDM sort of things where more is more, so it might just be me). I liked the break at about 2 mins, that worked well. Good stuff.

  • Thank you @unlink @richardyot @deadpoetlive

    I wish I had more “control” over the drums. I’m using the AI drummer because I’m not familiar with drums, and especially writing for drums. I never really used drums before. Percussions? That I understand and can write for. Drums are bit of a mystery to me, I have no special sensibility about them, most of the music I listen to doesn’t use drums, most of the music I ever write didn’t use drums. and I started experimenting only because of the ai drummer in Logic. I have a lot to learn and figure out bu5 I’m afraid I. Too old to catch up with the drums “culture”.

  • @jo92346
    I really like the mood of this. The piano has a really nice tension to it.
    To my ears, the point to move on is with that first change around the 1:15 I think? stay there a bit and explore before possible going up again. Second time around the descent feels like it comes tumbling down very fast. Not necessarily a bad thing.
    The aftermath is a mix of chord stuff that some works for me, some doesn’t. It could maybe take more time exploring some of those changes. but that’s a me thing, at the same time there’s a chaos there that’s really speaking to the piece overall.

    I see you said you have little experience of drums and have in the past used logic. I wouldn’t know. They sound great. Maybe a little loud and a few too many in places. I don’t know if you used logic drums for this, but my experience of using logic drummer is that bellend wants to be Moon or something. Every single time I’ve used it I’m like, stop hitting all the bloody drums, all the bloody time! 🤣

    It’s a very good track with a lot of very interesting elements. Great work!

  • @yellow_eyez it is hard to explain. What I do is write down the music in my head, work on it, figure out the sounds I need, try to find the sounds closest to the music in my head, play, mix etc…
    The problem with drums is I have absolutely no drums culture, I don’t ear them in my head, can’t write them down. So I know I want drums somewhere but I have no specific idea of what they really sound like. So, during the recording phase, I just play with the AI drummer, not really understanding what I want or how to do it. I eventually settle to something that I kinda like.
    The control I need is two folds: first managing to ear the drums in my head, second finding a way to turn that into real sounds.

  • Not sure I have much time left to do that brother. Will have to learn fast.

  • @yellow_eyez @jo92346

    I also have the same issue. I’ve got a sort of indie/chamber pop band going with a friend and drums are always my issue.

    Only solution I’ve found is ripping a song I like in the same style and studying the drum sound/fills. I then try and find a usable sample to chop from sample packs. Biggest issue is a lot of this style uses brushes and it’s a wee bit harder to just chop. It’s an absolute bawache.

  • @squeals Im not really into songs or music with drums, but that is a very valid way to start. I was more inclined to watch real drummers and figure out how their limbs do “the thing” to have some clues about what is humanely doable, then, my usual way: books to learn the notation.

    @yellow_eyez sou ds actually like a great idea.

    We’re not to old for that shit!

  • @yellow_eyez thats a really good idea. I’m up for that.
    @jo92346 I think because I can’t play drums, I’m left footed and right handed, then I struggle to translate what I see drummers do. There’s lots of benefits doing it that way. You replicate what is possible, things like volume are more instinctively replicated.

    I love this format and translate regular block patterns to this. It makes it easier for me to make fill ins, to hear what they sound like in my head. As I find it easier to visualise when notes get played. I know it sounds mental, but it just does.

  • @squeals said:
    @yellow_eyez thats a really good idea. I’m up for that.
    @jo92346 I think because I can’t play drums, I’m left footed and right handed, then I struggle to translate what I see drummers do. There’s lots of benefits doing it that way. You replicate what is possible, things like volume are more instinctively replicated.

    I love this format and translate regular block patterns to this. It makes it easier for me to make fill ins, to hear what they sound like in my head. As I find it easier to visualise when notes get played. I know it sounds mental, but it just does.

    Wow that's brilliant...just been tapping on the table ...... totally rubbish so far but I can see it working with practice.

    3x16 step sequencer and the patterns can be easily recreated with any sounds you want. Loads of other patterns on his channel too.

    Cheers.

  • @deadpoetlive glad you like it.
    For certain music I try not to sequence, or rather I sequence but then ever so slightly move elements and change volumes a little so it’s a bit more human. I go too far the other way when I play things in live though 🤣

  • edited June 2024

    Another strong month in the SOTMC. Here’s my entry, a collaboration with the very talented @JanKun — lyrics, vocals and guitar by JanKun.

  • I’ll be back soon to comment on everybody else’s cool songs — I’ve already listened to a ton of them — just need to find time to put thoughts into words :-)

  • @klownshed said:
    Another strong month in the SOTMC. Here’s my entry, a collaboration with the very talented @JanKun — lyrics, vocals and guitar by JanKun.

    Well that’s just fantastic.

  • @klownshed said:
    Another strong month in the SOTMC. Here’s my entry, a collaboration with the very talented @JanKun — lyrics, vocals and guitar by JanKun.

    What a great structure and balance of different sounds complementing each other. Shades of Radiohead. Love the build up and the darkness.

  • @deadpoetlive said:
    Ok, so this is my first ever piece as at nearly 60 I have only recently discovered iPad music. My style is currently experimental as I don't know what I am doing yet!

    I've spent the last few months downloading lots of apps and then discovering they are not as easy to use/play well together, as they look on the sound test room! :-)

    Having fun with AUM though and have just discovered I can record a bit and then put it in file player on loop which is fun to build up layers.

    This is an unedited screen recording* of an AUM session, I discovered the little Rymdigare story afterwards, it seems to fit the music. Recording levels seem a bit low and I pressed too hard on my key step at one point....but I will discover editing later.

    *Have to find a more efficient way of recording - 1.7GB before trimming and changing to 720p in iMovie to upload to YouTube.

    There are some lovely bladerunner-esque synths which with the subtle percussion make for a spacious mellow and contemplative atmosphere. Definitely a good start to your iPad music making journey.

  • @BillS said:
    To give regular contributors to SOTM Club a break from my stumbling piano playing, here is a song written and recorded entirely on the iPad using Logic’s new session players. I did post this song as a separate post in “Creations” but it would be great to get some more feedback.

    I found that the accompaniment provided by the keyboard player helped to push my vocal melody in ways I might not have thought of - so that was a real positive. I swapped out the standard Logic Pro piano for Pianoteq. I love the way that the session player’s engine can control an AUv3, and the more or less limitless flexibility to get the session player to play something that works in the context of the song. Ultimately, you can convert session player regions to MIDI to edit on a note by note basis if required.

    Sounding good. Exactly the kind of thing that the session players were designed for I think!

    Good song, good arrangement and a nice story lyrically.

    Mix wise it sounds pretty good but to my taste maybe the vocals are a tad loud — they sound a bit like they’re sat on top of the mix rather than being part of the overall sound. I find that sending some of the instruments to a reverb buss along with the vocals can help them sound more like they’re all playing together in the same space.

  • edited June 2024

    @DavidEnglish said:
    This is a music track that I improvised on two MIDI keyboards connected to Bitwig Studio on a desktop PC. There the MIDI was routed to Jaeger for the singing voice; Solo for the flute, English horn, cello, and oboe; and Omnisphere for the other instruments.

    After bringing the audio recording into Vegas Pro, I applied the Lurssen Mastering Console plug-in to the audio mix.

    It's titled River Oaks.

    Love the cellos on this one. The orchestral instruments sit nicely with the choir and subtle synth atmospheres. Your SOTMC entries are always consistently high quality.

  • @squeals said:

    @klownshed said:
    Another strong month in the SOTMC. Here’s my entry, a collaboration with the very talented @JanKun — lyrics, vocals and guitar by JanKun.

    Well that’s just fantastic.

    Thank you, that’s made my day! :-)

  • @klownshed said:
    Another strong month in the SOTMC. Here’s my entry, a collaboration with the very talented @JanKun — lyrics, vocals and guitar by JanKun.

    Wow, impactful and somewhat grim! Very skilfully composed and performed but I’d need to be in a certain mood to ‘enjoy’ it if I’m honest - total respect though, it’s very well done.

  • @klownshed said:
    Another strong month in the SOTMC. Here’s my entry, a collaboration with the very talented @JanKun — lyrics, vocals and guitar by JanKun.

    An amazing track, I love the creeping keys that create the softly menacing vibe, and Jankun's Thom Yorke-esque vocal inflections are a perfect complement to the music. The vocal performance is outstanding and the whole thing is a masterpience of edgy experimental songwriting.

  • @cuscolima said:
    My entry for this month

    I like the song, the instrumentation is cool and I like the sound choices especially the synth bass. The AI vocals are a bit uncanny valley for my taste though. If the vocals are going to be fake I’d prefer them more obviously fake, sorry. That’s probably an outdated viewpoint though. Ai vocals aren’t going away.

  • @yellow_eyez said:
    Please excuse the delay but I was very late sending the stems over to my good friend @richardyot who collaborated with me on this awesome track he titled “Busted Blues.

    I’ll spare the details for now, unless someone wants to know anything please just ask.

    Needless to say, its always inspiring to work with a musician of Richard’s caliber and technical mastery at production, and I am very grateful to him for getting yet another banger on the books in our little SOTMC.

    This is dedicated to all the good fathers out there: happy Father’s Day

    Very cool. The drums and bass give this a cool groove and the arpeggiated guitar give a cool hook and vibe which work well with the synth hook which is slightly off kilter (in a good way). The production is nicely done and keep things moving along.

    A successful collaboration :-)

  • @squeals said:
    I’m thinking of revisiting this track. I got far too into it and lost all perspective. But there’s something that keeps dragging me back. I’m never happy with the drums tbh. I’m also thinking of playing the violin rather than having the midi, the pizzicato feels a bit 1D. But I might be overthinking it.
    The spoken word piece was written and performed by my friend Stephen Watt.
    If you have heard my other more house/electronica stuff you are in for a surprise

    https://on.soundcloud.com/Jpe1AigftU9dEzSR9

    The spoken word bit is definitely cool. Gotta love anything that mentions Hong Kong Phooey!

    The second bit is cool but I feel the drums need to groove more to underpin the rhythms from the instrumentation — it’s slightly plodding in feel. Something like a sampled drum loop topper would do wonders to add some groove.

    The last bit is nice too but I’d want to work on the ending a bit — it feels like it stops rather than coming to an end if that makes sense?

    The spoken word bit is really good.

  • @jo92346 said:
    Here is my contribution for the month before I go listen to what you guys made.
    Just finished this draft:

    Lots of interesting stuff going on, the arrangement takes you through a journey for sure. I like the edgy synths that come in in the second half of the tune. The changes in tempo break up the tune nicely too.

  • edited June 2024

    @richardyot said:
    My entry for the month, a mashup of ambient, indie, and post-rock created in collaboration with the genius that is @JanKun - lyrics in the spoiler:

    Small steps, one by one
    Until my walk turns to a run
    If you were
    Here with me
    In this dream that feels so real

    I can see the setting sun
    Through the clouds the colours run
    The cool breeze says
    That night has come
    Nocturnal voices sing their song

    You fall, keep falling
    I call, keep calling

    Cold sweat, I'm overcome
    My heart beat is beating like a drum
    Lost here
    On my own
    In this dream I turn to stone

    I can see the setting sun
    Through the clouds the colours run
    The cool breeze says
    That night has come
    Nocturnal voices sing their song

    You fall, keep falling
    I call, keep calling

    Not in a very good position to comment on this one. But all I can say is, thank you @richardyot for letting me add a few things on your beautiful track. It was a lot of fun and as usual a great pleasure.
    It is nice to see the SOTMC so active lately!

  • @deadpoetlive said:
    Ok, so this is my first ever piece as at nearly 60 I have only recently discovered iPad music. My style is currently experimental as I don't know what I am doing yet!

    I've spent the last few months downloading lots of apps and then discovering they are not as easy to use/play well together, as they look on the sound test room! :-)

    Having fun with AUM though and have just discovered I can record a bit and then put it in file player on loop which is fun to build up layers.

    This is an unedited screen recording* of an AUM session, I discovered the little Rymdigare story afterwards, it seems to fit the music. Recording levels seem a bit low and I pressed too hard on my key step at one point....but I will discover editing later.

    *Have to find a more efficient way of recording - 1.7GB before trimming and changing to 720p in iMovie to upload to YouTube.

    It is a great track for a start! You sound like someone who knows pretty well what is doing!
    The track seems to constantly evolve until the beautiful synth final. I'd just say that the fade out leading to the final was slightly abrupt apart from that, it's a great piece. I think your track fits very well with @DavidEnglish ambient work !

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