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Ableton Link for iOS

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  • SebastianSebastian

    @Munibeast said:
    It all sounds very promising. Just the fact it seems to need a wifi network for it to work looks like a bit of a problem for certain live situations with only iOS devices.

    AdHoc networks are are one way to solve it. I don't think Bluetooth has been ruled out as a future option.

  • HmtxHmtx

    @Sebastian said:
    We're going to release an updated Audiobus SDK that includes a feature that enables Link in all apps that are connected to Audiobus.

    The Audiobus team instanty brings us all to tears of joy.

  • CodingCodCodingCod

    @Sebastian Out of curiosity, will the Spectacular sync engine---which I think is based on MIDI clock---also work with Link?

    I've been pondering what the most wide-ranging and effective way of implementing clock sync within LoopTree is. I'm wondering if the Spectacular sync engine will be a neat one-stop-shop :)

  • SebastianSebastian

    @CodingCod said:
    @Sebastian Out of curiosity, will the Spectacular sync engine---which I think is based on MIDI clock---also work with Link?

    I've been pondering what the most wide-ranging and effective way of implementing clock sync within LoopTree is. I'm wondering if the Spectacular sync engine will be a neat one-stop-shop :)

    Please wait for an announcement about that in a week or so. We didn't want to confuse users and devs by talking about two things involving sync today.

  • CodingCodCodingCod

    @Sebastian sure :)

  • mrufino1mrufino1

    I would imagine that a router could be used too, the network isn't needed for Internet, just connecting devices.

  • AphexAphex

    Cool, i recently start to use Live bought a Push and now this, is what i need.
    Thanx Sebastian and team.

  • TarekithTarekith

    Ableton knows people want this over wires and not air too, so who knows where this might go eventually ;)

  • asnorasnor
    edited November 2015

    @Sebastian said:
    2. We're going to release an updated Audiobus SDK that includes a feature that enables Link in all apps that are connected to Audiobus. That means no configuration for users at all. Even if they don't know what Link is, where to find its preferences pane in connected apps etc., everything will be synced with it.
    It's like Background Audio already being turned on when you use Audiobus.
    We're also going to show compatibility with Link in the compatible apps directory, you will be able to be notified of new Link enabled apps and you can filter for that and see the link status in Audiobus.

    yay!

    What sort of timeframe are we looking at for this?

  • mgmg4871mgmg4871

    Will Ad Hoc networks work with this?

  • SebastianSebastian

    @mgmg4871 said:
    Will Ad Hoc networks work with this?

    I haven't tested it yet but to my knowledge they should.

  • SebastianSebastian

    @asnor said:

    @Sebastian said:
    2. We're going to release an updated Audiobus SDK that includes a feature that enables Link in all apps that are connected to Audiobus. That means no configuration for users at all. Even if they don't know what Link is, where to find its preferences pane in connected apps etc., everything will be synced with it.
    It's like Background Audio already being turned on when you use Audiobus.
    We're also going to show compatibility with Link in the compatible apps directory, you will be able to be notified of new Link enabled apps and you can filter for that and see the link status in Audiobus.

    yay!

    What sort of timeframe are we looking at for this?

    After consulting with Ableton the only thing I can say is: soon.

  • o_imsengo_imseng

    This is such a great development. My virtual musical enviroment comes together really close, Ableton becoming the hub of it all with my rewired Reason Rack, my plugins and now perfectly synced iOS world :)

  • Musikman4ChristMusikman4Christ

    I hope this works with Rock Drum Machine. That'll be awesome!

  • mgmg4871mgmg4871
    edited November 2015

    I haven't tested it yet but to my knowledge they should.

    @Sebastion Thanks.

  • SeangarlandSeangarland

    Any minimum iOS system (iOS 9?) requirement for Link?

  • asnorasnor

    @Sebastian said:

    @asnor said:

    What sort of timeframe are we looking at for this?

    After consulting with Ableton the only thing I can say is: soon.

    This is exciting. Thanks!

  • ecamburnecamburn

    I'm excited about Link, but also excited about the prospect that Ableton is paying attention to mobile music making. I hope this is just the tip of the iceberg and that they're also making Live 10 touch friendly and continuing down the path of ios/computer integration like the Korg Gadget partnership.

  • Simon_AcetoneSimon_Acetone

    I've just had one of the worst weeks of my life but this news has definitely cheered me up a bit!!

  • SamuSamu

    It's quite funny really, because when I look thru the list of apps on the Ableton Link page I can also spot iMPC Pro, hopefully this also means that at some point in the future it will also get AB support as it would save them (Retronyms) some coding time if I 'read correctly between the lines' that the new AB SDK will have Link support built in :)

  • SebastianSebastian
    edited November 2015

    @Samu said:
    It's quite funny really, because when I look thru the list of apps on the Ableton Link page I can also spot iMPC Pro, hopefully this also means that at some point in the future it will also get AB support as it would save them (Retronyms) some coding time if I 'read correctly between the lines' that the new AB SDK will have Link support built in :)

    The new Audiobus SDK will not have Link support built in. I know this might be a little confusing. Ableton manages Link and the Link SDK. But there will be a new Audiobus SDK that allows the Audiobus app to turn on Link in all apps that are connected to Audiobus. Think of it like Background audio that is enabled automatically while being connected to Audiobus.

    We're also going to include an 'Ableton Link' badge for compatible apps on our compatible apps list so you can search for/be notified about newly Ableton Link compatible apps.
    How many more times can I say Ableton Link in this, I wonder. Ableton Link, Ableton Link.
    Link Link Link...

    Seriously though, I'm really looking forward to this.

  • MichaelLawrenceMichaelLawrence

    I have goosebumps on my goosebumps! lol

    @Sebastian said:
    The SDK is not public yet but yes, this is different and it's the solution for sync on iOS we've all been waiting for

  • blanksmaidenblanksmaiden

    this is very dank

  • benkamenbenkamen

    I've got it working with Patterning, and yes, it's awesome.

  • bsantorobsantoro

    @Sebastian, Does Apple know about this? How would this affect AU development? Does this help keep iOS as the platform of choice for mobile music making?

  • CarnbotCarnbot

    Here it is with Elastic Drums, that looks tight :)

  • SebastianSebastian
    edited November 2015

    @bsantoro said:
    @Sebastian, Does Apple know about this? How would this affect AU development? Does this help keep iOS as the platform of choice for mobile music making?

    I don't know. I don't know (probably doesn't have any impact). Yes.

  • WillWill

    @mrufino1 said:
    I would imagine that a router could be used too, the network isn't needed for Internet, just connecting devices.

    Maybe we'll see an piece of Ableton branded ad hoc network hardware. Or maybe Push 2.1 gets a wifi router built in?

  • TarekithTarekith

    No to number one, doubtful for number two. Ableton said they only ever want to make one piece of hardware, Push.

  • WillWill
    edited November 2015

    What a total coup it was for Ableton to get the AB team on board in terms of iOS user and developer adoption.

    @Sebastian said:
    But there will be a new Audiobus SDK that allows the Audiobus app to turn on Link in all apps that are connected to Audiobus. Think of it like Background audio that is enabled automatically while being connected to Audiobus.

    Do you envision this as the sort of thing that users can control? Like, do you imagine AB apps with the new SDK are going to add a "Enable AB->Ableton Link Session" option like they generally do for background audio? Or an "it just works" feature?

    Can you talk about....

    1. How/if the equivalent of MIDI's Song Position Pointer and Start/Continue works?
    2. Since any app can set the tempo, is it possible to disallow certain apps from setting the tempo? Like, setting a given app as a slave?
    3. If you heard any rumors have hardware adoption? Microwaves have wifi so we know it's cheap and Korg was there...
    4. Battery drain on backgrounded apps that you forgot were there but are possibly still connected to the Link session (and stopped)

    Or if my mind is too 1987 and none of this matters in this brave new world?

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