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  • @rs2000 said:
    @tahiche That's the way it works, if you like to reverse the slice order then use one of these to invert the velocity signal:

    Thanks!.
    But this would invert all velocity values, not just the slice order.
    To me it doesn’t make sense that the order is min/right max/left specially when it’s not coherent with the same case in the Flexi sampler.

  • @espiegel123 said:

    @sigma79 said:

    @0tolerance4silence said:

    @sigma79 said:

    @0tolerance4silence said:

    @sigma79 said:

    @0tolerance4silence said:

    @sigma79 said:
    Can anyone confirm if its possible to euclidean sequence sb drum from drambo. The notes are set in drambo per track to trigger sb drum track ( note ) but cc mappings of euclidean sequencers are cross modded. As shown in video. If you can get it to work. Please let me know.

    What do you mean by “cc mapping cross modded” ?
    I’m not sure I understand what you’re trying to achieve...
    Are you trying to sequence DrumCompumter from Drambo, while being able to tweak Drambo from a controller via CC? Is that correct?

    Hi.

    kb1 knob 1 is mapped to drambo euclidean 1. Kb1 knob 2 is mapped to drambo euclidean 2 but knob 2 ( kb1 ) affects the euclidean 1. Even though euclidean 1 knob dosent move because its not mapped to knob 2 ( kb1 ) Different cc numbers.

    Thanks.

    I don’t have KB1 or DrumComputer, but using Mozaic to send CCs, it works fine here...

    Can you maybe save/share your AUM project to check if there are routing issues?

    I can get it to work with Drambo. Not drum computer. I route midi controller or kb1 to Drambo, then Drambo to drum computer. Drum computer is a midi channel in aum. Omni with virtual midi etc in standalone settings. Drum computer is multi out so theres the usual fiter system in aum ( which dosent apply to multi out ) but multi euclidean tracks in drambo with same midi channel but different cc should work?

    Thanks.

    Sorry, I struggle to see where the issue might be from the description.
    Can you share a project with the problem?

    What do you think mate?

    Have you used a midi monitor to examine the midi stream to make sure the ccs and channels leaving Drambo are what you intend?

    No. The sequencer without any midi mapping still affects the other channel ( as posted ) but might be helpful with the midi stream of drambo. Not sure why people cant replicate. You just route drambo to sb drum computer and the knobs from a euclidean sequencer affect the other channel sequencer ( audio wise )

  • If you get kit/song switching working that would be cool. All you get from a drum screen is resonance, model resonater I think etc anyway.

  • edited April 2021

    If anyone can get it to work. I will buy you an app £5. Obviously you can negotiate. Let me know. Last post anyway on the question but the task is to euclidean sequence sb drum computer multiout, without any controls of a sequencer affecting the other.

  • @sigma79 said:
    If anyone can get it to work. I will buy you an app £5. Obviously you can negotiate. Let me know. Last post anyway on the question but the task is to euclidean sequence sb drum computer multiout, without any controls of a sequencer affecting the other.

    I don't have drum computer. But even though you are sure the issue isn't the MIDI stream, you should examine the MIDI stream to ensure it is what you think.

  • @sigma79 said:
    Dosent work even on same track, with euclidean notes to trigger zones on drum computer. This is also without midi.

    Is this what you’re trying to do?

  • @xor said:

    @sigma79 said:
    Dosent work even on same track, with euclidean notes to trigger zones on drum computer. This is also without midi.

    Is this what you’re trying to do?

    No xor. Multi out Drum computer.

    Thanks

  • Tbh I thought it wouldnt work but then thought if its just a note triggering drum cimputer zones. Then it might.

  • @0tolerance4silence said:
    Some additional info from earlier discussions for those interested:

    TR - moog model
    OTA - cem model (e.g Oberheim)

    SK - Sallen Key topology
    SK1 LPF - smoother (more like Korg 35)
    SK2 LPF - screamer (more like Steiner Parker, e.g. microbrute)
    SK HPF

    Thank you!

  • Drambo@multichannel on RME OCTAMIC XTC: 24 inputs (by MADI), only 4 outputs:(
    AUM@multichannel the same interface : 24 inputs, 24 outputs
    AUDIOBUS3@multichannel: 24 inputs and only 4 output

    Please update Drambo standalone outs to 24. (btw Cubasis etc all have 24 in out)
    Anyway great to see such quick and great update like today.

  • @sigma79 said:

    @xor said:

    @sigma79 said:
    Dosent work even on same track, with euclidean notes to trigger zones on drum computer. This is also without midi.

    Is this what you’re trying to do?

    No xor. Multi out Drum computer.

    Thanks

    You’re adjusting the sequencer of the muted channel, what do you expect to happen?

  • @xor said:

    @sigma79 said:

    @xor said:

    @sigma79 said:
    Dosent work even on same track, with euclidean notes to trigger zones on drum computer. This is also without midi.

    Is this what you’re trying to do?

    No xor. Multi out Drum computer.

    Thanks

    You’re adjusting the sequencer of the muted channel, what do you expect to happen?

    Its affecting the drum track on the other channel.

  • @0tolerance4silence said:
    hybrid fun :)

    Wow man. That sounds really good 💪🏼

  • xorxor
    edited April 2021

    @xor said:

    @sigma79 said:

    @xor said:

    @sigma79 said:
    Dosent work even on same track, with euclidean notes to trigger zones on drum computer. This is also without midi.

    Is this what you’re trying to do?

    No xor. Multi out Drum computer.

    Thanks

    You’re adjusting the sequencer of the muted channel, what do you expect to happen?

    What about Drambo and multi-out DrumComputer are you attempting that this doesn’t show?

  • @xor said:

    @xor said:

    @sigma79 said:

    @xor said:

    @sigma79 said:
    Dosent work even on same track, with euclidean notes to trigger zones on drum computer. This is also without midi.

    Is this what you’re trying to do?

    No xor. Multi out Drum computer.

    Thanks

    You’re adjusting the sequencer of the muted channel, what do you expect to happen?

    What about Drambo and multi-out DrumComputer are you attempting that this doesn’t show?

    What do you mean xor. Just sequence drum computer multiout. Turn down a channel then tweak that channel. It will effect other channel.

  • @Lorichs said:

    @0tolerance4silence said:
    hybrid fun :)

    Wow man. That sounds really good 💪🏼

    Yea that's really solid

  • @sigma79 said:

    @coolout said:

    @0tolerance4silence said:

    @sigma79 said:
    Anyway for Drambo to sequence a volca modular? Dont think so. Zoom u44/faderfox pc12.

    You would need dc coupled interface for that. You may get a ‘gate’ signal through your interface, which could be used to sync/trigger volca, but for CV you’ll need a dc coupled interface.

    Every iOS device has 2 CV outputs through the built-in headphone out or an Apple lightning to headphone adapter. Been that way for years. The headphone jack is DC-coupled. All you need is a TRRS to dual mono TS adapter. I've run CV from LFO apps and modules in Mirack to my little Moog Werkstatt on everything from iphone 5 to a 2020 ipad.

    So I could sequence a Volca modular with Drambo? What would I gain instead of volca modular sequencer?

    Thanks.

    I don't own a Volca Modular, so I'm not exactly sure how external gate signals work within it's "west coast" design or how Drambo compares to it's internal sequencer. However just looking at the layout of Volca Modular, the CV block could be patched anywhere, so essentially you could use the ipad as a way of expanding the Volca with new modules, like adding additional modulation with LFOs.

  • @sigma79 I was able to reproduce what you described with DrumComputer and a different MIDI sequencer, so there seems to be something odd on their side and not with Drambo. Incidentally, I was able to reproduce this with the regular Drambo sequencer and playing notes in the AUM keyboard as well.

    Separately (though it doesn't have to do with this issue), I saw that you put a MIDI mixer to connect the output of both euclidean sequencers; this is unnecessary, because the euclidean sequencer has an input (like a MIDI thru), so you just need to connect your MIDI output module to the last one. With a MIDI mixer you'd be generating duplicate events which may cause other problems.

  • Can anyone tell me how to access presets for MYNTH in drambo?
    I can’t locate a preset browser for it

  • @reasOne said:
    Can anyone tell me how to access presets for MYNTH in drambo?
    I can’t locate a preset browser for it

    The MYNTH UI seems to have its issues indeed...

  • coolout. Thanks will look into it.

    NoiseFloored. Thanks. Definately drum computer.

    xor and everyone. Cheers for trying.

    Beepstreet. Cheers for update. Filters are good. Didnt have filters apart from a dj filter which is fuzzy. Your filters are worthy of a controller. That make their own song.

  • @NoiseFloored said:
    @sigma79 I was able to reproduce what you described with DrumComputer and a different MIDI sequencer, so there seems to be something odd on their side and not with Drambo. Incidentally, I was able to reproduce this with the regular Drambo sequencer and playing notes in the AUM keyboard as well.

    Separately (though it doesn't have to do with this issue), I saw that you put a MIDI mixer to connect the output of both euclidean sequencers; this is unnecessary, because the euclidean sequencer has an input (like a MIDI thru), so you just need to connect your MIDI output module to the last one. With a MIDI mixer you'd be generating duplicate events which may cause other problems.

    Probably wont work but if theres ever a fix. Turn off midi out in drum computer. I messaged the dev. They either didnt understand question or possibly suggesting ( maybe ) an un-fixable feed back. I did switch off midi out.

  • This has been asked. Sampling wise. I sample via flexi sampler to maybe create more drum kits ( volca drum maybe etc ). Then edit start point. Save. Dosent save start point.

  • edited April 2021

    @0tolerance4silence said:

    @szczyp said:
    Drambo@multichannel on RME OCTAMIC XTC: 24 inputs (by MADI), only 4 outputs:(
    AUM@multichannel the same interface : 24 inputs, 24 outputs
    AUDIOBUS3@multichannel: 24 inputs and only 4 output

    Please update Drambo standalone outs to 24. (btw Cubasis etc all have 24 in out)
    Anyway great to see such quick and great update like today.

    I’m using 12 outputs out of available 20 on my 18i20.
    Haven’t tested with AB3, but if you haven’t been able to resolve the issue, drop some more details here or on beepstreet forum.

    Thanks for interesting in.

    from https://www.rme-audio.de/downloads/octamicxtc_e.pdf page 52:

    "When connected to an iPad, the analog input 1 works with mono apps, inputs 1 and 2 with ste- reo apps (both dual mono and stereo), and up to 8 inputs with multi-channel applications like MultiTrack DAW and Music Studio. Garage Band supports all inputs, but only two at a time. Auria and Cubasis can record all 24 inputs simultaneously.
    Playback will use analog outputs 1 and 2, or even more channels if the app supports such op- eration, like Auria and Cubasis, which allow to use all 24 output channels of the XTC.
    "
    From my observation:
    If I do proper power cycle on all devices (especially USB hubs) I can get
    all 24 in 24 out from AUM, and auria cubasis.

    No problem with 24 inputs in Drambo standalone or in AUDIOBUS, but
    outputs are limited to 4 mono. At now I use AUMm as host.

    AND second topic: CPU usage on iPad Pro 4-th 64samples buffer 48kHz:
    I sequence hardware synths, samplers in AUM from many ATOMPIANOROLL2 (gate mode) which is MIDI remote triggered by hardware sequencer ensoniq SD-1 or pyramid.

    I like piano roll view so I used ATOM and LK. (Didn't find in LK "gate" mode so at this moment I used PIANOROLL2.)

    But 8 columns MIDI in AUM with 3 instances of PIANOROLL2 is ~65% CPU usage.

    Adding DRAMBO stereo and Virtual AND plus next 4 instances of ATOMPIANOROLL2 is CPU kill on my iPad.

    During building the song, I find iPad more and more unstable. Yes it is the problem.

    Many times AUDIOBUS3 in background drop connection to AUM (no MIDICLOCK slave then), and overall........ guys,
    I love to hear DRAMBO, and many more plugins at one, or at least "unlimited" MIDI tracks.... no, it is not now. Maybe Mac M1 cpu, etc.....

    Or use ATOM as recorder editor and then sending files via memory card to hardware sequence and forget about modularity of sequencers......

    Probably you know what I mean.
    How are you managing bigger sessions MIDI on your setups with iPad?

    (yes I have BM3, Cubasis3, Zenbeats and more, but still AUM and modularity is more fun for me)

    nostalgia//// OK time to start a day

  • I don’t have any answers, but just wanted to say thanks for giving me some new ideas with the Drum Computer sequenced by some Euclidean sequencers thing! That looks fun!

  • edited April 2021

    Need to find a way to edit samples. Think transposing samples via keyboard might be better than tweaking knobs and you can just add effects anyway. Gonna add 5 more Euclidean just for drums + sounds. 12 euclidean drums and maybe more for synths but synths can also be normal.

    Sampling fixed. Now for sampling.

  • @0tolerance4silence said:

    @szczyp said:
    Drambo@multichannel on RME OCTAMIC XTC: 24 inputs (by MADI), only 4 outputs:(
    AUM@multichannel the same interface : 24 inputs, 24 outputs
    AUDIOBUS3@multichannel: 24 inputs and only 4 output

    Please update Drambo standalone outs to 24. (btw Cubasis etc all have 24 in out)
    Anyway great to see such quick and great update like today.

    I’m using 12 outputs out of available 20 on my 18i20.
    Haven’t tested with AB3, but if you haven’t been able to resolve the issue, drop some more details here or on beepstreet forum.

    I also only have 2 of my 8 outputs in Drambo although 8 are available in AUM

  • Is there a way to create more than 8 multi outs, without having to add another Drambo with just 5 multi outs? Kind of makes the setup bad. Another sequencer overlay etc. Less screen space. Confusion.

    You can add more tracks in Drambo but theres no more ext out past 8.

  • @0tolerance4silence said:

    @sigma79 said:
    Is there a way to create more than 8 multi outs, without having to add another Drambo with just 5 multi outs? Kind of makes the setup bad. Another sequencer overlay etc. Less screen space. Confusion.

    You can add more tracks in Drambo but theres no more ext out past 8.

    No, there is no way to add additional ‘output bus’. At least not currently :)

    Is that aum or Drambo? If Drambo upgraded would aum still only have 8?

    Shame. Iv always found a way to map controllers. Wont be possible. I kind of lose 5 euclidean tracks.

  • @sigma79 said:

    @0tolerance4silence said:

    @sigma79 said:
    Is there a way to create more than 8 multi outs, without having to add another Drambo with just 5 multi outs? Kind of makes the setup bad. Another sequencer overlay etc. Less screen space. Confusion.

    You can add more tracks in Drambo but theres no more ext out past 8.

    No, there is no way to add additional ‘output bus’. At least not currently :)

    Is that aum or Drambo? If Drambo upgraded would aum still only have 8?

    Shame. Iv always found a way to map controllers. Wont be possible. I kind of lose 5 euclidean tracks.

    It's the way Drambo is designed. The plugin developer decides how many outputs to provide. miRack is the only one I know of that has more than eight outputs.

    Why do you need so many audio outputs? Do you really need each and every audio output on its own channel in AUM?? Unless you're adding FX on every channel, there's little reason not to group channels into a single output.

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