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Jim Audio Groove Rider 2 - RELEASED

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  • Blipsford_BaubieBlipsford_Baubie

    @cokomairena said:

    @Blipsford_Baubie said:

    @Overreach said:

    @wim said:
    On My / Groove Rider 2 / Samples / Export> @Overreach said:

    When you create a sample from a Part or Master and press SAVE…where is that sample saved?

    That button only saves it in the Sampler. Press Share to save it to files or do other things with it.

    Yet it’s not available to Load in another project? You have to then copy the file into the Samples folder yourself. I understood Share for bouncing, that’s fine, but not saving to a Samples folder for possible recall in another project makes no sense to me.

    Have you tried saving the Layer or Part as a preset? I think that might allow you to recall in another project without saving to your Samples folder first. I haven’t tried it myself yet.

    yeah that works, the sad part is that you can't share those presets

    What do you mean? As in share with each other?

  • OverreachOverreach

    @Blipsford_Baubie said:

    @Overreach said:

    @wim said:
    On My / Groove Rider 2 / Samples / Export> @Overreach said:

    When you create a sample from a Part or Master and press SAVE…where is that sample saved?

    That button only saves it in the Sampler. Press Share to save it to files or do other things with it.

    Yet it’s not available to Load in another project? You have to then copy the file into the Samples folder yourself. I understood Share for bouncing, that’s fine, but not saving to a Samples folder for possible recall in another project makes no sense to me.

    Have you tried saving the Layer or Part as a preset? I think that might allow you to recall in another project without saving to your Samples folder first. I haven’t tried it myself yet.

    I haven’t but that’s a good idea and @cokomairena says it works

  • OverreachOverreach

    @cokomairena said:
    .> @Overreach said:

    When you create a sample from a Part or Master and press SAVE…where is that sample saved?

    on the project

    Kinda feels like that should be automatic for the sampler and saved to the project with the main Save button, but lots of quirky decisions in this app.

  • OverreachOverreach

    @cokomairena said:

    @Blipsford_Baubie said:

    @Overreach said:

    @wim said:
    On My / Groove Rider 2 / Samples / Export> @Overreach said:

    When you create a sample from a Part or Master and press SAVE…where is that sample saved?

    That button only saves it in the Sampler. Press Share to save it to files or do other things with it.

    Yet it’s not available to Load in another project? You have to then copy the file into the Samples folder yourself. I understood Share for bouncing, that’s fine, but not saving to a Samples folder for possible recall in another project makes no sense to me.

    Have you tried saving the Layer or Part as a preset? I think that might allow you to recall in another project without saving to your Samples folder first. I haven’t tried it myself yet.

    yeah that works, the sad part is that you can't share those presets

    Another baffling decision.

  • cokomairenacokomairena

    @Blipsford_Baubie said:

    @cokomairena said:

    @Blipsford_Baubie said:

    @Overreach said:

    @wim said:
    On My / Groove Rider 2 / Samples / Export> @Overreach said:

    When you create a sample from a Part or Master and press SAVE…where is that sample saved?

    That button only saves it in the Sampler. Press Share to save it to files or do other things with it.

    Yet it’s not available to Load in another project? You have to then copy the file into the Samples folder yourself. I understood Share for bouncing, that’s fine, but not saving to a Samples folder for possible recall in another project makes no sense to me.

    Have you tried saving the Layer or Part as a preset? I think that might allow you to recall in another project without saving to your Samples folder first. I haven’t tried it myself yet.

    yeah that works, the sad part is that you can't share those presets

    What do you mean? As in share with each other?

    if you make a preset of something, like a layer or synth, there is no way to export and share those presets.

  • wimwim

    @cokomairena said:
    if you make a preset of something, like a layer or synth, there is no way to export and share those presets.

    By "share" I assume you mean, share to other devices or to other people?
    Because, you can share presets between patterns on the same device.

    If so, that's probably just not a feature implemented as of yet. I'd fully expect that to come at some time, especially if anyone takes the time to email the developer to ask for it.

  • cokomairenacokomairena

    @wim said:

    @cokomairena said:
    if you make a preset of something, like a layer or synth, there is no way to export and share those presets.

    By "share" I assume you mean, share to other devices or to other people?
    Because, you can share presets between patterns on the same device.

    If so, that's probably just not a feature implemented as of yet. I'd fully expect that to come at some time, especially if anyone takes the time to email the developer to ask for it.

    With sharing I mean saving those presets to a file to keep, or use in another device, or pass to other people

  • oscillotusoscillotus

    @yellow_eyez said:
    Hmm would you get the mk2 for $50 or mk3 for &$150?

    Say what? The mk3 is at 300$ used where I'm at...

  • oscillotusoscillotus

    @yellow_eyez said:
    Local guy - doesn’t know how to use it apparently

    I just realized there is the pro and non-pro version with a big price difference 🙈 Also a mini model.

  • chaocratorchaocrator
    edited March 2025

    @yellow_eyez said:
    What
    Wait a second

    Are you telling me there’s a MIDI controller made to work perfectly integrated with gr2

    Which exactly is it?

    yep – but at the moment such integration exists only for LP Pro Mk3, that's why i ordered it.
    other Launchpads are not supported yet.

  • chaocratorchaocrator

    @yellow_eyez said:
    I really am on the fence now. I mean on one hand GR2 is my favorite groovebox, and I use it almost everyday and make more music on it than anything else besides my op1. I wouldn’t mind having something like a perfectly synchronized controller because if Jim did that that means it really works well. It’s just , is $150 worth spending for a controller for a groovebox - I looked all over for features supported but I can’t find any literature on it.? I mean that’s something I’ll have to decide but would you get it for $150?

    well, it's up to you and depends on your priorities.
    TBH i ordered my new shiny LP Pro Mk3 mainly for using with GR2 – because tactile controls make the workflow significantly faster and more eye-friendly.
    not that i really have lots of free money – but for me money is lesser issue than spare time that i must manage meticulously.

    also, LP Pro Mk3 is a full-blown 4-track sequencer that is nice to have in hardware-only setups – so for me it's definitely worth it.

  • FastGhostFastGhost

    Am I going mad or is there no reverb in the insert fx? 7 phasers and no reverb seems an odd choice.

  • wimwim
    edited March 2025

    @FastGhost said:
    Am I going mad or is there no reverb in the insert fx? 7 phasers and no reverb seems an odd choice.

    Nope, you're not going mad. Yes, it's an odd choice.

  • FastGhostFastGhost

    Curious isn’t it as the verbs in Pure Acid and Poison are both excellent.

  • wimwim
    edited March 2025

    @FastGhost said:
    Curious isn’t it as the verbs in Pure Acid and Poison are both excellent.

    It has reverbs available on the sends and the master. I guess Jim feels that's the right way to do it.

    I don't like it, but it hasn't affected me as much as I figured it would once I accepted it.

  • Blipsford_BaubieBlipsford_Baubie
    edited March 2025

    @FastGhost said:
    Am I going mad or is there no reverb in the insert fx? 7 phasers and no reverb seems an odd choice.

    Correctum! (On both to going mad and the lack of verb on insert)

  • auxmuxauxmux

    We need to ask Jim to add. It's one major limitation here, everything else was well done from the start.

  • RajahPRajahP

    Updated…

  • wimwim
    edited March 2025

    Nice! A couple of the complaints discussed recently here put to rest, plus a lot of other nice goodies:
    Big thanks Jim Pavlov! If you’re lurking out there. 😉

    • Midi Output / Virtual Midi Output ports added (disabled by default);
    • Midi Channel parameter added for each Part, accessible from the Part Parameters page. It is used during the Midi Input and Midi Output;
    • added Relative Midi knobs support;
    • added Last Touched Knob Control feature, which allows you to control knobs with a single assigned midi CC: you first touch the desired knob on the screen and then turn your midi controller knob to tweak it. This feature is off by default and needs to be activated from Settings -> Midi -> Midi CC Control menu -> Last Knob Control;
    • Ableton Link updated to support Start/Stop feature (disabled by default);
    • Settings Page: various synchronization settings were moved into a separate SYNC menu;
    • added sample recording Sync function, which allows you to snap start/stop of the audio recording to the beat or bar, allowing to record perfect loops on the fly. It is off by default and is located in the Settings -> Sync -> Sample Editor -> Record Sync;
    • new mixer-related knobs design for better clarity;
    • oscillogram visualizer: added plus / minus buttons to change wave zoom factor;
    • added LUFS level indicator on the main page;
    • added song time indicator for the Song mode in the top title bar;
    • added new "Save Pattern" shortcut button, which is now accessible on any screen from the top title bar (the "disc" icon); its brightness depends on how many unsaved changes you have made to the pattern;
    • added a "song loop on" indicator icon in the top title bar when in the Song mode;
    • pattern's AUv3 mark in the title bar is moved to the left side of the bar under the CPU meter;
    • Undo while recording (Song mode): now tapping Undo will not stop the record;
    • global Metronome setting is split into 2 new separate independent settings: Click (Off, REC, Always On) and Rec Precount (Off, 1 Bar, 2 Bars);
    • fixed: built-in synths were not reacting to midi pitch bend events, generated by Midi FX units;
    • several fixes in the Sample Editor, when selection/slice locators were sometimes reset during undo, edit or record;
    • other minor bug fixes.
  • cyberheatercyberheater

    MIDI out is going to be a big deal for some folks. Amazing.

  • wimwim

    The sampler sync to transport is great. That’s going to be a huge timesaver for me.

  • catherdercatherder

    @cyberheater said:
    MIDI out is going to be a big deal for some folks. Amazing.

    It is. I hadn’t used GR-2 for a while. This will change now. A great update that brings tons of useful features. Thanks Jim!

  • chaocratorchaocrator

    @cyberheater said:
    MIDI out is going to be a big deal for some folks. Amazing.

    yeah – now i can sequence external gear with GR2.

  • catherdercatherder

    @chaocrator said:

    @cyberheater said:
    MIDI out is going to be a big deal for some folks. Amazing.

    yeah – now i can sequence external gear with GR2.

    and the nice thing is that when you throw in a MIDI FX layer, it will be put before the output. So you can now use your favourite MIDI plugins with external gear.

  • Edward_AlexanderEdward_Alexander

    @wim said:
    The sampler sync to transport is great. That’s going to be a huge timesaver for me.

    Samesees

  • jklovemusicjklovemusic

    This is a huge update. Thanks Jim

    If Jim can pull MPE off, it will be the end game. The first non-DAW platform that offers most DAW features designed for native iPad touch. It will be the winner take most app.

    Loopy Pro is still the king for live performing, be it looping or controlling. But most people don’t or simply cannot perform in real time.

  • chaocratorchaocrator

    @catherder said:

    @chaocrator said:

    @cyberheater said:
    MIDI out is going to be a big deal for some folks. Amazing.

    yeah – now i can sequence external gear with GR2.

    and the nice thing is that when you throw in a MIDI FX layer, it will be put before the output. So you can now use your favourite MIDI plugins with external gear.

    exactly.
    finally i'll be able to stick with MidiStep on all my devices except for a Linux laptop (but the latter has another cool step sequencer).

  • catherdercatherder

    @chaocrator said:

    @catherder said:

    @chaocrator said:

    @cyberheater said:
    MIDI out is going to be a big deal for some folks. Amazing.

    yeah – now i can sequence external gear with GR2.

    and the nice thing is that when you throw in a MIDI FX layer, it will be put before the output. So you can now use your favourite MIDI plugins with external gear.

    exactly.
    finally i'll be able to stick with MidiStep on all my devices except for a Linux laptop (but the latter has another cool step sequencer).

    OT question: What is that "cool step sequencer" your are using on Linux ?

  • JumpercollinsJumpercollins
    edited March 2025

    Be cool to support this!

  • chaocratorchaocrator

    @catherder said:
    OT question: What is that "cool step sequencer" your are using on Linux ?

    B-Step.
    old but gold.
    i got it back in the days when it was paid, and btw it supports mk2 line of Launchpads.

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