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Don't hate me, but synthwave is so comically simple that if you spend a little time learning how to actually make your own sounds on a synth, you won't need packs.
And you can learn what you need to within a day.
I guess in theory you could write a utility that could do the conversion. Not sure they would sound the same.
definitely would ‘t - actually i think they would sound pretty different, both synths behave very differently when it comes to filter and envelopes …
Perhaps you need to look beyond the typical. Synthwave is a very wide umbrella that encompass very interesting music beyond the stereo typical tic toc loop.
Thank you! Seriously, I’m loving this Synth! I love how you can use the randomizer on only specific parts by locking and unlocking sections! Totally have created some amazing presets! Can’t wait to create a whole pack and record a vid!
The randomization system is totally amazing!
I ran a side-by-side comparison in Logic Pro against TAL-U-NO-LX and while this is a good synth, I still give the edge to TAL. I didn’t really care for the FX in JUNE, so there was no advantage in their addition for me.
But anyone who prefers JUNE, that’s a perfectly valid opinion and I applaud the developer for their entry in the synth plugin category.
It’s not their first one! 🙂
Lol
… love minibit 😉
I'm more than aware of what synthwave encompasses - I've released multiple synthwave songs already, love the genre, some of my favourite acts are synthwave or synth wave-adjacent.
But. I still know that you only need to learn a small amount of synth info to go a long way.
Dude should just learn the basics and expand - there isn't much more satisfying in the music-making world than to create synth sounds from scratch, that you love and write music with and eventually release. For me, anyway.
Just learning to create a simple bass and a pad will take you further than you need to go - because with those, you can easily shift to plucks, lead lines, keys sounds etc no drama and if your synth of choice has noise sounds etc then you can also get into making kicks, snares and hats and voila, your whole career's worth of synth sounds is right there.
People in the music making community in general get way too hung up on the newest synths and waste so much money when the reality is, you can do pretty much everything with a basic synth.
You don't even need to get into modulation or movement in your sounds, with the synth itself, if you've got fx or whatnot ready to roll - ie RC-20 or even just using something like automating a filter (that doesn't need to be in the synth you use) for some movement.
Looking at June - I see noise, sub, relevant filters, a/d/s/r, LFO, all the standard shapes (pwm, saw, sine, triangle) and uh, done.
That's more than enough to create:
Obviously, you CAN get more complex if you want - but the most highly influential stuff in synthwave is the most basic, outside of a very small handful of acts - the music that actually inspired the genre and pushed it forward into being a little more mainstream, was extremely basic/simple. Think Kavinsky, Miami Nights 1984, early The Midnight, Timecop1983.. could even go earlier than that and look at their influences (Tangerine Dream, John Carpenter etc you get the picture) and it's stuff anyone could reasonably replicate with 1x basic synth, like June.
There isn't much need for presets with simple synths like June, if you would just spend like, an hour or so learning what everything does.
Not saying nobody needs/wants presets, just saying, the dude would be extremely well served by learning how to use a synth, rather than relying on presets.
Because a synth like June doesn't really require them, it's not a complex synth - that's the appeal of the Juno series imo.
Liked it enough that I got the desktop version while it’s on 45% sale. Nice sound, nice presets, nice effects. For some reason I find it easier with June to find sweet spots that sit in a mix than with TAL.
Ah, the ol double dip! One of the best compliments you can give an app: so nice ya need it twice! 😀
If you buy this one then you also get it on Mac too, correct?
You can always check that info on the AppStore description for an app. The iOS version of June doesn't run on Mac though, no, that would cannibalise the more profitable desktop plugin's sales.
Everyone is comparing this to tal on ios. Any one compared it on desktop to the roland cloud juno?
I don't have that, but I have Arturia Jun-6V so I plan to do a bit of a-b testing there. I figured June would be worth it if I can do sound design on iOS and use the preset on Mac, otherwise I assume the Arturia plugin is probably pretty good
I know the basics of dialing sounds but when I write I don’t like to dial sounds, it get me out of the flow. But I could browse presets for 15 minutes and not be taken out of the flow.
You say you know Synthwave but you give the most obvious exemple one can give. No wonder you think it’s all very easy to dial.
I'm genuinely interested to dig in deeper in Synthwave, mind sharing some of your gems? Maybe some complexer stuff?
Whether you like it or not, the reality is synthwave is a pretty simple genre, and the elements I listed are all you need to get moving.
Why not just split your time a bit, spend some time creating sounds you like, and have that time as separate to the songwriting time?
Then you can flick through your own "presets" and stay in the "flow".
Absolutely!
Deadlife
Hotel pools
We are magnoia
You probably already know Carpenter Brut
And Gunship but covering the basses. And the videos are so cool.
Rad sounds man! Which synths did you use for making these? Or is every track different? Rephrase: are these Juno emulations the best choice for synthwave or are there other bangers that excel more at that genre?
(Also new to synthwave but it kinda reminds me of Hotline Miami haha)
Edit: my bad, sometimes it hides the vids here when “Quoting” sometimes it doesn’t…
These are not my songs. I wish they were. lol
I know Gunship uses all hardware synths and most of them Sequencial.
Is Juno the best ? Depends on what type of Synthwave you want to create.
This is my music
@ecou
Oh, my bad! Your jam sounds rad too tho Haha.
Tbh I’m kinda new to synths as a whole. Well, I know that Pink Floyd liked moogs, radiohead liked prophets, and now synthwave likes Juno’s. That’s bout it tho. I’ll check out more Gunship, thanks much! 🤙
Thank you!
Here’s another of mine that sounds more like @greatestlengths limited view of Synthwave.
https://on.soundcloud.com/3KK2BZI9GUbSp7Dh2q
@Squishy synthwave is based on 80s sound, think Vangelis, John Carpenter, etc. Probably the definitive synth is the Yamaha CS-80, I think Baby Audio’s BA-1 is close to it. I believe Vangelis used a Microwave 1 for Blade Runner. I would also recommend Sunrizer, it’s not an emulation but it’s in the ballpark. Sadly there’s no Prophet or ARP 2600 for iPad. The Nord was big, not sure if there’s a true emulation. AudioKit’s NERD synth is a hybrid synth/rompler I think.
I do agree that Synthwave isn’t too complex, but that’s just keeping inside the label, some of those tracks linked above could be called Chillwave, or Dark Synth, or something else. “Pure” synthwave is not super broad IMO.
Yo thanks for the info! I don’t own any of those but I’ll keep them on the AppRaven list. Also a much broader understanding of the genre now, blade runner/carpenter clicks for sure. Would Robs AnalogyGR count? I have that one! I’m sure I could also watch some demos of the mentioned synths and try to recreate the sounds in SynthMaster or Obsidian or the other ones mentioned in that recent “best all around synth” thread.
Edit: checked out microwave and ba-1. Thinking GR is prolly not the best choice. More like ANALOGyXS or X1
Yes you are right they are Chillwave and Dark Synth. Both styles are sub genre of Synthwave.
Chillwave is not a subgenre of Synthwave, they were created simultaneously and are pretty distinct. I would never describe Neon Indian or Washed Out or Memory Tapes as Synthwave, heck, some of them barely use synthesizers 😆. But that’s getting pretty off topic, no need to pursue a debate on the subject.
@Squishy Giorgio Moroder is another big influence. That Italo Giallo soundtrack sound. Or check out the soundtrack for To Live and Die in LA. You take that raw sound, slow it down, add some reverb and woozy tape effects and you’ve got Synthwave.
Excuse a total novice on synths, their history whatnot but isn't Korg Odyssey = ARP 2600, or a stripped version of it at least. Maybe I got that wrong?
I saw that there USED to be an iProphet on iOS too. An Arturia one at that! The things I missed out on… CHERISH the synths you have, people! ❤️