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  • @lala said:
    So back to topic guys.
    Do you want your government to have lists of people about who they worship?
    This is data that can be misused in so many ways that you simply don't want to have that data ...
    Let's ignore the fact that this is unconstitutional and governments do what they want in secrecy.

    In other words, "Back to me."

    Dude you're such an attention whore!
    And I say that with all due respect! :)

  • LOL
    I really mean btt
    I am having my narcissistic pleasures somewhere else, you may have guessed.

  • @lala said:
    LOL
    I really mean btt
    I am having my narcissistic pleasures somewhere else, you may have guessed.

    I might vote for you, who knows?

  • I wish people were half as fired up about this as they are about Trump.

  • @telecharge said:

    I wish people were half as fired up about this as they are about Trump.

    He is a part of the problem.

  • @MonzoPro said:

    @richardyot said:
    When the government runs a surplus they are making us all poorer. They are taking money out of the economy, ie from all of us.

    When the government runs a deficit, they putting more money into the economy than they take out, which means more trade, more sales, more money for you and me.

    Doesn't seem to be working that way in the UK.

    The U.K. has been running persistent deficits for the last 15 years, which is why there is some growth. Despite the rhetoric this is also why Osborne couldn't deliver a surplus, because it would have crashed the economy.

  • @knewspeak said:

    @richardyot said:
    When the government runs a surplus they are making us all poorer. They are taking money out of the economy, ie from all of us.

    When the government runs a deficit, they putting more money into the economy than they take out, which means more trade, more sales, more money for you and me.

    The government debt is not like a household debt. US government bonds are much closer to a deposit account. The safest deposit account in the world, which is why there is so much demand for it.

    When you put $100 into a savings account at the bank, the bank is technically in debt to you. Is in there a big uproar and a lot of fearmongering when banks take more deposits? No. But bank deposits are less safe than government bonds, because the government can't default, as the monopoly issuer of currency.

    People who worry about government debt don't understand economics. Fact.

    The debt will never be repaid, never recalled, it will be rolled over forever. It could could reach 200-300% of GDP with zero consequences. The Fed could buy it all and cancel it, again with zero consequences.

    Zero consequences?

    Japan has a debt-to-GDP ratio of 200% and yet bond holders are taking negative yields, which means they paying for the privilege of "lending" to the Japanese government. Doesn't seem too catastrophic to me.

  • @lala said:

    @telecharge said:

    I wish people were half as fired up about this as they are about Trump.

    He is a part of the problem.

    No, he is the result of the problem

  • What both Beathoven , firejan82 , (as well as Tritonman's funny snowflake comment) said. We come here as a respite from this political garbage on Facebook. Besides I'm the son of holocaust survivors. If you're comparing Trump to Hitler, you're cheapening the holocaust and know nothing about it. . Musicians talking about politics is akin to politicians talking about misic. Besides , Trump is a huge fan of Auria Pro and Modstep.

  • i know it can be hard to follow who says what but you are mixed up. ;)

  • @richardyot said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    @richardyot said:
    When the government runs a surplus they are making us all poorer. They are taking money out of the economy, ie from all of us.

    When the government runs a deficit, they putting more money into the economy than they take out, which means more trade, more sales, more money for you and me.

    Doesn't seem to be working that way in the UK.

    The U.K. has been running persistent deficits for the last 15 years, which is why there is some growth. Despite the rhetoric this is also why Osborne couldn't deliver a surplus, because it would have crashed the economy.

    What growth? They might be doing well in the South East of England but the rest of the UK is fucked.

  • Look at the brighter side of things, Gadget is getting audio tracks!

  • @MonzoPro said:

    @richardyot said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    @richardyot said:
    When the government runs a surplus they are making us all poorer. They are taking money out of the economy, ie from all of us.

    When the government runs a deficit, they putting more money into the economy than they take out, which means more trade, more sales, more money for you and me.

    Doesn't seem to be working that way in the UK.

    The U.K. has been running persistent deficits for the last 15 years, which is why there is some growth. Despite the rhetoric this is also why Osborne couldn't deliver a surplus, because it would have crashed the economy.

    What growth? They might be doing well in the South East of England but the rest of the UK is fucked.

    That's why they want more Mayors etc., to keep the wealthy areas, wealthy, building more walls.

  • edited January 2017

    @MonzoPro said:

    @richardyot said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    @richardyot said:
    When the government runs a surplus they are making us all poorer. They are taking money out of the economy, ie from all of us.

    When the government runs a deficit, they putting more money into the economy than they take out, which means more trade, more sales, more money for you and me.

    Doesn't seem to be working that way in the UK.

    The U.K. has been running persistent deficits for the last 15 years, which is why there is some growth. Despite the rhetoric this is also why Osborne couldn't deliver a surplus, because it would have crashed the economy.

    What growth? They might be doing well in the South East of England but the rest of the UK is fucked.

    if there would have been growth they couldn't have blamed the EU.
    It's so easy to blame the EU, it's never your own government that makes mistakes and says so.
    Hello children of the UK. You are not Europeen citizens anymore and everything imported is price up. How do you like it? ;)

  • @MonzoPro said:

    @richardyot said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    @richardyot said:
    When the government runs a surplus they are making us all poorer. They are taking money out of the economy, ie from all of us.

    When the government runs a deficit, they putting more money into the economy than they take out, which means more trade, more sales, more money for you and me.

    Doesn't seem to be working that way in the UK.

    The U.K. has been running persistent deficits for the last 15 years, which is why there is some growth. Despite the rhetoric this is also why Osborne couldn't deliver a surplus, because it would have crashed the economy.

    What growth? They might be doing well in the South East of England but the rest of the UK is fucked.

    Not denying that, there is a massive shortage of investment in large parts of the U.K. (and the US too). We need more, not less, government spending.

    In the uk Osborne was selective about austerity: austerity for the poor and deficit-inducing tax cuts for the rich. In the US the republicans have a similar attitude.

  • edited January 2017

    They also went for us vs. them and fake populism.
    U.K. Has been creeping in Americas ass for so long, that's what you get.
    Bush/Blair blah blah

  • @lala said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    @richardyot said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    @richardyot said:
    When the government runs a surplus they are making us all poorer. They are taking money out of the economy, ie from all of us.

    When the government runs a deficit, they putting more money into the economy than they take out, which means more trade, more sales, more money for you and me.

    Doesn't seem to be working that way in the UK.

    The U.K. has been running persistent deficits for the last 15 years, which is why there is some growth. Despite the rhetoric this is also why Osborne couldn't deliver a surplus, because it would have crashed the economy.

    What growth? They might be doing well in the South East of England but the rest of the UK is fucked.

    if there would have been growth they couldn't have blamed the EU.
    It's so easy to blame the EU, it's never your own government that makes mistakes and says so.
    Hello children of the UK. You are not Europeen citizens anymore and everything imported is price up. How do you like it? ;)

    Unfortunately, United we stood.....

  • It's funny to me that forum members who have been here for years are acting surprised and offended to find political discussion/arguments in a lala thread. Stop pretending. You knew what you were going to get when you clicked through.

  • edited January 2017

    bad lala o:)
    I think it's much easier to have these discussions in a dedicated thread,
    You release steam and then go back to normal, instead of the sneaky kind that others in this thread prefer. :p
    And guess what ppl behave halfway adult, yay.

  • What annoys me more than political threads is when someone tells you to stop with the politics and then does it themselves :p (this is not aimed at one particular person and most of us do it from time to time).

  • edited January 2017

    I haven't listen to this for years and years, it's so nostalgic, to bad you guys won't understand the words.

  • @Fruitbat1919 , Ha ha...guilty as charged...touche'

  • @Telstar5 said:
    @Fruitbat1919 , Ha ha...guilty as charged...touche'

    Actually I didn't know you had :p

  • edited January 2017

    @lala said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    @richardyot said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    @richardyot said:
    When the government runs a surplus they are making us all poorer. They are taking money out of the economy, ie from all of us.

    When the government runs a deficit, they putting more money into the economy than they take out, which means more trade, more sales, more money for you and me.

    Doesn't seem to be working that way in the UK.

    The U.K. has been running persistent deficits for the last 15 years, which is why there is some growth. Despite the rhetoric this is also why Osborne couldn't deliver a surplus, because it would have crashed the economy.

    What growth? They might be doing well in the South East of England but the rest of the UK is fucked.

    if there would have been growth they couldn't have blamed the EU.
    It's so easy to blame the EU, it's never your own government that makes mistakes and says so.
    Hello children of the UK. You are not Europeen citizens anymore and everything imported is price up. How do you like it? ;)

    Well actually I am European - I'm eligible for an Irish passport so theoretically I can still enjoy the free movement thing when I travel.

    I think the irony in the UK is that many of the people that voted for Brexit are going to be the one's worse off as a result. The people I know who voted for it are getting hit by the price rises, job cuts, social issues and whatnot, and the shit has yet to hit the fan. The rich buggers who voted to remain might actually be better off when we leave.

    Me? I might bugger off to Ireland and leave them to it.

  • @MonzoPro said:

    @lala said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    @richardyot said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    @richardyot said:
    When the government runs a surplus they are making us all poorer. They are taking money out of the economy, ie from all of us.

    When the government runs a deficit, they putting more money into the economy than they take out, which means more trade, more sales, more money for you and me.

    Doesn't seem to be working that way in the UK.

    The U.K. has been running persistent deficits for the last 15 years, which is why there is some growth. Despite the rhetoric this is also why Osborne couldn't deliver a surplus, because it would have crashed the economy.

    What growth? They might be doing well in the South East of England but the rest of the UK is fucked.

    if there would have been growth they couldn't have blamed the EU.
    It's so easy to blame the EU, it's never your own government that makes mistakes and says so.
    Hello children of the UK. You are not Europeen citizens anymore and everything imported is price up. How do you like it? ;)

    Well actually I am European - I'm eligible for an Irish passport so theoretically I can still enjoy the free movement thing when I travel.

    I think the irony in the UK is that many of the people that voted for Brexit are going to be the one's worse off as a result. The people I know who voted for it are getting hit by the price rises, job cuts, social issues and whatnot, and the shit has yet to hit the fan. The rich buggers who voted to remain might actually be better off when we leave.

    Me? I might bugger off to Ireland and leave them to it.

    That's the spirit, thanks for the fish, and chips, I'm off. :o

  • edited January 2017

    God I forgot how bad food in Britain is. :|
    Want some vinegar with that? No thx.

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